Let me get this straight... This mckenna dude is the one that made the Facebook page and the twitter account under our name? So he is using the name DMT-Nexus to promote his own ideas and thoughts? And when we complain about him stealing our name, he uses the censorship card? Dude... Seriously?
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Why does the nexus feel they can police the internet?
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Well, we still don't know whether it is the same person - he mentioned something about us trying to police the internet but he did not say exactly say exactly what actions of ours are internet policing, right? I see people assuming that he made the facebook and tweeter dmtnexus accounts, but is it really so?Evening Glory said:
So, mckenna dude, you claim that we police the internet, no? Would you like to give us some examples on which cases of policing you accuse us, so that we speak specifically ad not hypothetically on the issue.
Thanks
mckenna- this is shameful behavior brother. you steal the name of a prominent voice of the entheogenic movement to represent you and your deficient beliefs. you steal the name of a community to spout your completely misaligned messages to the world on facebook. if this is knowledgestick, i won't even go into your truly ego-based and DANGEROUS videos on youtube....
basically- i want to, as a moderator of this most righteous site, formally state that you are in no way a part of this community. you do not share our views, our mission, our respect, our attitudes and our CLASS regarding entheogens and DMT. the fact that you go around pretending to be people that are respected (mckenna, the nexus) screams that you have no confidence that you yourself could convince anyone of anything.
you are misguided in everything you stand for in regards to DMT. you are nursing a tremendous ego-complex concerning your 'role' in the coming consciousness. why don't you sit with what you are doing and really think about what kind of impact posing as someone else will honestly have? you are attempting to be the spokesman for a group of people who DO NOT WANT YOU TO SPEAK FOR US. personally, i think you should be banned from this site for your identity-theft and disrespectful behavior that jeopardizes everyone and everything we are working towards.
i hope i made myself clear on the matter.
WITH THE DEEPEST LOVE AND GRATITUDE!!
basically- i want to, as a moderator of this most righteous site, formally state that you are in no way a part of this community. you do not share our views, our mission, our respect, our attitudes and our CLASS regarding entheogens and DMT. the fact that you go around pretending to be people that are respected (mckenna, the nexus) screams that you have no confidence that you yourself could convince anyone of anything.
you are misguided in everything you stand for in regards to DMT. you are nursing a tremendous ego-complex concerning your 'role' in the coming consciousness. why don't you sit with what you are doing and really think about what kind of impact posing as someone else will honestly have? you are attempting to be the spokesman for a group of people who DO NOT WANT YOU TO SPEAK FOR US. personally, i think you should be banned from this site for your identity-theft and disrespectful behavior that jeopardizes everyone and everything we are working towards.
i hope i made myself clear on the matter.
WITH THE DEEPEST LOVE AND GRATITUDE!!
antrocles said:
^^what he said.
Big Inhale
The Enlightend One
This guy is a baffoon. He posts this thread to get everyone rilled up then doesnt even reply back. Hes a TROLL. Thread should be locked.
i locked it, then decided (after discussing with the other mods) that he should have a chance to read all of the opinions of the community he has decided he speaks for.
i encourage any and all dmt-nexus members to speak honestly and plainly about how you feel in this matter. are you at peace with someone representing YOU to the mostly-unprepared world and letting that world know that YOU are all about "distribution" of DMT? you wana join THAT facebook page? one where a deluded person feels comfortable STEALING THE IDENTITY of an established community and using it as a platform to rant about damn-near everything we as a community are OPPOSED TO?
i am uncomfortable as it is using a screen name and avatar...but at least it is there to represent me and only me. to take the very name of dmt-nexus, INCLUDING a screen shot of our homepage, and go online making post after post of everything that has no alignment with our mission or values.... it's really juvenile and demonstrative of an ego gone wild.
there is only one dmt-nexus. if you really believe you know what's best for humanity and DMT- start your own site. not only will you be able to post your beliefs without anyone being upset, you will also distance yourself from this community which is quite possibly the best thing for all involved.
L&G
i encourage any and all dmt-nexus members to speak honestly and plainly about how you feel in this matter. are you at peace with someone representing YOU to the mostly-unprepared world and letting that world know that YOU are all about "distribution" of DMT? you wana join THAT facebook page? one where a deluded person feels comfortable STEALING THE IDENTITY of an established community and using it as a platform to rant about damn-near everything we as a community are OPPOSED TO?
i am uncomfortable as it is using a screen name and avatar...but at least it is there to represent me and only me. to take the very name of dmt-nexus, INCLUDING a screen shot of our homepage, and go online making post after post of everything that has no alignment with our mission or values.... it's really juvenile and demonstrative of an ego gone wild.
there is only one dmt-nexus. if you really believe you know what's best for humanity and DMT- start your own site. not only will you be able to post your beliefs without anyone being upset, you will also distance yourself from this community which is quite possibly the best thing for all involved.
L&G
While you may feel your motives are honorable, as a community, most here believe this is the wrong direction to take in spreading the word. No one here thinks DMT should be secret. If we did, the Nexus wouldn't exist!
Anyone interested in DMT can discover this site with a simple google search. Leave the discovering to those who are seeking. DMT is not a molecule to stumble upon, which is exactly what will happen on facebook.
