The Neural said:
The only proper references you provided were in respect to cannabis and its purported toxicity. The rest involved a post made in another forum, a website(!), an online magazine, and foxnews. These are not evidence, they are people with personal experiences who decide to share them, pretty much what you are doing (some of them may have other motives as well, rendering their validity completely dubious). We are looking for actual studies on the rest of your claims, studies like those you found regarding cannabis.
Well, at least you guys are thinking
Now let's see if we can clear up some confusion;
First of all, the fox-news article was provided by Jamie, not by me. I simply affirmed it's relative application based on my personal experience with the plants and what I could confirm their effect to be on me.
Secondly, the link I provided, which was deemed as "bad link" or "bad information" is absolutely false, in my perspective, and the supporting evidence that I provided for the assertion of this fact was the transformation video of that paratrooper.
So, let's take a look at the information in that link again, shall we?
We are made out of energy, not matter. However, this is not something new. The ancient yogis and rishis in India knew this thousands of years ago.
www.lifetrainings.com
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For example Dr Lipton shows that if we interpret things in a positive way, we start living healthier and better quality lives, regardless of the genetic makeup we started with. A new attitude, positive or negative, sends new messages to the cells in our body and can actually reprogram their health and behavior. It can even change cellular structure, turning diseased cells into healthy cells.
Now, if this information is not relevant to the video, and the change in Arthur's state of mind which was clearly expressed as a positive change in his overall health as a whole (he had actual bone problems, and all he did was change his conscious attitude and put forth some due diligence, pushed through some yogic exercises, and was able to literally transform his body, with seemingly nothing more than the right attitude and some elbow grease)
Now, if that link does not support the information in this video, then I honestly don't know what does;
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As far as my link to a website on the nature of depression and anxiety, and some of those psychological problems, I studied all kinds of psychology in college for over 5 years, everything from behavioral psychology to clinical psychology, and I can verify for a fact that information is true and accurate, as well as applicable to a whole slew of individuals that I've come across. This includes everything from military trauma patients (I served in the army for 2+yrs) as well as the general traumas received from simple things from fear, to car accidents, to any host of problems big and small. Again, does this apply to absolutely EVERY trauma out there? I have no idea to tell you the truth, but I can tell you that the knowledge certainly does apply to proper understanding of what trauma is on the whole.
I can also tell you, from my own experience, that I used that very same information to clear out my own depression and traumas, with the aid of about two months worth of ayahuasca sessions, and that understanding, as well as just personal conscious response. I can't find any lasting issues from my past anymore and I also no longer have any kind of depression issues that I can tell (which, by the way, lasted for the majority of my life (almost two decades) and no medication on its own was able to fix (I've tried everything from uppers, downers, mood stabilizers, pot, absolutely everything) Soo, long story short, that information, with the proper understanding and application, can actually help a lot of people, I do not present this lightly. I'm not saying it will fix absolutely every fault in every way, but it is certainly essential to fix quite a lot of people's common psychological problems based on my own personal understanding, and my knowledge of psychology on the whole. As well as my personal and direct experience :roll:
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It's not a difference in perspective, but rather a difference in the methodology of research. When we make claims, we think how much we can generalise them to the population, and the best way to do this is to test these hypotheses a great amount of times, taking all the factors into consideration, and with different individuals. Then we can see some tendencies.
Also, another point that I will bring up which is absolutely vital to this discussion; you guys place SO MUCH importance on medical studies, but you don't even see or realize their limited application. ALL medical studies are studies done on a group of people, and the data extracted is a statistical average, which applies to NO ONE! It only applies to the "average man" which exists nowhere... so individual application of case studies, even medical ones, is limited at best. That's why there's so many conflicting studies out there, because if a study is done on a different group, it is bound to yield different data... yes, certain generalizations can be extrapolated that may yield consistently valid results, but the application of studies on the whole, when it comes to individual experience, is limited at best.
As mentioned before, I work with anabolic substances quite regularly (steroids) basically because I need my own healing benefit from it (patching up old lasting physical injuries from the army) so I've learned quite a bit about their proper medical applications. That said, I started out by looking at medical studies, and even gave some advice to a few friends based on those very same medical studies; "sound" advice, or so I thought. Experience, however, showed something completely different. The truth is that every physiological system is unique to the individual, and a general case study does not always apply to the unique and specific needs of the individual. So, there's no way, even with medical studies, to generalize any kind of common application. The caviat always exists that "this may not work for this specific person". Such is life, yet we do the best we can.
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BrokenChild said:
Think of it like this; I know what I'm saying, and what I'm talking about, because I speak from my experience. Of course, if you had full and direct access into the totality of my experience, you may agree, you may disagree, but at least you would know exactly the perspective from which the statement was formulated, and you may at least see relevant validity in it.
We all have unique experiences. Yet, we cannot generalise it to anyone else besides ourselves; every condition, event, behaviour, approach, manifests itself differently to each and every one of us.
I absolutely agree with this statement, but on the same hand there ARE certain things that we can generalize as a common truth applicable to just about everyone;
For example, excessive dosage of ANYTHING leads to side effects of one sort or another when it comes to drugs; and this is true with just about every drug on the planet. The good doctor can even confirm this from his own experience. If you take 10 tylenols all at once, you're gonna have some problems. The same way, if you take too much DMT all at once, you're also going to have some problems, I don't care who you are (as a general statement). The same for mushrooms, if you eat a pound of them, God help you. These are true generalizations, and are applicable to the human experience on the whole. The same way that if you stick your raw hand in the fire and hold it there long enough, you will get burned; this is an ABSOLUTE truth. Some truths are relative, relative to the individual, but some truths ARE absolute; we need food and water to live, we need to breath air to live... these are things that can be said about humanity as a whole.
I hope that cleared some of it up
