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polytrip said:
Agreed. This is why I'm here on the Nexus to learn and discover. Are these entities psychedelic Feelings, or are they "objective?" This will take some significant time, experience, and personal development to "figure out" as best we can... but for now I'm leaning towards an "objective mix."
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wow fractalenhancement..you expreesALOT of the same conclusions I have come too on this subject..I gagree 100% on your views of the church and what it has done to human diversity and it makes me very happy that there are those who can really see the big picture instead of having 'faith' that what they are doing is right instead of listening to thier heart.
bless all you fok here..really!!!!!!
agreed that morphane need s to staua nd keep up what he is doing/evolving..as I said I was in his placve once..and glory be that I found the tuth behingd the faith..glory be...we are one family..we need not slaughter one another for our diferences..we must celibrate them!! let it be
bless all you fok here..really!!!!!!
agreed that morphane need s to staua nd keep up what he is doing/evolving..as I said I was in his placve once..and glory be that I found the tuth behingd the faith..glory be...we are one family..we need not slaughter one another for our diferences..we must celibrate them!! let it be
Yes..when topic like christianity come up in discussion like this it is important for people to really know the history of the church and how modern beliefs and practices of the church today came to be...because alot of what is told to people by the church today and what is written in the Bible is bullshit.
Nothing they say makes and sense from a cultural standpoint..if you really look deep enough into it. I have known so many christians..all of them were against halloween, or samhain..becasue it was pagan and they associated it with the devel(again something made up later)..yet they practice christmas blindly without ever wondering where the rendeer and santa, the Yule tree etc came from in the first place..same with the image of the easter bunny..it's insulting and a slap in the face to paganism..really it is and I take offence to it..I try not to but I do. I feel a way of life was so beautiful and one I want to follow has become nothing but consumeristic/marketing bullshit becasue of the church..
How would the church like it if pagans stated associating the cross with halloween and marketing the image of jeses, throwing away the real cultural importance of these things and sellign the image as pagan to draw people in?
It pisses me off as well how whenever the discussion of having "winter festival" instead of a "christmas festival" in the schools here in BC comes up..it is shot down..Mostly people are thinking about the indian people here and other people from the east..becasue they dont have christmas..they think christams is the white mans holiday and becasue people come to canada they should celebrate christmas. I hate that mentality..I am not chrisitan, I dont practice christmas, and never will..Becasue what it stands for is a lie..a "winter Festical" would actaully be closer to what the whole thing was origionally about in the first place. You know it's sad..I see it all the time how kids and even adults are caring less and less about understanding history..they are not interested..I think that that is a very dangerous thing, becasue it makes it soo much easier to be fooled..when you dont look back to where you have been you dont really know where it is you are going.
I would be happyif christiany just got back to its roots and all the right wing extremists opened theyre eyes a bit and aknowledged all the horror the religion has created. i think Jeses was a shaman who did great things. I read a book years ago called the 13 lsot years of Jesus or something like that it had lots of documentation concerning Jesus and his lost years. There was passages from buddhist tets and such that spoke of him durring those years and he was traveling through the east learning meditation and other techniques I have no doubt. I think he smoked cannabis, learned how to use mushrooms and maybe even acacai species along with syrian rue. That makes more sense than anything else I have ever heard.
I just wish they would let pagans have theyre holidays and stop polluting the beliefs of peoples they oppressed, peoples who's tradtions go WAYYYY back farther than Christ.
Nothing they say makes and sense from a cultural standpoint..if you really look deep enough into it. I have known so many christians..all of them were against halloween, or samhain..becasue it was pagan and they associated it with the devel(again something made up later)..yet they practice christmas blindly without ever wondering where the rendeer and santa, the Yule tree etc came from in the first place..same with the image of the easter bunny..it's insulting and a slap in the face to paganism..really it is and I take offence to it..I try not to but I do. I feel a way of life was so beautiful and one I want to follow has become nothing but consumeristic/marketing bullshit becasue of the church..
How would the church like it if pagans stated associating the cross with halloween and marketing the image of jeses, throwing away the real cultural importance of these things and sellign the image as pagan to draw people in?
It pisses me off as well how whenever the discussion of having "winter festival" instead of a "christmas festival" in the schools here in BC comes up..it is shot down..Mostly people are thinking about the indian people here and other people from the east..becasue they dont have christmas..they think christams is the white mans holiday and becasue people come to canada they should celebrate christmas. I hate that mentality..I am not chrisitan, I dont practice christmas, and never will..Becasue what it stands for is a lie..a "winter Festical" would actaully be closer to what the whole thing was origionally about in the first place. You know it's sad..I see it all the time how kids and even adults are caring less and less about understanding history..they are not interested..I think that that is a very dangerous thing, becasue it makes it soo much easier to be fooled..when you dont look back to where you have been you dont really know where it is you are going.
