2018 Farm Bill THC-A loophole

[Mitakuye Oyasin]

Thanks to the 2018 Farm Bill and its THC-A loophole I just got a legal out-of-state shipment of dense Indica nugs mailed directly to me. 33% THC-A but only 0.16% Delta9 THC, so fits under current Federal legal definition of Hemp. Currently have a very strong stone on from this beautiful smelling and tasting dank Indica dominant flowers. Never thought I'd see the day when this was possible. Hope more magical legal loopholes happen in the near future.

 

[brokedownpalace10]

Sounds great!
We've discussed how they will likely put out this fire eventually. However, the more things like this happen and the more fires they have to put out with the public seeing that civilization did not crumble, the closer we will get to legalization. The DEA actually proposed rescheduling Marijuana and Biden is likely to move quickly on that before the election. My state just finally legalized rec, and it's a red state. Good luck with your state and keep the faith.

 

[Mitakuye Oyasin]

This is just one vendor who is willing to use to 2018 Farm Bill to legally ship Cannabis across state lines, but there are others. They do have a warning of which states have raised issues about this, so they have exempted them from shipping. Not sure if all vendors use the same states or not. The warning is cut and pasted below.

THCA Shipping Disclaimer: This product is not available for shipment to the following states: Hawaii, Idaho, Minnesota, Oregon, Rhode Island, Utah, and Vermont.

 

[brokedownpalace10]

This is just one vendor who is willing to use to 2018 Farm Bill to legally ship Cannabis across state lines, but there are others. They do have a warning of which states have raised issues about this, so they have exempted them from shipping. Not sure if all vendors use the same states or not. The warning is cut and pasted below.

THCA Shipping Disclaimer: This product is not available for shipment to the following states: Hawaii, Idaho, Minnesota, Oregon, Rhode Island, Utah, and Vermont.

All but Utah and Idaho are fully legal states. We can't cut into profits, you know. My state just legalized and they are already moving to make all the grey area cannabinoids illegal.
I'm not trying to rain on your parade, just being informational. I was following this stuff closely before my state legalized. I hope your state follows suit and I hope my state doesn't screw this up. It's not for sale yet and they are talking about changing the will of the voters and making the laws more restrictive.

 

[Mitakuye Oyasin]

My state was the first state to legalize medical cannabis way back in 1996. Not sure what reason this vendor has for not shipping to certain states, but if congress critters or LEO's put up a stink vendors will most likely start avoiding them. Would be nice to have something Federal so all states could take part and profit from the medicine. Hope to see that one day soon.

 

[Mitakuye Oyasin]

I have been vaping THCA diamonds recently and very much enjoying the clean pure high head and body space. Does not seem to work as well on dulling the pain that full spectrum extracts do, but for me it is easy to just add some full spectrum extract along with the THCA crystals if and when I need a little extra pain control. I've been using a Puffco Peak and the hits are smooth and consistent. The best part is that I can order these THCA diamonds online and have them shipped to me in the mail. I've turned on my friends in other states on to this as well and they have had no problems receiving these through the mail in the USA. I know some states will not allow Delta-8 THC, but so far have not heard of any states not allowing THCA deliveries. Pretty wild time to be living in. Hopefully full Federal legalization or decrim will be a reality very soon. Feels like the time is right. Let the medicine flow free and legal.

 

[brokedownpalace10]

I was ordering THCA isolate, which was a white powder. It gave a clean and up high as you say, but it seemed to kinda be missing something and more importantly raised my tolerance to flower quickly.
I ordered, rather cheaply, from the same company some CBD isolate and added that to my mix. It made a big difference. Took less to "get there", more pain relief, yadda. I think that adding other stuff like CBG, CBN, etc. would have improved things even more but I'm done experimenting and now just mix what I have left of my smoking mixture with actual flower and it seems to work quite well.
The entourage effect is real.

(My "mixture" consists of adding these isolates to a bag of swag.)

