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lorentz5 said:SWIM has never taken DMT but once on lsd, he noticed some peculiar red, box-like things that had tiny heads protruding from their square bodies and small horn-like structures protruding from their heads. They traveled in a group of 5 or 6 and made strange metallic-like noises in movement. They had short rectangular appendages resembling arms and legs. They didn't interact with SWIM but when SWIM was listening to Terrence McKenna's description of DMT-elves as "machine-like," this is what instantly popped into his head.
What do you think? Did SWIM have an encounter with the elves? Or was this something trivial?
SWIM knows it's different for everyone, but if you could summarize what a DMT "elf" or "entity" looks like in a paragraph, how would you do it?
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WSaged said:Jorkest said:i dont know about you guys..but i actually DO see elves...like...skinny dancing acrobatic creatures with the elf hat and everything...they usually dance on what they create throughout the trip
the dancing elves are usually there during one of the funhouse type trips..when they are super excited to see me..usually with cool music playing...and they dance around in front of me as a go through the fun house...and yes elves such as this
My experiences with DMT are just so much more heavy & serious than that...the "entities" I've experienced have never in any way, shape, or form resembled anything human-like, or "elf-like".
For me, it's always a form that is gigantic, multi-colored, geometric & undulating into & out of itself...sometimes it seems as if it's showing off it's infinite power, intelligence & love to me, like a display of what is possible.
Never anything as trivial as dancing & playing...there's work to be done!
At least that's how it has always come across for me.
Like I said, it is different for everyone!
WS

Voidmatrix said:If I'm not mistaken, the term "elf" was popularized by Terence Mckenna when he shared stories about his DMT experiences. He tends to give a caveat of the description just being part of his experience, but then he states it as an externalized fact; "you will see," "you're propelled," etc. It's framed in a second person point of view even though it's first person experience. And it's a bit misleading and impacts people through the power of suggestion, albeit, inadvertently; that's just how he spoke.
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Love him Is this the gate we all end up?fink said:Still have no idea if these experiences are external or from somewhere inside me. Or perhaps inside all of us. Dont think I'll ever be able to explain anything in this life.
Is there a conceptual possibility that we could get behind this and peel maybe through one layer for real and still be sane? 
Tomtegubbe said:Is this the gate we all end up?fink said:Still have no idea if these experiences are external or from somewhere inside me. Or perhaps inside all of us. Dont think I'll ever be able to explain anything in this life.Is there a conceptual possibility that we could get behind this and peel maybe through one layer for real and still be sane?
I just today told the exact same thing to someone.
I find myself going through phases where I strongly believe what's going on in "there" and then regarding them as fantasies. It's an illusion, but what is notfink said:Indeed!
Ever find yourself going through phases of ultimate understanding and then total confusion in a cycle?

jaimito said:lorentz5 said:SWIM has never taken DMT but once on lsd, he noticed some peculiar red, box-like things that had tiny heads protruding from their square bodies and small horn-like structures protruding from their heads. They traveled in a group of 5 or 6 and made strange metallic-like noises in movement. They had short rectangular appendages resembling arms and legs. They didn't interact with SWIM but when SWIM was listening to Terrence McKenna's description of DMT-elves as "machine-like," this is what instantly popped into his head.
What do you think? Did SWIM have an encounter with the elves? Or was this something trivial?
SWIM knows it's different for everyone, but if you could summarize what a DMT "elf" or "entity" looks like in a paragraph, how would you do it?
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WTF is SWIM? You sound so retarded...
WSaged said:Jorkest said:i dont know about you guys..but i actually DO see elves...like...skinny dancing acrobatic creatures with the elf hat and everything...they usually dance on what they create throughout the trip
the dancing elves are usually there during one of the funhouse type trips..when they are super excited to see me..usually with cool music playing...and they dance around in front of me as a go through the fun house...and yes elves such as this
My experiences with DMT are just so much more heavy & serious than that...the "entities" I've experienced have never in any way, shape, or form resembled anything human-like, or "elf-like".
For me, it's always a form that is gigantic, multi-colored, geometric & undulating into & out of itself...sometimes it seems as if it's showing off it's infinite power, intelligence & love to me, like a display of what is possible.
Never anything as trivial as dancing & playing...there's work to be done!
At least that's how it has always come across for me.
Like I said, it is different for everyone!
WS
What en egotistical fuck... That's all I can say.
Great forum I can see.