I would be happyif christiany just got back to its roots and all the right wing extremists opened theyre eyes a bit and aknowledged all the horror the religion has created. i think Jeses was a shaman who did great things. I read a book years ago called the 13 lsot years of Jesus or something like that it had lots of documentation concerning Jesus and his lost years. There was passages from buddhist tets and such that spoke of him durring those years and he was traveling through the east learning meditation and other techniques I have no doubt. I think he smoked cannabis, learned how to use mushrooms and maybe even acacai species along with syrian rue. That makes more sense than anything else I have ever heard.
I just wish they would let pagans have theyre holidays and stop polluting the beliefs of peoples they oppressed, peoples who's tradtions go WAYYYY back farther than Christ.
Anywayy..about hyperspace entites..
Who knows?
I used to think they were all real..I still think they are in a sense..
I think that there is some merit to the alternate dimensional thing..but there is also higher and lower selves I think. so these things could be aspects of a higher form of the self..independant of "this" worldy self in a sense..but still aspects of the person as a holistic being..
Right now it doesnt matter much to me..they certainly seem to know whats good for me. I have been told invaluable things by these beings and that is what matters. I have no idea as to the true nature of them, so I dont worry too much about it, I just try my best to be receptive and integrate my experiences with them. It is interesting to think abotu though.
I think that historically what were called "angles" and "ferries" were the same thing..and so are what we are talking about here.
Who knows?
I used to think they were all real..I still think they are in a sense..
I think that there is some merit to the alternate dimensional thing..but there is also higher and lower selves I think. so these things could be aspects of a higher form of the self..independant of "this" worldy self in a sense..but still aspects of the person as a holistic being..
Right now it doesnt matter much to me..they certainly seem to know whats good for me. I have been told invaluable things by these beings and that is what matters. I have no idea as to the true nature of them, so I dont worry too much about it, I just try my best to be receptive and integrate my experiences with them. It is interesting to think abotu though.
I think that historically what were called "angles" and "ferries" were the same thing..and so are what we are talking about here.
Hi fractal enchantment,
Do not get me wrong, I am very much with you. And I agree with most you have to say about the subject of religion. Indeed it is too bad such a truly beautiful thing (the origins of any religion) was corrupted.
I really feel sorry.
Thats why I still hope we can educate and influence ourselves and others, or otherwise make 'us and them' more tolerant in some more neutral and new way. So to create more momentum for unity. I believe in Holland this is working out (relatively) nice (though slowy). Most christians here (even the dumb-ass) are (have become) WAY more tolerant then lets say in the US. Maybe we CAN go back to the roots and original ideas of religion. But when we keep on tearing open old wounds, claiming (relatively) innocent followers are responsible (or otherwise making them feel bad, words will be taken personally, and will be misinterpreted), we wont get anywhere. Though truly justified to look at all the horror religion has brought us (and we should never forget), it would be a dead end. The sword will cut both ways. And the gap will bleed us all to death. We will be distracted (from unity), frustrated and confused and wont be able to deal with the other dangers that lie ahead, in the future of mankind. We really need to work together some way or the other. We do not know how much time we have left. So lets get started. Unity is the answer. And since we all seem to agree on that one, perhaps focus on that one. It is THE common denominator.
Forgive me if I am being to mild in your opinion. I do understand and very much sympathize with you.
But I am so much in love with all of this world. It makes me cry. It truly does.
And you have been there too, I know you have.
Do not get me wrong, I am very much with you. And I agree with most you have to say about the subject of religion. Indeed it is too bad such a truly beautiful thing (the origins of any religion) was corrupted.
I really feel sorry.
Thats why I still hope we can educate and influence ourselves and others, or otherwise make 'us and them' more tolerant in some more neutral and new way. So to create more momentum for unity. I believe in Holland this is working out (relatively) nice (though slowy). Most christians here (even the dumb-ass) are (have become) WAY more tolerant then lets say in the US. Maybe we CAN go back to the roots and original ideas of religion. But when we keep on tearing open old wounds, claiming (relatively) innocent followers are responsible (or otherwise making them feel bad, words will be taken personally, and will be misinterpreted), we wont get anywhere. Though truly justified to look at all the horror religion has brought us (and we should never forget), it would be a dead end. The sword will cut both ways. And the gap will bleed us all to death. We will be distracted (from unity), frustrated and confused and wont be able to deal with the other dangers that lie ahead, in the future of mankind. We really need to work together some way or the other. We do not know how much time we have left. So lets get started. Unity is the answer. And since we all seem to agree on that one, perhaps focus on that one. It is THE common denominator.
