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Your Thoughts about Hyperspace Entities

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Metatron

Metatron

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What are some of your thoughts about Hyperspace entities? Whether or not you've encountered any, I'd like to hear your theories about them. Do you believe that they have an autonomous existence in another dimension? Do they come into existence seconds before you encounter them? Do you believe that they are merely the product of your subconscious imagination or perhaps even the imagination of the Universe?
 
hey metatron...all through history in eveery culture there are stories of angels/demons/spirits/supernatural beings. consider the source of all these stories..I feel there is just too many experiences of these creatures for them to be anything but real. now if they are an aspect of ourselves or actual individuals seperate from ourselves is harder to say.. I like one of the hindu ideas, that every emotion/ feeling/ mode of conciousnes has a avatar, an actual being that is all that particular aspect,. I think its very posible thats what we are seeing, we just can't fully integrate all those 'selves' into one awareness all the time..I hope some day that will be the norm though..just imagine if everyone saw themselves in that way!!!
 
My question would be, "are they real"?

I don't think i ever met any entities, i did see some really spooky image of a very colourful and abstract shaped human looking thing that looked as if it was watching me, more like staring, the feeling that gave me was pretty eerie, kinda spooky.

After that trip ended i was not sure what to think about it either, but you'll have to take notice of the fact that this was the first time i saw something that could've been described as an entity, but i just feel that it was just a very surreal product of my own fantasy, cause the way it looked made me think a whole lot of the background art of the DMT Nexus on top of this page, it might influenced my fantasy, maybe more of this will make me change my mind.

More experience will probably help me with that. :d
 
I have not even tried DMT yet but from what I've read, I wonder if the experience of other "entities" or "intelligences" while on DMT is not analagous to the out-of-body experience that also often comes with DMT - except that instead of it being your own body that you don't recognize, it's your own consciousness that you do not recognize as being yours.
 
Metatron-

Great question- something of a hot potato that one! It was this question more than any other that drew me back to psychedelics after a 20 year absence. I read Strassman's Spirit Molecule and just couldn't bear to be left out of what appeared to be the 'real thing'.

My first contact with 'them' was in the form of some telepathic teasing/playfulness/giggling over my right shoulder. I haven't been the same since. I really didn't expect it to happen. Not really. It must just be crazys on drugs right?

elofer-

Interesting point about the Hindu avatar. Mainstream psychologists might say that the avatar (if it exists) is a manifestation of a particular aspect of our individual mind. Others may say that the avatars present themselves from an external dimension. We witness their manifestation and are, as you say, misinterpreting those 'selves' as aspects of our one self. A great point to consider- thank you. This is really quite deep.:shock:
 
w0mbat-

it's your own consciousness that you do not recognize as being yours.
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I think that's what conventional neuroscience would say. Through disassociation/dissolution/disintegration of the ego various, normally integrated aspects of the psyche are presented as somehow alien or 'outside of ourselves.'

Would that make 'them' any less real?

I have to lay my cards on the table here and say that they have appeared to me and were more real than I am! :shock: :shock: :shock:

They are glorious, they are love and they are intelligent.

I am none of those things and so I conclude that they were not me.

Go figure.
 
wow transitory!!? what makes you think you are not glorious and love and beautifull?? really you are..I don't know you at all but I know, it takes a wonderful loving beasuitiful being to recognise one!!
 
well I for one am glad I am not the only one who has broght up this point!!!!!!!!! and yeah it freaks me the F out too believe me, but mabey just mabey they only appear more powerful than us, and ther is ways to overcome somrthing more powerful than yoursel..coadunate mind would be my first suggestion.
 
you know something we should all consider as well is that the universe in general is predatory in the extreme..ok so lets imagine a hyperspatial predator..ideally a predator attracts its prey to it, and what better way to attract a human than good feelings of love/glory/ acceptance??
this is very scary thing that so many people trust these 'others' at face value of what they are presenting..take the anglerfish for example! in near complete darlness it uses a 'pretty light' as a lure..but it is mostly teeth and mouth!!
 
SWIM has only had 1 encounter with an entity. It was actually his first "real" dose of DMT, where he saw another place materialize in front of him. The sense that he got was not that it was trying to please him but simply observe. After consideration, SWIM believes it was showing a very basic room with a single 4D object to help familiarize him with this world. Perhaps his views will change when one isn't quite so friendly.

SWIM's first real psychedelic experience also brought several questions to mind. These colors and abstract beings remind him of ancient drawings from before his time.... The fact that humans have probably been encountering these beings since the very start is also interesting. Too much "coincidence" for a simple trick of the mind in SWIM's opinion. If the mind can experience full sensory hallucinations just by smoking a simple chemical.......
 
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now your freaking me out with the anglerfish analogy! I have no answer to that :shock:

It is a concern that has been raised here before. That these presences are so much more powerful than our narrow and fragile egos that they could do us great harm. You are of course correct in your observation of the natural order here on Earth. Nature has indeed produced some horrors.

Again ... I have no answer to that :shock:
 
maybe they only appear to be more powerful and real than you because your just stepping into the reality they exist in as a quick tourist. Perhaps when you sleep or die you are in this state of existence as a equal to them. Perhaps the entities we see are on their own dmt at the same time haha.

I speculate this other existence of reality is something as close to 'god' as we can be. The consciousness of the universe. Perhaps when this consciousness (us?) (decides?) to enter a biological state we become what we are today. To live out our part and than return back. Maybe we have lived in a cycle of life from biological existence to this other indescribable existence since the beginning of time on a multitude of different planets and forms.

Can't say i can give any personal experience, im still waiting for a ingredient to make its way over here; im a DMT virgin.
 
I have recently returned to my Christian faith, so I suspect the entities to be apostate spirits. I've been thinking this way for awhile, but The Enemy God thread really clinched it for me.

The Yanomamo Shaman speaks thusly: "As shamans, the one we feared most was the one who lives in the heaven of heavens. He was the enemy spirit, and our demons were terrified of him. When I was in a trance as a shaman, I was shown this place of beauty, of brightness."

Having read many reports, I have a vague suspicion of what the spirits are doing. The idea of hyperspatial predators resonates with me strongly, especially Opticuswrangler's descriptions. Cut off from the one life source which is God, they feed on the children of God. Whether it is pure awareness that they feed on, strong emotions of pain, fear and suffering, or the soul itself - I'm not sure. All the delights of hyperspace are just a lure. But there is also another purpose - that of misleading the victim from the truth. The old lie is always paramount: "and you will be like God".

I'm fairly certain that God's true spirits would not be allowed to access human souls in hyperspace, yet I've read some reports that make me wonder. However, I'm going to the Father through His Son Jesus, which does not involve DMT, or encounters with dangerous spirits. I'm deeply thankful I've had no access to DMT, for there have been times when I would have risked trying it.
 
wow transitory!!? what makes you think you are not glorious and love and beautifull??
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I'm also wondering about this. If there's one message, it's that you are indeed a very beautiful and loveable beeing. Try to accept that the next time and you'll appreciate it greatly!!

@Morphane
How about angels? Maybe the entitys are angels? My friend also had contact with a very godly beeing and it felt indeed like the christian god. Not that I'm a christian, I just guess that our cultural programing plays an important role. Why don't you let god guide you instead of making hasty judgements?
 
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