 

[Mitakuye Oyasin]

That's great. The entourage effect IS real. Keep experimenting to find what works best for you. Every body is different. I've had Cannabis "experts" tell me there is no difference between Sativa and Indica strains and I can tell them to give me a random sample of something and I will tell you which one is the I and which one is the S every time. Sativa acts like a double expresso on me every time. Cannot use S after the sun goes down or no sleep for me that night. Every body is different. Find what works best for you.

 

[brokedownpalace10]

That's great. The entourage effect IS real. Keep experimenting to find what works best for you. Every body is different. I've had Cannabis "experts" tell me there is no difference between Sativa and Indica strains and I can tell them to give me a random sample of something and I will tell you which one is the I and which one is the S every time. Sativa acts like a double expresso on me every time. Cannot use S after the sun goes down or no sleep for me that night. Every body is different. Find what works best for you.

All the articles which say "there is no difference between Sativa and Indica" are being read too quickly and are being kind of misquoted. (most come from one original article) A closer reading will show they say that there has been so much breeding and cross breeding that there is little difference between pot called Sativa and called Indica nowadays. Which is often true.

The gene pool has been combined and recombined so much that you can have a strain that is 70% Indica which has a fairly up high and vise versa. Just as you can have an American who is mostly Italian who is born with blue eyes in our melting pot, once there are many crosses and back crosses you lose a lot of the "land race" tendencies.

I'm 69 years old and I remember when Indica first came around. People noticed the difference in high and commented on it. High Times had articles bemoaning the loss of the pure Sativa high in American sinse. I wish I could give people who say the land races are the same some of the good Hawaiian sinse I used to get occasionally.

If there is no difference in the land races then why has so much attention been given to breeding Sativa into Indica since the ease of growing is so superior in Indica?

A lot of the "mostly Indica" or "mostly Sativa"... yeah I can easily tell the difference. Even then, not all. A lot of the "tends Sativa" or "tends Indica" is very homogeneous. It's what I sometimes call "Cannabis americanus" instead of Cannabis sativa or Cannabis indica.

 

[Mitakuye Oyasin]

It is such an amazing, giving, healing plant. I've grown some almost pure Sativa (Kali Mist) that have a soaring energetic high. I loved it. One of the most amazing strains I've even had was grown in Alaska in the remote Matanuska valley. The growing season is super long because of the sun angle and amount of sun per day. Plus the soil of the area is volcanic and the river water allows everything to grow prehistoric looking large. Cabbage grows larger than basketballs, pumpkins grow to hundreds of pounds, brusstle's sprouts like softballs, beefsteak tomatoes 8-10 inches around. The Sativa strain they grew was a 70/30 S/I that was a Skunk#1 cross with a Northers Lights. These monsters grew up to 18-20 feet high. They called it Matanuska Thunderfuck. In 1987 when I got a few ounces from an alaskan grower, it clocked in at 29% THC. The honey oil from this grow was some of the most incredibly fragrant and tasty concentrates I've ever had. Just a bit of this honey oil rubbed onto the paper of a cigarette got 3 sober people very high. One of the best strains i've ever had. I have tried supposed "Thunderfuck" strains at various dispensaries but nothing ever came close to that original strain.

 

[brokedownpalace10]

It is such an amazing, giving, healing plant. I've grown some almost pure Sativa (Kali Mist) that have a soaring energetic high. I loved it. One of the most amazing strains I've even had was grown in Alaska in the remote Matanuska valley. The growing season is super long because of the sun angle and amount of sun per day. Plus the soil of the area is volcanic and the river water allows everything to grow prehistoric looking large. Cabbage grows larger than basketballs, pumpkins grow to hundreds of pounds, brusstle's sprouts like softballs, beefsteak tomatoes 8-10 inches around. The Sativa strain they grew was a 70/30 S/I that was a Skunk#1 cross with a Northers Lights. These monsters grew up to 18-20 feet high. They called it Matanuska Thunderfuck. In 1987 when I got a few ounces from an alaskan grower, it clocked in at 29% THC. The honey oil from this grow was some of the most incredibly fragrant and tasty concentrates I've ever had. Just a bit of this honey oil rubbed onto the paper of a cigarette got 3 sober people very high. One of the best strains i've ever had. I have tried supposed "Thunderfuck" strains at various dispensaries but nothing ever came close to that original strain.

