Younger generations and technology.

[DoctorMantus]

Well first let me say, since the nexus only allows 18 and older this would not be pertaining to them, more towards the generation born the 95 year.

Upon watching some morning show maybe it was The Doctors, but anyway this guy had made a very good point, He had asked the question are men growing up becoming less manly? He said the younger generations just seem to be caught completely up in their smart-phones or their computers. He made the point that 20 years back men used to be very handy, knew how to fix things, such as a car, or a lawnmower.

It made me think a little bit, Surely a man becoming less manly is not a bad thing because all of have both feminine and masculine qualities, whether the man decides to show his girl-y side, or the woman her manly side, we have it both.

this is not the concern, this seems very true that young boys or men can not do anything industrious with their hands, i know when i was 16ish 17ish i was learning how to change a car oil, how to side and roof a house, these kids now a days spend most of the day in front of their screen.

Another thing to add to technology, i often see more than less people walking the streets with phones practically glued to their face.




And to add one more thing off topic from above, Watching something with this man speaking of food and what can we do to make sure that it does not become scarce. Now he made one really good point, We throw out enough food to basically feed every homeless person in the world, whether our food is not finished and thrown out, or we don't even have the time to eat it so it goes moldy and we throw it out, Lots and lots of food molded and wasted even at stores when so many are starving in the world.

You know i am very saddened when i see a homeless, walking the street but then what is there to do for that person, because you know surely 2 blocks from him is another one, and so on.

Idk these ideas have just been floating around my head and i needed to share them thank you for your time.

 

[Infectedstyle]

My brain is like a spongue and i just soaked up the information. It's true that the computer generation grows up differently. I can see it in my own life, i simply have no idea how to change a car oil or any of that stuff. It doesn't neccesarily raise concern in my eyes tho cus we grew up learning different sets of skills. Mainly thanks to the internet. And if i ever need to fix up a car i guess i can look it up on the internet. lulzz1!1!!

Tho, it's kind of sad when people start texting and facebooking on their iphones while im sitting right in front of them. Guess im just not an interesting enough person to TRY and talk to. Still love them tho.

 

[DoctorMantus]

. Mainly thanks to the internet. And if i ever need to fix up a car i guess i can look it up on the internet. lulzz1!1!!

Very true point. But lets just say, idk if you own a smart-phone, i do not and say if you are in the middle of nowhere and your car breaks down, yea you can call for help, but maybe you are in the desert and you have no service, and your battery is about to die, what do you do then?

 

[Cosmic Rift]

but maybe you are in the desert and you have no service, and your battery is about to die, what do you do then?

you leave your car on and drive away

 

[brokin]

Well, they need a proper introduction to internet.

Internet is not for porn, games, socializing.Although it's a big part of it, and it's nothing wrong with it.
But at a certain age you must realize things and either use them properly or give them up.

Internet is basically like having the complete human consciousness and knowledge at your fingerprints.
Using it properly and with determination, doing some research you can become a genius.

In the same time real life interaction is very important too.Balance.
There should be some kind of Technology Education.

Endless knowledge skillls EVERYTHING just waiting there for some young prick.
As for manliness maybe this is better, the ANIMUS has been in power all this time the left brain...

 

[DoctorMantus]

but maybe you are in the desert and you have no service, and your battery is about to die, what do you do then?

you leave your car on and drive away

This would be convenient if the car wasn't broken. How does one drive away when their original problem is not being able to drive?

 

[tony]

Internet is basically like having the complete human consciousness and knowledge at your fingerprints.
Using it properly and with determination, doing some research you can become a genius.

This is very true. What usually happens though is instead of people picking a subject and studying it they just wait for situations or problems to occur and then google how to deal with it :lol:

Someone posted an article here recently describing a bit about the mentality of the internet generation (from our perspective) and how we don't have the same attitude to knowledge as previous generations because we so easily can find things out when we need to.

OP you make a valid point about the changing male gender role, same applies to women though. Back when the men were all handy and macho the women were mostly housewives, this has changed too. I think overall the shift in perceptions and priorities that has went on through the last few generations has been a positive thing. I wonder what the next generations will be like.

 

[Global]

I think a well balanced individual is essential. If it means bringing down the testosterone levels (within reason), I think it would be healthy for society to value its macho patriarchal values a little less. How this translates into fixing your broken down car in a desert, I don't know

 

[DoctorMantus]

OP you make a valid point about the changing male gender role, same applies to women though. Back when the men were all handy and macho the women were mostly housewives, this has changed too. I think overall the shift in perceptions and priorities that has went on through the last few generations has been a positive thing. I wonder what the next generations will be like.

This is very true and not trying to void it out, it is very true, it also seems more woman are working while the men stay home and help with the family.

