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jamie

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So this morning i felt like tripping, and i wanted to use a tryptamine to help better reflect on a rather strong salvinorin experiene I had yesterday. I wanted to save my last dose of chaliponga alkaloids, and wasnt ready to begin experimentation with the phalaris again yet.. so out came my yopo snuff.

I had prepared the snuff with crushed shells that i collected myself from the beach, but they were NOT burned before hand. I mixed it all together with warm water and stirred it for at least 10 mintues to evenly distribute everything. I did this months ago and have had it ever since. So I loaded up my water pipe with about 1 seeds worth, maybe less, maybe more. Took it all in 1 toke and held it..

The first thing I felt was exteme euphoria, like had just eaten and 8th of shrooms and took a bong hit.. but no visuals. It only lasted about 10 seconds, then the nausea and head and neck tension that i get everytime kicked in. It was HORRIBLE. I hated it. I hate it every time! Luckily the sickness only lasted a few minutes, then it gave away like usual to a fuzzy sort of peacefullness, with the nauseated sickness lingering in the background. I read so many reports of bufo being VERY visual, but i never got anything other than the bare minimum of wavy distorions that are barely even there and a red glow sort of thing. I can tell that I have taken a tryptamine, and like I am sort of on the verge of "something", but feel if I up the dosage the nausea will literally kill me:? .. its really not like ayahuasca nausea, not in my experience , far too violent.

I would hate to abandone this route prematurelly.. i read too many amazing yopo reports... should I smoke more? does anyone have succesful experinece with smoking unextracted snuff, and if so, does the nausea increase with the dose or does it plateau at some point and give way to visual and audia hallucinations?

One last thing.. is it necessary to burn the shells before hand? Could this be my problem?
 
uhm.. dude? why do you smoke snuff? snuff is made for snuffing it! my guess would be that there was only little bufotenine if any present in the mix. your experience sounds more like smoked 5-meo-dmt to me. try using that snuff sublingually. just stick it under your tongue and keep it there until you notice effects.
 
or do it like they did it in the effin jungle lol. snort it. it was my first psychedelic experience and it was effin intense. and so was the nausea.
 
i know most tribes snuff, but i was under the impression that it was used by the incas as a smoked entheogen.. tried snuffing once a long time ago, and results were the same but drawn out.. I am familiar with 5meo and it def was too nauseating to be 5 meo ...

the next day i tried again with chaliponga alkaloids i have that are high in 5meo and it was beautiful...nothing like the seeds...maybe its just shitty yopo, after reading some of 69rons reports i think that most of the nausea is due to other alkaloids..
 
Darkbb said:
or do it like they did it in the effin jungle lol. snort it.
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You realize they also smoke it in the jungle, right? There's archaeological evidence for yopo-smoking going back much further than snuffing.

lorax said:
uhm.. dude? why do you smoke snuff? snuff is made for snuffing it!
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While I've snuffed it before, I prefer smoking; why mess with the peanut-buttery nostrils if you don't have to?

I personally have found it to be more effective smoking a snuff-type preparation than smoking the raw seeds. Smoking the snuff is not such a bizarre idea.


But I agree, it sounds like these are weak seeds.

And also, there is no point in using shells if they weren't burnt to quicklime.
 
yeah.. thats exactly how its done. roast em and peel of the shell. the shell is supposed to be very nauseating.. yopo is way more nauseating than virola tho.. i recommend to check out virola theidora. its very nice. and only nauseating in high doses. but thats when it gets interesting! try using a small amount of virola until you feel very comfortable with it and then vaporize some elfdust. -biomechanics beyond my wildest dreams! ;)
 
Ok, I'll try em both. But let me be clear on virola, your supposed to dry out the resin at low heat, mix it with some edible lime in like a 5/1 ratio, dampen it a little and then dry it out again?
 
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