Forgive me if I am being to mild in your opinion. I do understand and very much sympathize with you.
But I am so much in love with all of this world. It makes me cry. It truly does.
And you have been there too, I know you have.
I don't care whether Christianity is a myth or not, whether Jesus was a real person or not (OK, if I'm in my Christian mode I do, but put that aside for a moment).
What I care about is that the entire western world is under the influence of the Christian myth. I want to know the truth. I want to get rid of contamination, of falsity, which - when governing the minds of those in control - leads our world into destruction. Distancing myself from the central life/death questions by going into academic discussions about historical facts won't do anything. I have to go in and see it for myself. And that's what I did.
I went to a church, one of the extreme kind and tried to immerse myself in it and their truth as much as possible, to find out whether it is real or not. I knew that I was in danger of being manipulated, but I didn't care, so much I wanted to know. What the heck, I allowed myself to be converted, I "gave my life", as they requested, because I thought that holding onto my egoistic mind gave me nothing, it was not worth protecting. A practice of letting go, if you will.
And by doing this, Christianity opened up for me. God really answered, although whether I take the answers as illusions, fantasies, wishful thinking or actual truth *entirely* depended on me (just as with psychedelic experiences!!!). This was my choice. And I experienced something like not being pure enough to receive yet what Christianity has to offer. I saw that there is a "devil" inside me and I'm a follower of this devil and I cannot get rid of it, however much I want (I'm attracted to its cunning ways). So I came back to this world and went on my route. I'm still out here, hoping to get back one day, when I'm ready.
What I care about is that the entire western world is under the influence of the Christian myth. I want to know the truth. I want to get rid of contamination, of falsity, which - when governing the minds of those in control - leads our world into destruction. Distancing myself from the central life/death questions by going into academic discussions about historical facts won't do anything. I have to go in and see it for myself. And that's what I did.
I went to a church, one of the extreme kind and tried to immerse myself in it and their truth as much as possible, to find out whether it is real or not. I knew that I was in danger of being manipulated, but I didn't care, so much I wanted to know. What the heck, I allowed myself to be converted, I "gave my life", as they requested, because I thought that holding onto my egoistic mind gave me nothing, it was not worth protecting. A practice of letting go, if you will.
And by doing this, Christianity opened up for me. God really answered, although whether I take the answers as illusions, fantasies, wishful thinking or actual truth *entirely* depended on me (just as with psychedelic experiences!!!). This was my choice. And I experienced something like not being pure enough to receive yet what Christianity has to offer. I saw that there is a "devil" inside me and I'm a follower of this devil and I cannot get rid of it, however much I want (I'm attracted to its cunning ways). So I came back to this world and went on my route. I'm still out here, hoping to get back one day, when I'm ready.
"What I care about is that the entire western world is under the influence of the Christian myth."
Exactly..and it hold back our culture in soooo many ways..
I am going to try to stay on topic and relate that to hyperspace entities..
I once had a very powerful mushrooms experience..one of the most influential psychedelic experiences of my life. 3 angle/pixie beings appeared in my room hovering over me in the dark, they were singing to me over and over about how it was all about myth..we NEED new myths to inspire new generations..
Everything is myth really..even the big bang..THAT is the scientific creation myth, and the one we are taught to believe in school. Now, I am not saying that it's wrong persay or that i dont believe in it..but the way it is told(not always but most of the time) is very cold, impersonal and I dont think it inspires much in the minds of the kids who it is taught to.
When I think about science, life, the big beang..everything it is all so beautiful..life is so special just as it is..it's all so damn amazing..to hear the birds sing in the moring as the sun rises over the mountins..to sit and watch the sun set at night as it slips over the horizon of the huge ocean...every time I paddle out and catch a wave I can't help but have tears in my eyes over the beauty of it all..the whole thing is a damn miracle..
Myth is about a way of seeing the world..an art..an art of description..
Tell kids they are beautiful and teach them that..teach them how special this place is and they will continue to see that and KNOW that. Tell them we are just a bunch of molecules and that's it and they will believe it..that is all they will see(until something opens them up and they see how amzing it all is)
That is the power of myth and language..the power of description..