This is the same reason selling is taboo here. Too many people stumbling upon DMT and enough bad experiences and very unfriendly eyes will be looking upon this site and spice. This is not the attention we want.
In the end, yes, you are free to do what you want. Spread the word as much as you want. But you are not the spokesman for this community. Rather, you seem to be attracting much distaste from the members here.
As it has been stated numerous times, using the name DMT-nexus is completely unacceptable. There is no defense to allow the use of an identity that is not yours.
Anyone interested in DMT can discover this site with a simple google search. Leave the discovering to those who are seeking. DMT is not a molecule to stumble upon, which is exactly what will happen on facebook.
This is the same reason selling is taboo here. Too many people stumbling upon DMT and enough bad experiences and very unfriendly eyes will be looking upon this site and spice. This is not the attention we want.
In the end, yes, you are free to do what you want. Spread the word as much as you want. But you are not the spokesman for this community. Rather, you seem to be attracting much distaste from the members here.
As it has been stated numerous times, using the name DMT-nexus is completely unacceptable. There is no defense to allow the use of an identity that is not yours.
As its been said over and over and over, START YOUR OWN SITE, stop using our name! If you feel you can spread the knowledge in a better way, go ahead, but stop pretending like you speak for us.. That only points out to your own non-ethical behaviour. Not to mention its copyright violation...
Also as it has been said over and over, if we felt the knowledge shouldnt be spread, the Nexus wouldnt exist openly as it does. Did you notice it is an open webpage, that anyone can enter and read? You really make no sense....
Also as it has been said over and over, if we felt the knowledge shouldnt be spread, the Nexus wouldnt exist openly as it does. Did you notice it is an open webpage, that anyone can enter and read? You really make no sense....
professional namesquatters make a living by hijacking names and using them, sometimes in misleading ways, in other domains or websites. Not illegal, either, as far as I know. I'd say best just to ignore it, perhaps block him out of our REAL site, and send a note to the Facebook and Twitter gods that somebody is misleading their members about us. Amen.
Even Winnie the Pooh has many non-official sights on places like MySpace, and some even claim to be “official”. This kind of thing is commonplace. I wouldn't think too much of it.
Freedom to spread information is something we should all embrace. People will figure out on their own that THIS site is the real deal and the others are just counterfeit.
Freedom to spread information is something we should all embrace. People will figure out on their own that THIS site is the real deal and the others are just counterfeit.
TrustLoveMan
Rising Star
Eden said:
I love this forum for then sheer fact that almost everyone is respected. Anyone who seeks higher knowledge in psychedelics is going to be respected by me. DMT is a subject that is not understood entirely and I would invite any expansion of thought.
That being said, If you feel that your ideas are superior then you should invest in your own forum. Anyone who spreads knowledge is a hero in my book. But, if you are using the name of dmt-nexus in your own ventures, then you need to re-evaluate how you go about teaching.
If you want to show people your philosophy you should try to invest in your own website. I've learned a great deal from this forum. But, I've also learn a lot from the KKK website. I'm not saying that this website is racist, but if you want people to understand you, you need to find your own way.
I believe everyone has the freedom to speak their mind, but if you find the ideas of this forum to be fascist or whatever, you need to start you own community. I really wish you would respond to the people on this forum because I want you to see where we are coming from. DMT and my subconscious has taught me that knowledge is power. I hope that one day you will find that the nexus is full of compassionate people who can teach you many things. Please, respond to these posts. I know that since I've been on this website I've learned many things. I wish that you would seek out the information I have already learned.
Phantastica
Rising Star
@mckenna: i understand that your end goal of spreading the knowledge about DMT is a worthy one, but you have chosen the worst path to this endeavor. by hijacking the nexus name; going against the members' ethics, you claim to be one of; and acting recklessly, you are worsening the situation that is ALREADY SO DELICATE. the government officials are just waiting to find excuses to ban psychedelics, and your behavior will result in immature use of the substance by an immature audience, thus acting against the same goal we share - to decriminalize these substances. And facebook is the worst worst worst decision ever! is it really that hard to understand that one case of an immature use can make mimosa illegal, thus hurting everyone.
p.s. Please reply so that this may be settled
^^what antrocles saidantrocles said:
@mckenna: i hope this is not the case with you mckenna, as this is what it sounds like to me. you really do need introspect much.antrocles said:
p.s. Please reply so that this may be settled
Big Inhale
The Enlightend One
Maybe we should all join his facebook page then correct the mistakes and misinformation that will undoubtedly be spewed from that page.I f you cant beat'em join'em then beat'em from the inside.
Though I love the eloquent way in which everyone replies, I do feel that this person is getting way too much bandwidth. Phrases like 'pearls before swine' come to mind.
Until this T-shirt of a character feels compelled to repeat or elaborate on its mission, shouldn't the finger or at most a deafening silence suffice?
PS: I so love you guys and gals.
Until this T-shirt of a character feels compelled to repeat or elaborate on its mission, shouldn't the finger or at most a deafening silence suffice?
PS: I so love you guys and gals.
