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why do so many dmt users believe in 2012?

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I think that 2012 will happen

...and 2013, 14, 15 and so on.

It will keep on going until the last brain who is conscious of the abstract concept
of time as earth spins in relation to our star divided in into bits like seconds, minutes,
hours, days, weeks and so on withers away.

Or the concept is lost to another concept.

What is a year anyway?

It never ends...it just keeps on spinning.
 
imPsimon said:
I think that 2012 will happen

...and 2013, 14, 15 and so on.

It will keep on going until the last brain who is conscious of the abstract concept
of time as earth spins in relation to our star divided in into bits like seconds, minutes,
hours, days, weeks and so on withers away.

Or the concept is lost to another concept.

What is a year anyway?

It never ends...it just keeps on spinning.

Besides, it´s 2010. Have a happy, happy, happy New Year 2010, dearest fellow traveler.

I´ve got a similar problem. Time for me ceased to exist. And it´s not just a phrase. It´s a fact. Since introduced in to a sacred mysteries of a DMT, I always ask: ,Is still the same year? :lol:

But I wanted to mention another thing. After 2012, we all´ll be travelling in universe, guided and protected by the eternal light of DMT. DMT helps us to prepare to this ,le grand voyage´.

Shalom.
 
Dearest fellow DMT extracteurs, distributors, smokers, in short ,spicers´/travelers, the shit is real.

In the year 2012 our monkey (for we are nothing but a talking apes) body´ll dissolve in dimethyltryptamine and we all ,Men twice times wise´ (yeah, right, haven´t heard a better joke :lol:)´ll be travellin´ in universe.

Any objections?

In every case, farewell to You all, dearest fellows.
 
I think all the myths just feed the minds of people interested in profit, future seeing. It used to feed my mind also, but i found that its really all just BS, much information, only speculation. Many facts twisted into none fact. Like nostradamus, i used to think he was amazing predicting the future, untill i found how none of his predictions are even timed, there just random indirect phrases that eventualy something happens in reality and you can find one phrase and interpret the way you want to make it fit to an event. I know some will disagree, but thats just how i see it, and to me how it is.

And for times changing, big change is always been a big part of humanity, its not odd that there is big change going on, there's never not big change going on, i think thats just what you get with a species evolving in intelligence.

I really hope they figure out life extension before i die, and organ production, i would like to see the future 1000 years froms now, being we survive. Thats why i would hate to be froze to see the future, might not ever get to wake up if we die off, then you just have your life cut shorter. Maybe we should plan to in the future use robots to house our brains, No musscle decay in space travel!!! Just oil up and don't get stiff, grow brains instead of kids, put the new brain in its robot housing. Anything is possible
 
Cheeto said:
Maybe we should plan to in the future use robots to house our brains, No musscle decay in space travel!!! Just oil up and don't get stiff, grow brains instead of kids, put the new brain in its robot housing. Anything is possible

Mother Brain!?!? Sexy=)
 

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I dunno if you can really compare terrences ideas of 2012 to nostradomus...

Two completely different things...

Alot of the 2012 stuff that we hear about these days though yes, I can see where that comparison fits..

Terrence's ideas are misinterpreted by most people as prophecie IMO..I dont think that is what he was getting at at all..and I think that they way many people see him and his ideas today, and thewhole 2012 thing would be his great let-down...he's probly rolling over in his grave..

What he was saying was waayyyy beyond the scope of what these 2012 threads usually get into..

In some ways 2012 is a sort of self fullfullfilling prophecie..thats what it seems to be becomming..people are conciousily creating a part of it...but the most interesting thing for me is the idea that technology is taking us somewhere..and that technology may just be out way out of the technological mess we are already sitting in..

His ideas on language I think have something to do with it as well...but lets not get into that one here..
 
Cheeto said:
...Like nostradamus, i used to think he was amazing predicting the future, untill i found how none of his predictions are even timed, there just random indirect phrases that eventualy something happens in reality and you can find one phrase and interpret the way you want to make it fit to an event.

Exactly. That's all any of this stuff is. The future cannot be foretold.

One time on a very strong mushroom trip, SWIM heard voices from the “mushroom spirit”. SWIM doesn’t really believe in such stuff but thought it would be fun to talk with this manifestation. He asked the “mushroom spirit” about events in the future. The spirit said many things and all of them happened with complete accuracy, but in addition, the spirit said, “the future is not created yet, and can always be altered. I can only give you a prediction based on all the molecules and their current path in the universe. It’s much like a weather report. I can judge the most likely pathway for the molecules to take, but there are forces in the universe that can always alter the course.”
 
69ron said:
Exactly. That's all any of this stuff is. The future cannot be foretold.