Every time I think of that trip I think of the move "The never ending story" haha I know lame:d
But it makes so much sense to me..in the movie kids stopped reading the old books and believing in the old stories and fairy tales and were losing imagination..so the mythical world Fantasia was falling apart..it was dying. This is what is happening to our world.
I see alot of the right wing conservative christain ideals completely infused from the bottom up in our culture today..from the school system right up to the highest aspects of government and lawmakers..
These old christian values(and I am starting to not like calling them christian even becasue I dontt hink they are true to the word) are everywhere today, even among people who dont believe in god..the tabboos still stand.
We are in desperate need of giving the children new values and ideaologies to hold onto..new myths and a new way of viewing this journey we call life..the Gaian hypothesis is the beginning of this I think. It's all about how we see ourselves in relation to everything else..
Christianity today makes people fel they have some need to be saved..like they are somehow less pure..no worthy..I think that is dangerous and complete BS. We are alreay here..why are we not worthy? IMO we should be embracing our humanity for what it is and rejoicing..not putting outsleves down and oppression parts of ourselves..feeling guilty and shitty about every little detail we dont like..we are all perfect the way we are.
So thats probabily the most important thing I have ever gotten out of all the journeys I have taken. I have no idea as to where these beings came from..weather parts of my own psyche or some kind of extra dimensional beings..but it doesnt matter. What they told me was the important thing and it's something I have never ever been able to forget. It was one of the most beautiful nights of my life.
Exactly..and it hold back our culture in soooo many ways..
I am going to try to stay on topic and relate that to hyperspace entities..
I once had a very powerful mushrooms experience..one of the most influential psychedelic experiences of my life. 3 angle/pixie beings appeared in my room hovering over me in the dark, they were singing to me over and over about how it was all about myth..we NEED new myths to inspire new generations..
Everything is myth really..even the big bang..THAT is the scientific creation myth, and the one we are taught to believe in school. Now, I am not saying that it's wrong persay or that i dont believe in it..but the way it is told(not always but most of the time) is very cold, impersonal and I dont think it inspires much in the minds of the kids who it is taught to.
When I think about science, life, the big beang..everything it is all so beautiful..life is so special just as it is..it's all so damn amazing..to hear the birds sing in the moring as the sun rises over the mountins..to sit and watch the sun set at night as it slips over the horizon of the huge ocean...every time I paddle out and catch a wave I can't help but have tears in my eyes over the beauty of it all..the whole thing is a damn miracle..
Myth is about a way of seeing the world..an art..an art of description..
Tell kids they are beautiful and teach them that..teach them how special this place is and they will continue to see that and KNOW that. Tell them we are just a bunch of molecules and that's it and they will believe it..that is all they will see(until something opens them up and they see how amzing it all is)
That is the power of myth and language..the power of description..
Every time I think of that trip I think of the move "The never ending story" haha I know lame:d
But it makes so much sense to me..in the movie kids stopped reading the old books and believing in the old stories and fairy tales and were losing imagination..so the mythical world Fantasia was falling apart..it was dying. This is what is happening to our world.
I see alot of the right wing conservative christain ideals completely infused from the bottom up in our culture today..from the school system right up to the highest aspects of government and lawmakers..
These old christian values(and I am starting to not like calling them christian even becasue I dontt hink they are true to the word) are everywhere today, even among people who dont believe in god..the tabboos still stand.
We are in desperate need of giving the children new values and ideaologies to hold onto..new myths and a new way of viewing this journey we call life..the Gaian hypothesis is the beginning of this I think. It's all about how we see ourselves in relation to everything else..
Christianity today makes people fel they have some need to be saved..like they are somehow less pure..no worthy..I think that is dangerous and complete BS. We are alreay here..why are we not worthy? IMO we should be embracing our humanity for what it is and rejoicing..not putting outsleves down and oppression parts of ourselves..feeling guilty and shitty about every little detail we dont like..we are all perfect the way we are.
So thats probabily the most important thing I have ever gotten out of all the journeys I have taken. I have no idea as to where these beings came from..weather parts of my own psyche or some kind of extra dimensional beings..but it doesnt matter. What they told me was the important thing and it's something I have never ever been able to forget. It was one of the most beautiful nights of my life.
Citta
Skepdick
Well said my friend, well said indeed.
