I beleive that a polar-nonpolar extraction would work fine for a dmt extraction from MHRB using acetone and naptha, also taking into account that the bark often has low fats in it, it might come out pretty clean. I was also kinda wondering if a similar extraction using water would work, it seems so me that these are much easier than acid base yet I don't see em much, this confuses me. Can anyone vouche for my hypothesis?
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Why no polar-non-polar extraction?
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I'm not quite sure I understand what your saying.. because even when using acidic solution you are still using a polar layer which is then made basic and the alkaloid extracted with non polar.. as far as i know the acidic element of the procedure is to lyse the cell walls of the plant matter.. helps draw the alkaloids out more efficiently. you dont have to use acidic solution though you can just use tap water as is but you'd definitely wanna boil it
How are proposing the DMT migrate from the acetone to the naphtha?EyeKicker said:
Have you added acetone to naphtha clean as a test?
Just naive here, but I'm not sure they aint miscible.
So you're looking to extract DMT in it's natural form?
Just naive here, but I'm not sure they aint miscible.
So you're looking to extract DMT in it's natural form?
What's wrong with following paved roads and working according to one the many TEKs described in the Wiki? They have been tested and work as advertised.
Based on your posts I assume you have a basic understanding of chemistry(which is merely an assumption, so excuse me if I'm wrong) but lack the advanced insights needed to by-pass existing TEKs. I base this on your question about mixing acetone/naphtha.
To answer your question: No, that would not work. Infundibulum agrees with me.
What makes you feel it's OK to question the honesty or intelligence of people who are taking the time to read your question and reply to it?
Based on your posts I assume you have a basic understanding of chemistry(which is merely an assumption, so excuse me if I'm wrong) but lack the advanced insights needed to by-pass existing TEKs. I base this on your question about mixing acetone/naphtha.
To answer your question: No, that would not work. Infundibulum agrees with me.
What makes you feel it's OK to question the honesty or intelligence of people who are taking the time to read your question and reply to it?
You don't find people doing polar/nonpolar extractions [of DMT from M. tenuiflora root bark] for the same reason you don't find people cooking eggs with their butane torch lighters.
Acetone is miscible with naphtha and also pulls dmt salts (i.e. in the form they are in the root bark) poorly. Acetone cannot be based because pH is a property of water only.EyeKicker said:
If you want a polar->non-polar extraction then try using water as your polar solvent , it works miracles.
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do not question my method of cooking eggs, good sir..Entropymancer said:
at least not til you have tasted them.
Sorry apperently I need to be very clear, I though you guys would understand what im saying to an extent so I didn't put in much information. Ok, well first of all thank you guys for your responses but there weren't very helpful. Thanks for teh clarification of polar-nonpolar extraction, you are right it is still a polar-nonplar extraction lolz. What I mean is that I am using acetone for the polar solvent and naptha for a nonpolar solvent instead of using acids and bases, I will probobly do the pulls seperate considering they are miscible. I will probobly use water and acetone to extract a fuller range of alkaloids and then evaporate. The I will wash with naptha to remove fats and then probobly freeze precipitate from naptha also. The FASA method of fumarate salt synthesis shows that acetoen dissolves freebase DMT fine, I know this isn't how all the alkaloids are present in Mimosa but along with water I beleive it will do finee. I want to do this extraction TEK cuz these are the solvents I have availible, they are lessa dangerous in my opinion than strong acids and bases often required to preform these extractions. It also uses less chemicals if only using acetone and naptha! Do you guys understand now? Sorry for being unclear, I could have saved us all a lot of time. peace guys 
I was also wondering what you guys think about using Sodium Carbonate or Bicarbonate as a base and HCl as an acid. And I am iffy about using store bought hydrochloric acid, it is a sunnyside product and says muriatic acid on the front, can I use this in my extractions? apparently its like 60 something percent "inert material" so this is scary and promising haha.
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