After the solvent (ronsonal) evaporated, a yellowish goo like melted butter was left. It does not dry, it stays wet and oily. Is this some product left from the naphtha, or DMT? It smells synthetic but don't want to mess with it if it's some impurity left from naphtha. Information would be helpful so that one may add more base in the case molecule has not yet transfered to solvent.
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what is ronsonal?? dmt will form crystals the yellow stuff is a common impurity observed in these extractions. it could be lack of base so DMT didnt freebase well (check your pH). or it could be too much impurities so then you should clean up your extract. recrystallize in warm naptha or another micro A/B to clean up.
pSySex said:
I believe ronsonal is very dirty naphtha, leaving behind many impurities (someone else chime in, because I am going 100% off memory here).
I would highly suggest melting that spice goo back into more ronsonal (or better yet, get some naphtha that evaporates clean) and sicking it in your freezer.
VM&P is the brand most people suggest. Home Dep, Lowes, or Ace has this brand.
Big Inhale
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Yes ronsonol is very dirty an extraction gave SWIM some extremely dark yellow DMT nasty that isacolon_5 said:
Ok yeah, ronsonal is the dirty one. I thought I had that right.
Clean Ronsonal (with nothing else in it) leaves a sticky yellow residue when evaped. This residue contains some really nasty stuff.
Please don't use what you have made, redissolve in some clean naphtha (not ronsonal) and do a freeze precipitate on what you redissolve. You REALLY don't want to be smoking rust inhibitors and other hydrocarbon yummies that is currently imbedded in your spice. A wash at this point won't even be enough. You REALLY need to recrystalize using clean stuff.
Clean Ronsonal (with nothing else in it) leaves a sticky yellow residue when evaped. This residue contains some really nasty stuff.
Please don't use what you have made, redissolve in some clean naphtha (not ronsonal) and do a freeze precipitate on what you redissolve. You REALLY don't want to be smoking rust inhibitors and other hydrocarbon yummies that is currently imbedded in your spice. A wash at this point won't even be enough. You REALLY need to recrystalize using clean stuff.
Sinewave said:
^ Brand Name Bestine, sold in art stores as a rubber cement thinner. The saftey profile on it shows that it is much safer to use than Naphtha, Toulene, or Xylene. It is not cheap, but it can easily be found on an online search. I use VM&P for initial pulls and only use my Heptane for recrystalizations...heptane is just amazing when recrystalizing. It evaps so quickly and cleanly and produces the clearest, best defined crystals that I have been able to make.
Ok, after seeing a few comments, one might figure it may due to both bad naphtha and incorrect PH. One might be happy that it's both, knowing the special properties are still locked in a salt state. Anyone know of one that may know how long an A/B mixture will last before spoiling? One broke his PH electrode so going blindly as of this point, so one is relying on creating base at least equal to organic solution. Or should one go beyond half and half A+B?
pSySex said:
The culprit is most likely the ronsonal. If your mixture turned black when you added your NaOH it was high enough. If what you have is grey you need to add more lye.
I have had an A/B extraction sitting in my closet for months before, and still doing the naphtha pulls on it.
I believe your problem is the ronsonal, not your pH.