We are moving in such a wrong direction, and people DO NOT acknowledge what is RIGHT in front of their eyes. We are in so many ways through society and all the sosializing we have to endure in our childhood being tricked away from the fact that what we are a part of here is UTTERLY sacred, miraculous and beyond anything you can ever believe in. I mean, you ARE. And so is the stuff around you, together with you, and you are synonymous with it. It almost gets me scared to see how locked up people are, how they do not see this because they are too busy with everything else.
I remember talking to a friend of mine while walking out at night. I started talking about these things and that in fact she is a part of everything and not separate from it, and she was totally blown out of her socks by just my words. She started looking around, looking at me, looking at the stars. She told me she didn't think like this at all, and this is a good example of one of the many society induced damages people get from growing up in our culture that has been greatly influenced by the monotheistic reality model that later crashed with the progression of science. Before science we were a product of something separate from ourselves, now that science has evolved so far it has become in certain places "trendy" to be an atheist and separate from everything else. Try talking to people about this and they will probably either just neglect it, or you will see their eyes change.
I am not saying people do not enjoy their lives, because many do, but there are things to be done and changed, but first the perspective of ourselves and reality must be changed. We create our own reality according to the nature of our thinking that in turn leads to action, and much of our thinking is totally insane - so the world turns insane. You don't need to be a genious to see this, because the world is in the shape it is in because of our own making - nothing else. And we have the power to turn it into paradise.
Call all of this I've been saying insanity but I don't really give shit, it is a good and beneficial insanity that everyone should be having if the world is to be moving the right way again.
Sorry for going so off-topic, but the discussion is good nevertheless I think. But in the end we don't seem to really know anything at all, as endlessness nicely put it.
We are moving in such a wrong direction, and people DO NOT acknowledge what is RIGHT in front of their eyes. We are in so many ways through society and all the sosializing we have to endure in our childhood being tricked away from the fact that what we are a part of here is UTTERLY sacred, miraculous and beyond anything you can ever believe in. I mean, you ARE. And so is the stuff around you, together with you, and you are synonymous with it. It almost gets me scared to see how locked up people are, how they do not see this because they are too busy with everything else.
I remember talking to a friend of mine while walking out at night. I started talking about these things and that in fact she is a part of everything and not separate from it, and she was totally blown out of her socks by just my words. She started looking around, looking at me, looking at the stars. She told me she didn't think like this at all, and this is a good example of one of the many society induced damages people get from growing up in our culture that has been greatly influenced by the monotheistic reality model that later crashed with the progression of science. Before science we were a product of something separate from ourselves, now that science has evolved so far it has become in certain places "trendy" to be an atheist and separate from everything else. Try talking to people about this and they will probably either just neglect it, or you will see their eyes change.
I am not saying people do not enjoy their lives, because many do, but there are things to be done and changed, but first the perspective of ourselves and reality must be changed. We create our own reality according to the nature of our thinking that in turn leads to action, and much of our thinking is totally insane - so the world turns insane. You don't need to be a genious to see this, because the world is in the shape it is in because of our own making - nothing else. And we have the power to turn it into paradise.
Call all of this I've been saying insanity but I don't really give shit, it is a good and beneficial insanity that everyone should be having if the world is to be moving the right way again.
Sorry for going so off-topic, but the discussion is good nevertheless I think. But in the end we don't seem to really know anything at all, as endlessness nicely put it.
Spinoza once said:
‘I do not know how to teach philosophy without becoming a disturber of established religion.’
Well, also this man is talking about God as everything. Of course he was not the first to have such an idea (modern man already knew roughly 35.000 years before Spinoza was born) but if I am not mistaken he tried to explain the Old Testament in a way that was more liberal. He may not have succeeded, but he tried and got some things moving (I have no doubt about it, but also I have no proof of it). In this way everything is in motion. I would like to say evolving. By which I mean also religion is evolving. And we are here taking part in it. So I say cheers to all of us, and all there is. And let’s have a closer look at it all ; )
But no matter how positive and peaceful I would like it all to be, a part of the religious system will always be trying to gain and maintain power over peoples mind, will and knowledge. There will be abuse, corruption and allot of confusion. As if it is directed this way. There are places we should look on this earth, to understand more about ourselves and our beliefs. We can’t. Were not allowed. Religion does not want us to go there.
Some questions should then arise:
Who exactly is pulling the strings here?
Yes it is time to get some extraterrestrials involved here. What the heck, why not… : )
Those UFO’s, they are encountered all over the world on a regular basis. I checked the results of UFO sightings in my home town, and sure there are many reportss. Sometimes groups of people see them and report them. Also allot of pilots (military) that have seen UFO’s. And yes, even my sister (about 12 at the time) told me see has seen one. Just above the house were we used to live in. If I had opened the curtains in my room at that moment in the night (my room was next to hers) then I would have seen it too. What the hell is going on? I really would like to see for myself. And I have to do more reading on the subject. It is so interesting I can’t ignore it. What an impact it would have to see an UFO!!! Can you imagine?!
