What are your thoughts on alcohol?

[CataractSurgeon]

I'm nine months into my sobriety today guys and it comes with a heavy heart with the passing of my brother who I never got a chance to meet due to his alcoholism.

He died from an accident from being drunk. I feel like I'm part of the reason for his despair since he was not at peace with my existence. He never wanted to meet me since he felt I was part of the reason the family split up.

This is the kind of stuff that makes therapists heads spin. I've really leaned on cannabis throughout this time growing high potency strains and finding the most efficient means of consuming my medicine. I haven't partaken in almost a year and am having a hard time letting go. I'm at the verge of just saying fuck it and hit the gvg already preloaded and see what hyperspace had in store for me. Love you guys, take care of the ones you love

I’ve found opiates, alcohol, and even cannabis to be such dead ends - at least Dimitri makes us work our asses off and leaves no marks…

 

[Thierr7]

Hi Transform , I haven't seen your message . Thanks for the tip , i have to try that !

@Transform . I'm taking Lion's Mane for about a month and i feel really good , i'm suffering much less from my feet and i take B,C and D vitamins as well . Plenty of ppl are ill with a kind of flu around here and i didn't catch anything so far ! The great thing is ; my hands were getting very cold every winter and did'nt react as they used to , since i'm a musician , i was really worried abt that ... i thought that was diabete and aging , i don't believe how better i am now , my hands are back as they used to and i can play my ass off again ! That's amazing . Thanks a lot for the great tip , seems like nature can really cure much better than plenty of prescribed medications ... I've read that Lion's Mane is also very good for brain transmitters , i do feel much more alert as well . Thanks again !

 

[Transform]

@Transform . I'm taking Lion's Mane for about a month and i feel really good , i'm suffering much less from my feet and i take B,C and D vitamins as well . Plenty of ppl are ill with a kind of flu around here and i didn't catch anything so far ! The great thing is ; my hands were getting very cold every winter and did'nt react as they used to , since i'm a musician , i was really worried abt that ... i thought that was diabete and aging , i don't believe how better i am now , my hands are back as they used to and i can play my ass off again ! That's amazing . Thanks a lot for the great tip , seems like nature can really cure much better than plenty of prescribed medications ... I've read that Lion's Mane is also very good for brain transmitters , i do feel much more alert as well . Thanks again !

Hawthorn is another one that's very good for circulation - I like to use both the flowering shoots for tea, plus (ironically, given the thread) a tincture made from the berries. The extra blood flow is good for the brain, and hawthorn's effects really support the heart as well as vascular integrity, based on traditional usage.

Or so they say, not medical advice.

 

[ommani]

Hawthorn is another one that's very good for circulation - I like to use both the flowering shoots for tea, plus (ironically, given the thread) a tincture made from the berries. The extra blood flow is good for the brain, and hawthorn's effects really support the heart as well as vascular integrity, based on traditional usage.

Or so they say, not medical advice.

I add hawthorn berries to my tea blend on a daily basis, and have multiple cups a day.

The full recipe per cup of tea is: 1/2tsp guayusa, 1/8tsp black tea, 1/8tsp mistletoe, 1/2tsp hawthorn berries, 1/2tsp hibiscus, 1/4tsp elderberries

Shoutout to @dithyramb for putting mistletoe on my radar, and to @BundleflowerPower for doing the same with hawthorn berries and I think also hibiscus.

 

[The Kraken]

even cannabis

You ain't doing something right.

 

[ommani]

You ain't doing something right.

Sensitivity to weed is so variable, and as with alcohol, it’s common for people to overuse it. Less is more, IME, both in terms of the total amount of THC consumed, along with the amount of THC per hit/dose. Switching from smoking to vaporizing, along with mixing the weed with both CBD and CBG containing hemp has made a world of difference for me.

One or two hits is typically all I need, and I find it really helpful in bringing synergy/coherence to the cornucopia of medicinal herbs and mushrooms that I consume on a daily basis. To me, it kinda feels like the glue that binds all the different herbs together, or like the base of the soup that all the different ingredients get absorbed into. Conversely, when taking full doses of plant medicine/psychedelics, I definitely prefer to have weed in the background, if at all.

As for alcohol, I’ve been holding steady at keeping it to a minimum, which feels best for me. I had an IPA with dinner two weekends ago, which was enjoyable, yet I know from experience that turning that enjoyment into a habit is not conducive to my wellbeing. I especially get the feeling that alcohol is incongruent with the medicinal aliveness and cleansing energy of rue and caapi, which is the course that feels most aligned for me.