How this translates into fixing your broken down car in a desert, I don't know

It doesn't but yes a well balance in both male and female is definitely a positive.

 

[BananaForeskin]

Regardless of gender roles...

Mantus has a point about use of technology versus use of hands-- I was born on the cusp of the shift, and everything practical I've learned how to do I learned because I was determined to... most people my age are a little bewildered by the fact that I can fix things, or make things... it's really more a mental thing than a physical thing, kind of in the same way my mum has a mental block when it comes to operating software.

The age of technology is about consuming, consuming media, consuming communication, consuming products... and that's more how a lot of people think; the idea of physically producing something has become strangely foreign.

 

[Infectedstyle]

. Mainly thanks to the internet. And if i ever need to fix up a car i guess i can look it up on the internet. lulzz1!1!!

Very true point. But lets just say, idk if you own a smart-phone, i do not and say if you are in the middle of nowhere and your car breaks down, yea you can call for help, but maybe you are in the desert and you have no service, and your battery is about to die, what do you do then?

Before you drive to the middle of a desert, take some proper preperations! I don't own a smartphone but i know you can get a portable battery charger for ur phone. And it's probably smart to take with you a book on how to maintain ur car but i doubt many people will do that. You could take an ebook. ^^ but it's also battery charged and hard to fix when it's broken.

I think that maybe technology plays a bit of a dehumanizing role with kids growing up. With all of the entertainment available on computers it is easy to play out the majority of ur life here through a computer screen. While the sun is shining bright outside there's nothing wrong with choosing to stay home and use your computer, it's still reality but nothing beats the experience of the outside world in interaction with itself. Balance is the key here I guess. Technology is a tool, use it wisely.

 

[brokin]

Banana that is very true too.

Everything seems centered around money.No real progress for humankind is made.
Any progress made it's made for the sake of money or some kind of ongoing Cold War(See the new zombie laser weapon thinggy)

And web seems to slowly become more and more like the rest.

Out of any kind of technology, really the web is the most underused tool there is.For example the Kony 2012 thing.That would have been a good example if the head wouldn't walk naked afterwards.

But basically there really should be some kind of technology education in schools teaching about balanced work.
With the stuff we have today, we could use it in so much better places.

Seriously our technology is proof that we all wanna be "closer", to be able to talk in seconds with everyone around the globe.And for them to take money for that it's...That is real Piracy.

 

[The Day Tripper]

I saw this video yesterday, and it pretty much fits in with how i feel about the advancement in communications on new generations.

The real potential in new technology, is it allows ideas to have sex, and people normally isolated due to geosocial factors to communicate with otheres who have a focus/specialization in common with them. It perpetuates novelty, creativity, etc, and really the internet has done so much more than we can realize for us and how we communicate better.

The guy in the video argues that we all have specializations we develop, that others don't pursue, for reason of them choosing other specializations. I agree to an extent, but also that we can limit ourselves by too much reliance on others specialized skills, its good to be specialized in a few subjects, but diverse in as much else as possible. You learn how to be diverse by communicating with others specialized in the skills you are pursuing knowledge of.

If anything, the internet and greater communication between minds is going to be a very good thing. All the historical evidence has shown that the more communication and interaction between different cultures than whats available locally has been a driving factor in social evolution. More people realizing their specializations, contributing to others needs by not being specialized, and in return getting specialized knowledge/work, or currency exchange.

And while its good to not get so far into that idea that you think we all should focus on one subject intently, causing too much specialization and isolation to a degree, its a profound idea imho. Something like a hypermind, when people work together like that. You just have to remain balanced in the idea that you are a separate entity and need to be generalized in your skills as well.

This fits in with how people have changed over time, as i see things. We have become less generalized and can focus more on individual subjects, sometimes causing us to lose our sense of balance that we need to remain individually generalized. Its balancing creating a new way of thinking collectively, without losing sight of how you need to remain a "Renaissance man" at the same time. Some people have forgotten that and don't realize the dependency it causes them to have on others, rather than being personally able to deal with problems, ie fixing cars, handiness, etc. But you can't solve all your own problems, and the collective mind idea is a good thing so long as its taken with a grain of salt.

 

[emptymind]

You can say this about any generation. Maybe many of the current youngsters cant fix a car, but how many of the people that grew up fixing cars know how to ride a horse? Or change a horseshoe on a horse?

My dad can fix just about anything on a car, which is pretty cool, but there is plenty of stuff I can do that he has no idea about. I can do basic programming. I can use the internet much more efficiently than he can. I can hook up electronics much more easily than he can etc.


People focus on whats important in their world. Cars nowadays are built better, and require less maintenance and fewer repairs, so it isnt as important to know how to fix them. That and cars today are much more complicated than older ones, so its more difficult to work on them. It is important to know how to use technology, and most young folks do.