One time on a very strong mushroom trip, SWIM heard voices from the “mushroom spirit”. SWIM doesn’t really believe in such stuff but thought it would be fun to talk with this manifestation. He asked the “mushroom spirit” about events in the future. The spirit said many things and all of them happened with complete accuracy, but in addition, the spirit said, “the future is not created yet, and can always be altered. I can only give you a prediction based on all the molecules and their current path in the universe. It’s much like a weather report. I can judge the most likely pathway for the molecules to take, but there are forces in the universe that can always alter the course.”

Wow, where these things somewhat predictable by you yourself, or beyond something you could predict yourself? I'm very interested to know...that could open shut doors back up for me depending on the things predicted.
 
Cheeto, there is no way of knowing. It could have all just been a coincidence in that particular case. SWIM did not ask questions that were impossible to guess.

There is more to it though. It explained in great detail that it existed in many parts of the universe and that its mycelium was its physical manifestation, and that its spirit is a single spirit millions of years old, and like its mycelium, its spirit spanned across the universe. It said it could make very precise calculations because it existed for millions of years as a single entity and has experienced nearly all possible changes in reality. It said that all the predictions it made were simple mathematical predictions based on the current position of all the molecules in the universe, like how whether is predicted, but on a much larger scale. It said it was aware of the position and movement of nearly every molecule that exists in the entire universe and could easily predict the changes in the patterns of the universe, but said it was never 100% accurate. It said there are spiritual forces in the universe that can dramatically alter the path the universe is currently on.

I think SWIM heard these imaginary “mushroom spirit” voices because at the time he was reading work by Terrence McKenna.
 
This Emmeric dude first made a movie about a lizard that grew more than a hundred meters tall as a result of french nuclear tests, and that swum to new york to tear the city apart.

Then he made a movie about climate change, where the sea level rises with 70 metres in one single day leading to a tsunami that hit's new york without destroying it and without flooding the library. Followed by giant hurricane's the size of a continent that freeze everything in a mere second to below polar temperatures.

But in 2012 he manages to actually dwarf all these previous disasters.
Here, as a result of the lining of the planets, the earth's crust imlodes making the entire state of california plumeth into a great big hole.
Fortunately, some smart people manage to build some giant arc's to save mankind. They have these huge ships sitting somewhere near the top of mount everest and they'd manage to calculate exactly that a huge tsunami would engulf the himalaya's and lift these ships of the ground to take it with it to open sea.
And that's how mankind got saved.

In the next movie, a huge squirrel is gonna eat the sun, i suppose.
 
Here's some new to me 2012 information, a prediction made by NASA. I watched a show explaining how even the government is planing on this one being true, building many many underground living areas for the government and rich people. The show suggests that all power will be knocked out, and the government and rich plan on going underground and letting us kill each other off. I know its another conspiracy theory, but they actually are building these underground areas, and they are for the government and rich for 2010-2012, and they do have security, and will not let uninvited people in if chaos breaks out. They could prepare to prevent it from being a big problem some say, but they would rather save themselves and reduce population....some say. Anyone know any futher information on this conspiracy or story??

Heres a NASA article :10mar_stormwarning.htm
 
You can bet they have been planning this for a long time...it's no wonder so many people HATE our governments.

The chaos is not that far fetched..remember new orleans..

This is very depressing.
 
That's an interesting article about solar storms, but I couldn't find the part about the underground bunkers for rich people. Could you enlighten me?

Pokey the Stupid
 
Cheeto said:
Here's some new to me 2012 information, a prediction made by NASA. I watched a show explaining how even the government is planing on this one being true, building many many underground living areas for the government and rich people. The show suggests that all power will be knocked out, and the government and rich plan on going underground and letting us kill each other off. I know its another conspiracy theory, but they actually are building these underground areas, and they are for the government and rich for 2010-2012, and they do have security, and will not let uninvited people in if chaos breaks out. They could prepare to prevent it from being a big problem some say, but they would rather save themselves and reduce population....some say. Anyone know any futher information on this conspiracy or story??

Heres a NASA article :10mar_stormwarning.htm



Lovely article from 2006
Thanks for the heads up.
 
Pokey said:
That's an interesting article about solar storms, but I couldn't find the part about the underground bunkers for rich people. Could you enlighten me?

Pokey the Stupid

Well, i just saw it on a show. But i found something on the bunkers, and an update to the solar storm warning(2009).

Bunker stuff

Solar Storm
 
Hmmm....

She says "some say" and "there are many rumors on the web" an awful lot in that article.....

2012 has become a cottage industry! All kinds of people trying to make a living off it.

Guess we'll all see soon enough. Until then I think I'll keep enjoying each moment like it's my last; never know, it just might be!:d

Pokey the Blissfully Ignorant
 
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