 

[Thierr7]

A big thanks to you guys , great community !

 

[TransistorBass]

My business is Alcohol based so you'd think I drink a load as its free for me to drink.
From one thing or another I now only drink about once a month, I find my guts thank me for it, though i still enjoy what i drink.
Since starting Cannabis for Nerve pain its really helped remove the booze from my diet, and I mostly find i prefer weed effects without alcohol, though that said if I slap on some old school acid trance after a few drinks and a few hits of weed I could dance all night.

Overall, albeit socially acceptable, alcohol is a poison and should be avoided on a regular basis. I think kids these days know its bad for them so choose less harming drugs vis the black market. So in an idea world all drugs would be legal, regulated and taxed so the kids know what they are taking is safe.

 

[Voidmatrix]

alcohol is a poison

It's insidious. Your body recognizes it as a poison and so it and any nutrients, in the case carbs, get shuttled to the liver so the body can rid itself of the alcohol. Since the nutrients go with the alcohol when it's in the system, a lot of what isn't eliminated is stored in fat.

What's worse, when you drink while you eat, a lot of the nutrient density of the food is also not adequately utilized because the body is prioritizing clearing the system of the toxins.

One love

 

[Transform]

if I slap on some old school acid trance after a few drinks and a few hits of weed I could dance all night.

Please feel free to share your favourites somewhere over in the music section

 

[JungleGhost]

It sucks, gives me acid reflux and headache...
Good 4 cleaning..

 

[LoveBlanket]

It's an amazing solvent , so easy to purge, basically almost non toxic even is not 100% professionally purged
I love making Cannabis Extracts using Ethanols and cleaning my glass !

As a drug, I'd say its mediocre, sure its a downer so anxiety and bad trip are kind impossible unless you drink liters but damn compared to any other downer like Opiates, BHB or even Xanax, alcohol is the wort, it makes me feel dirty in my body, makes me emotional for nothing, its like all the negatives from Xanax without the precise clinical anti exited effect

Plus I've never had an alcohol dependence, but considering how short lasting are the effects you must drink basically every hour to avoid the shakes ? Sounds like hell

I've used Xanax or Morphine it I had too intense or stimulating of a trip but I bet alcohol would just worsen the physical side effects

 

[1Starway7]

The government leagalized it so they can controll you easier.... is leagle because it makes you into a temporary zombie.. ...it shrinks your brain and.. make some violent... [ it sucks] its a downer! dont touch it.......
using it long enough ... it kills by liver failyer..
fire water suplyed by greedy men..... almost destroyed the native americans...

its only usefull as a solvent or anticeptic...

 

[LoveBlanket]

The government leagalized it so they can controll you easier.... is leagle because it makes you into a temporary zombie

Hi, I'm sorry but to be fully honest I'm disagree about this affirmation
I mean dont get me wrong, our leaders dont want our spiritual well being I think for sure and yeah alcohol makes people stupid and makes some people violent .

But I think the reason its legal is not because it helps to control people, I don't think there is any deliberate desire to control through alcohol use .
Though I think alcohol is legal because the effects dont make you question anything, it just numbs you and gives you a false sense of euphoria and confidence

Actually, Benzodiazepines, Opiates and all those destructive sedatives are legal too, though the medical system, I think for the exact same reasons, no questions , pure numb, kills any drive for deep change the opposite of deep psychedelics

Id say if there is one class of drug that is clearly there for control purposes, it's Antipsychotics , the explicit goal is to shut down a person's neuronal system because they think too much outside of the box ..... that's more of a societal control drug than alcohol

Alcohol (and to a lesser extend benzos and opiates) are more like a chemical falsely liberating outlet while they don't actually push to change anything really long term

 

[1Starway7]

Hi, I'm sorry but to be fully honest I'm disagree about this affirmation
I mean dont get me wrong, our leaders dont want our spiritual well being I think for sure and yeah alcohol makes people stupid and makes some people violent .