What I get from this is that the origional poster is basically a whiny little brat that doesnt know how to properly communicate with others. It's called SOCIAL SKILLS bud, and it works! Whining, bitching and arrogantly attacking people and communities does not..instead it makes you look silly and petty.
Then you hide under the name of man that has basically voiced his opposition to the idea of giving psychedelics randomly to every single person, and agrees that we tried that in the 60's and while it changed some things, it put a huge roadblock in our way in the end.
You think simply giving away DMT to every single person is the way to do it, god you missed the entire point man. Get some real experience and maybe come back with a better explaination than whining and attacking other people.
Oh I forgot, you are helping the community with your shitty how to DMT videos, that are shotty at best and inform people on the more dangerous and lazy ways to extract..so when something goes wrong they can just say "hey well its on youtube!", and direct all the wrong attention to you and the rest of the online communities like this where THE BETTER INFORMATION IS.
Do you know ho many people would LOVE this site to go away? Even most of the ayahuasca churches would just freaking love for the nexus to be gone so noone could extract anymore DMT and draw attention to they're use of it..you think we DONT care about making DMT available to people? You are delusional. Stop being rediculous, getyour head out of your ass and wake up. You thik its all so one sided..you take this "us vs them" mentality that makes you feel all empowered and riled up, but in the end just confuses you more. Good luck with that brother.
Your problem is you haveno elegance in the way you approach this thing. Your trying to flail yourself into the thing full speed not giving a shit about where you land or who you land on..
You want to be Ghandi?..so prove it..approach the thing with a bit more mindfullness and concider the implications.
Then you hide under the name of man that has basically voiced his opposition to the idea of giving psychedelics randomly to every single person, and agrees that we tried that in the 60's and while it changed some things, it put a huge roadblock in our way in the end.
You think simply giving away DMT to every single person is the way to do it, god you missed the entire point man. Get some real experience and maybe come back with a better explaination than whining and attacking other people.
Oh I forgot, you are helping the community with your shitty how to DMT videos, that are shotty at best and inform people on the more dangerous and lazy ways to extract..so when something goes wrong they can just say "hey well its on youtube!", and direct all the wrong attention to you and the rest of the online communities like this where THE BETTER INFORMATION IS.
Do you know ho many people would LOVE this site to go away? Even most of the ayahuasca churches would just freaking love for the nexus to be gone so noone could extract anymore DMT and draw attention to they're use of it..you think we DONT care about making DMT available to people? You are delusional. Stop being rediculous, getyour head out of your ass and wake up. You thik its all so one sided..you take this "us vs them" mentality that makes you feel all empowered and riled up, but in the end just confuses you more. Good luck with that brother.
Your problem is you haveno elegance in the way you approach this thing. Your trying to flail yourself into the thing full speed not giving a shit about where you land or who you land on..
You want to be Ghandi?..so prove it..approach the thing with a bit more mindfullness and concider the implications.
BananaForeskin
I Eat Plant Magic
The Nexus is in no way against spreading knowledge of DMT... I DO spread the knowledge of DMT, I have introduced many friends to it, some of whom even extract for themselves. But that's the way you should find out about DMT: not through a random internet encounter, but by word of mouth from a trusted friend (or maybe because you were researching entheogens obsessively for a while).
It's just too dangerous for people to be exposed to this in the improper way. That does NOT mean they shouldn't be exposed to it, if they want to be and have the chutzpah.
By all means, share the importance of entheogens to everyone you both know and trust. I do. That's the only way it can be done. People discover DMT, then discover the Nexus when they need to. The other way around leads only to trouble.
If the OP did start the facebook page, let me say that trying to fight the government on their own turf is folley without popular support. Entheogenic freedom needs not be a battle, per se, but a winning over.
It's just too dangerous for people to be exposed to this in the improper way. That does NOT mean they shouldn't be exposed to it, if they want to be and have the chutzpah.
By all means, share the importance of entheogens to everyone you both know and trust. I do. That's the only way it can be done. People discover DMT, then discover the Nexus when they need to. The other way around leads only to trouble.
If the OP did start the facebook page, let me say that trying to fight the government on their own turf is folley without popular support. Entheogenic freedom needs not be a battle, per se, but a winning over.
About this policing the internet...
Obviously if one wanted to police the information, it would go against logic to create a online community to share information no?
Using someones name to voice your own opinion is a big no no. Just in plain old common sense.
If you truly believe to some degree that you represent some other peoples interest, you should come out and confront the rest of us as an individual person with an opinion. The fact that you hide behind another name wither that be TM or the Nexus to avoid criticism makes you (pardon my french) chicken. If you want to be a part of a discussion, carry at least the portion of the responsibility with your own name.
Obviously if one wanted to police the information, it would go against logic to create a online community to share information no?
Using someones name to voice your own opinion is a big no no. Just in plain old common sense.
If you truly believe to some degree that you represent some other peoples interest, you should come out and confront the rest of us as an individual person with an opinion. The fact that you hide behind another name wither that be TM or the Nexus to avoid criticism makes you (pardon my french) chicken. If you want to be a part of a discussion, carry at least the portion of the responsibility with your own name.
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