Why is DMT so rare in comparison to other psychedelics?

[Chillest-]

Just curious as it is so easy to synthesise. I have many friends in my circle who can get access to Lucy, all kinds of mushrooms and 2cb but never come across DMT.

I've done changa once and it was incredible, ever since I've been waiting for the opportunity to be able to try my hand at making it. Now I understand that it is a pretty simple process I'm just curious as to why DMT is not more readily available on the street.

 

[Exitwound]

Because probably DMT is less of a party drug than LSD, shrooms or 2CB. It's more of a medicine than recreational substance, hence less interest from the regular high seekers.

 

[Nydex]

Keep in mind you're not "making" DMT, you're simply extracting it. Chemical synthesis of DMT is a whole different level of challenge compared to pulling it out of plants.

 

[Jamie01]

DMT is probly less rare than 2cb around here. Not that 2cb is rare these days.

 

[Voidmatrix]

As a friend of mine likes to say, there's no such thing as a recreational DMT trip. He's joking of course, but DMT and other similar molecules relative to experience can get real. Most people aren't trying to really soul search, but touch and have glimpse of transcendental states, and have a good time. Not look at shadow in the most intense way possible. Unlike many other psychedelics, DMT is a crap shoot, especially over time, you don't know what you're going to get.

One love

 

[Jamie01]

Honestly I think many ppl in harm reduction will attest that despite how much DMT use there may be at festivals etc..it’s more LSD and shrooms etc that is really getting people. I would put oral DMT in that category as well but most people don’t ever do that. Vaped DMT is just too short to send as many ppl into a crisis the way a 12 hour acid trip can. On top of that it just seems like everyone is smoking DMT pens, while socializing and dancing with a beer in the other hand. So many people I meat at raves etc tell me that they’re favourite thing to do is hit a DMT while dancing.

It really is a good option for recreational use though IMO, when the dose is controlled and kept low enough. Its probly the best psychedelic for a person to begin with as well. When people say they don’t feel ready for DMT they really mean they aren’t ready for a high dose tryptamine. It’s just so easy to inhale too much but it’s also really easy to just chill and vape a few mg.

 

[Pemulis]

It really is a good option for recreational use though IMO, when the dose is controlled and kept low enough. Its probly the best psychedelic for a person to begin with as well. When people say they don’t feel ready for DMT they really mean they aren’t ready for a high dose tryptamine. It’s just so easy to inhale too much but it’s also really easy to just chill and vape a few mg.

I think you are spot on here. I would recommend a low dose (emphasis on low!) as an introduction to psychedelics. Unlike being potentially strapped in for hours with shrooms etc.

Festivals and the like aren't the circles I really move in (perhaps I should get out more) but I can see the appeal of a low dose hit of vaped DMT in that context could be quite efficacious to one's enjoyment. On here, I think we tend to think in terms of exploring hyperspace and whatnot (me included) but I can absolutely understand the appeal of this rather different set and setting.

This isn't to underestimate the potential power of the medicine of course. Anything approaching a breakthrough dose shouldn't be taken lightly and I cannot imagine doing that at a music festival would be a good idea. I'm grateful that I discovered DMT in middle age, not when I was in my '20s and would have taken it at a party or something if it had been offered to me.

 

[yatyas314]

I could not imagine doing it at a festival, In fact I have ever only done it with 1 person on 2 occasions, every other time its been SOLO.

 

[Jamie01]

It’s hard to imagine what people mean when they say “music festival”…esp if you have never been or only been to the mainstream junk like coachella. It’s a bit different from the more underground electronic music/psychedelic events that happen outdoors/in the woods, geared towards tripping with visionary art temples. It’s very way as well to slip away into the forest etc at these events. They have staff onsite usually trained specifically to deal with people who are having bad trips. It’s probly a better venue for tripping than some people realize and that’s where you often find the others.

 

[Pemulis]

It’s hard to imagine what people mean when they say “music festival”…esp if you have never been or only been to the mainstream junk like coachella. It’s a bit different from the more underground electronic music/psychedelic events that happen outdoors/in the woods, geared towards tripping with visionary art temples. It’s very way as well to slip away into the forest etc at these events. They have staff onsite usually trained specifically to deal with people who are having bad trips. It’s probly a better venue for tripping than some people realize and that’s where you often find the others.

Fair point @Jamie01. I wasn't aware those sorts of events existed. Sounds great though

 

[fireandice]

As a friend of mine likes to say, there's no such thing as a recreational DMT trip. He's joking of course, but DMT and other similar molecules relative to experience can get real. Most people aren't trying to really soul search, but touch and have glimpse of transcendental states, and have a good time. Not look at shadow in the most intense way possible. Unlike many other psychedelics, DMT is a crap shoot, especially over time, you don't know what you're going to get.

One love

From my experience. It is always some type of encouragement or a lesson involved in a DMT trip.

 

[The Sofa Traveler]

In my opinion there are several reasons for DMT being less available on the market than other psychedelics like shrooms or LSD. Even if the extraction process remains accessible to non chemists, in a "kitchen lab" approach, it's only "easily" done in small scales. Most of kitchen-extractors will do it in small amounts for their own use, not to push it on the market. Also, as other members mentioned, and from my own experience too, it's definitely not the most appropriate psychedelic drug for festivals. Ok, at small doses delivered by vape pens it might be nice for dancing but it's anyway not a very socializing molecule, especially the higher the dose. A higher DMT dose in festivals might quickly become an overwhelming and not so enjoyable experience. To me it's a molecule that reveals optimally at home and alone. I think classic psychedelics like shrooms or LSD remain a better option in this kind of context, especially for their socializing aspect (if the dose is kept reasonable of course ).