But I think the reason its legal is not because it helps to control people, I don't think there is any deliberate desire to control through alcohol use .
Though I think alcohol is legal because the effects dont make you question anything, it just numbs you and gives you a false sense of euphoria and confidence

Actually, Benzodiazepines, Opiates and all those destructive sedatives are legal too, though the medical system, I think for the exact same reasons, no questions , pure numb, kills any drive for deep change the opposite of deep psychedelics

Id say if there is one class of drug that is clearly there for control purposes, it's Antipsychotics , the explicit goal is to shut down a person's neuronal system because they think too much outside of the box ..... that's more of a societal control drug than alcohol

Alcohol (and to a lesser extend benzos and opiates) are more like a chemical falsely liberating outlet while they don't actually push to change anything really long term

my response was sort of in humor ...
in my generation the alcoholics called us hippys..and street trash]....but in reality.... they were no better than us ..back then .. they were... [the juciers].. and we were


The [Heads]..LSD heads!!.....and proud of it!.... proud of our music... and our culture.... ......we had diferent opinions of reality......and different morals...

[[but in reality.... the government has always alowed the use of BOOZ!...[for some reason]??. .thats why we hippys called it ....[the government drug]...... i never cared for it... I have friends that
are dead now...because of their love for booz...anyone who can get away from booze is on the right path...
just my opinion..

 

[Transform]

the government has always alowed the use of BOOZ!

There was this tiny thing called "the Prohibition"…

 

[1Starway7]

There was this tiny thing called "the Prohibition"…

yes... except for... the Prohibition days..

 

[rkba]

There was this tiny thing called "the Prohibition"…

Is that what caused the Great Depression?

Somewhat tongue in cheek. But also a curious timeline of events.

Followed by Executive Order 6102.

Followed by the Gold Reserve Act, the Communications Act, the Securities Exchange Act, the National Housing Act, the National Firearms Act, and the Rules Enabling Act.

Who knows.

 

[Transform]

Is that what caused the Great Depression?

Somewhat tongue in cheek. But also a curious timeline of events.

Followed by Executive Order 6102.

Followed by the Gold Reserve Act, the Communications Act, the Securities Exchange Act, the National Housing Act, the National Firearms Act, and the Rules Enabling Act.

Who knows.

Those sound like policies that a bunch of alcoholics would come up with

 

[hugfortysix]

i have a few thoughts on alcohol. I think it depends on the individual and how they relate to a particular drug. I have been bought up in an alcoholic environment , my dad sat me on his knee when i was 5 years old and fed me a half pint of bitter. My sister used to get me pissed when i was 12 years old just cos it was something you did back then. But i have never had a problem with being fixated with alcohol. Opiate yes, but alcohol no. And i am wondering whether it is less about blaming the nefariousnesness of a drug and more about the what is in the individual and what makes them work in such a way with said drug.
In defence of aclohol, i will give this argument...I am quoting here someone elses words but they connected with me greatly after having travelled a similar path...

"Before I moved to France, I started learning French. I was keen, determined, trying to do the right thing. And then, in one particular lesson, my teacher looked at me and said, “Stuart, you may never be fluent.” I was offended. Properly offended. Not because I feared she was right, but because it felt like she was taking something from me before I’d even started. She wasn’t appreciating my effort and commitment.
I even chastised her for it. She was the teacher. She was meant to encourage me. Yet what she said sounded like a defeatist prophecy.
But I didn’t understand what she meant.
She didn’t mean I’d never learn French. She meant that real fluency - the kind where you can express the full range of who you are with nuance, humour, speed, emotion, cultural reference, instinct - is either for the very gifted, or for people who’ve lived inside that language for a very long time.

Because when you move countries, you don’t just swap geography. You become reliant on a culture you’re behind in from the get-go. You don’t have the same instincts. You can’t connect the dots in the same way. You miss the tiny cues. The jokes land half a second late. The confidence you had back home doesn’t travel neatly in your suitcase. I know how to solve problems. I know how to make things happen. It’s like running on home turf."

Now i was the same. I spent 10 years of my life always being 30 seconds behind a conversation when i was with a group of people who were not speaking the language of my mother toungue. I was not the same sharp witted funny guy that i could have been when living in my birth country. This situation is both frustrating and humbling at the same time.
However alcohol and drinking in bars with locals opened up avenues for me. After a few drinks (don't get slaughtered) i think that communication comes easier. You speak more with your body, you are less held back by how shit your accent and pronunciation may be and you just get on with it. Barriers are broken down and communication comes easier, sometimes just because two people get drunk and speak the international language of talking bollocks to each other.

I found employment on more than one occasion while drinking and i also met my wife while drinking. i have friends that i have met while drunk who dont speak the same mother toungue as me and we love each other and i am afraid, for better or worse it is thanks to the demon alcohol.

The question is not about your thoughts on alcohol but should be more about your thoughts on how you relate to alcohol.