The list of reports and studies is endless. To be ignored in this discussion about spice entities? (and religion ; ) Are all those eye witnesses suffering delusion? Real hallucinations? I’m having a hard time to have those on shroomies, but they were probably sober!! And what about all the reports of similar sort of sightings? The UFO’s are in a lot of trip reports too. Also the history of christian religion is full of hints of strange surrealistic things happening again and again. There are spaceships in the holy books. And they are also in the cave art of early modern man.
So guys. Who is pulling the strings? Is it just a bunch of real selfish and greedy people that want to play God, or just get more of something? Or is there something that is not shown to us (fully/yet)?
I like the ideas of Acolyte:
‘This idea of a third symbiote is relatively new to me, though one I had arrived to from my UFO studies. I had hypothesized that a truly advanced race visiting the Earth ought easily have the technology to fully read and control human minds (like a committee of sybiotes), but that ethically, they would do so only to the bare and absolute minimum.’
‘I do not know how to teach philosophy without becoming a disturber of established religion.’
Well, also this man is talking about God as everything. Of course he was not the first to have such an idea (modern man already knew roughly 35.000 years before Spinoza was born) but if I am not mistaken he tried to explain the Old Testament in a way that was more liberal. He may not have succeeded, but he tried and got some things moving (I have no doubt about it, but also I have no proof of it). In this way everything is in motion. I would like to say evolving. By which I mean also religion is evolving. And we are here taking part in it. So I say cheers to all of us, and all there is. And let’s have a closer look at it all ; )
But no matter how positive and peaceful I would like it all to be, a part of the religious system will always be trying to gain and maintain power over peoples mind, will and knowledge. There will be abuse, corruption and allot of confusion. As if it is directed this way. There are places we should look on this earth, to understand more about ourselves and our beliefs. We can’t. Were not allowed. Religion does not want us to go there.
Some questions should then arise:
Who exactly is pulling the strings here?
Yes it is time to get some extraterrestrials involved here. What the heck, why not… : )
Those UFO’s, they are encountered all over the world on a regular basis. I checked the results of UFO sightings in my home town, and sure there are many reportss. Sometimes groups of people see them and report them. Also allot of pilots (military) that have seen UFO’s. And yes, even my sister (about 12 at the time) told me see has seen one. Just above the house were we used to live in. If I had opened the curtains in my room at that moment in the night (my room was next to hers) then I would have seen it too. What the hell is going on? I really would like to see for myself. And I have to do more reading on the subject. It is so interesting I can’t ignore it. What an impact it would have to see an UFO!!! Can you imagine?!
The list of reports and studies is endless. To be ignored in this discussion about spice entities? (and religion ; ) Are all those eye witnesses suffering delusion? Real hallucinations? I’m having a hard time to have those on shroomies, but they were probably sober!! And what about all the reports of similar sort of sightings? The UFO’s are in a lot of trip reports too. Also the history of christian religion is full of hints of strange surrealistic things happening again and again. There are spaceships in the holy books. And they are also in the cave art of early modern man.
So guys. Who is pulling the strings? Is it just a bunch of real selfish and greedy people that want to play God, or just get more of something? Or is there something that is not shown to us (fully/yet)?
I like the ideas of Acolyte:
‘This idea of a third symbiote is relatively new to me, though one I had arrived to from my UFO studies. I had hypothesized that a truly advanced race visiting the Earth ought easily have the technology to fully read and control human minds (like a committee of sybiotes), but that ethically, they would do so only to the bare and absolute minimum.’
Btw in the archive there is a textfile 'Interpretations of dmt reality'.
The paper describes some experiments that could be used to test if the dmt reality (and the hyperspace entities) are real.
Anyone scientifically interested in the subject should read it.
One of the tests that are proposed could be carried out by the people at the dmt-nexus.
The synchronised hyperspace event would provide an excellent platform for this test.
Any1 seriously busy with this?
We should be....
The paper describes some experiments that could be used to test if the dmt reality (and the hyperspace entities) are real.
Anyone scientifically interested in the subject should read it.
One of the tests that are proposed could be carried out by the people at the dmt-nexus.
The synchronised hyperspace event would provide an excellent platform for this test.
Any1 seriously busy with this?
We should be....