The best I had in the day was Columbian Redbud (Panama is just north of Columbia and used to be part of it).

"the judge don't know when red's in town
he keeps well hidden underground
but everybody's acting lazy
falling out and hangin' 'round"

Once it all started to be grown domestically, the original Skunk #1 was indeed freaking good. I think there's supposed to be a lot of Skunk #1 lurking deep in today's genetics.
Acapulco Gold, plus Columbian Gold, plus Afghani. What's not to like?
Lately, Green Crack is a great Sativa high. (Skunk #1 plus some unknown Indica) However, they say there is a phenotype which leans more toward the Indica in the high.

 

[Egzoset]

Lets have a closer look at the "federal legal definition of hemp" consecutive to the « Farm Bill »:

[ https:// www.congress.gov/115/bills/hr2/BILLS-115hr2enr.pdf ]​

Agriculture Improvement Act of 2018​

​

Sec. 297A. Definitions (p419/529)​

​

« HEMP — The term ‘hemp’ means the plant Cannabis sativa L. and any part of that plant, including the seeds thereof and all derivatives, extracts, cannabinoids, isomers, acids, salts, and salts of isomers, whether growing or not, with a delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol concentration of not more than 0.3 percent on a dry weight basis. »​

This defininition as "HEMP" of "Cannabis sativa L." with a ∆9-THC concentration less than 0.3 % (dry) was reflecting the joint UN/WHO declaration on CBD of December 14 2017, which somehow can't be found easily via a basic Google Search anymore:

« Current evidence also shows that cannabidiol is not likely to be abused or create dependence as for other cannabinoids (such as Tetra Hydro Cannabinol (THC), for instance). »​

Ref.:

[ https:// www.who.int/news-room/questions-and-answers/item/cannabidiol-(compound-of-cannabis) ]​

Drugs (psychoactive): Cannabidiol (compound of cannabis) [2017-Dec-19]​

In other words this was about the medi¢alization of "marihuana" confirmed through pharma¢euti¢al purpo$es of therapeuti¢ value, while THC demonization got re-inforced. It was initially one more denaturation attempt intended to marginalize the noble plant and its consumers as $i¢k 'n $ad, with all the stigmatization and associated consequences coming with it which the ill 'Norml' strategy only managed to amplify when in fact the only honorable & decent choice should be to defend a natural right to personal EMANCIPATION free of 3rd-party predatory attitude$...

 

[Mitakuye Oyasin]

Not sure why you are so hung up on anything the UN/WHO have to say or do. You should do a deep dive on who and what they both are and what their agendas are. Neither org are good. According to the 2018 USA Farm Bill THC-A is legal in 50 states. Buds with less than .3% Delta 9 are legal, no matter how much THC-A they contain. A good start towards full Federal legalization or decriminalization in the USA.

 

[Mitakuye Oyasin]

brokedownpalace10. Yes, I remember Panama Red. Good heady stuff. "Panama Red, Panama Red, he'll steal your woman, then he'll rob your head, Panama Red."

I only was able to get real Thai Stick once, but on a trip through Berkeley I hooked up with a Rastafarian who had an once of authentic Thai Stick. Looked like dark chewing tobacco tied to a stick. Was a very high % Sativa coated in Opium, super sticky. Was only able to get an eighth, but he also smoked me and my friend out from his stash and man I was useless for the next few hours. Seeing in TV cartoon colors and shapes, laughing uncontrollably, super cotton mouth, eyes blazing red. Too bad we can't get that stuff anymore.

 

[Egzoset]

Not sure why you are so hung up on anything the UN/WHO have to say or do.

Not sure why you are so hung up on ignoring/rejecting anything the UN/WHO have to say or do.

 

[Mitakuye Oyasin]

Why put any trust in completely untrustworthy global control organizations? Look into UN and thousands of rapes in multiple countries. Evil orgs, both of them.

 

[Egzoset]

If the people here weren't so quick at judging on content instead of identity then maybe it would leave some more space to rational exchanges.

Who said Egzoset (or the guy behind...) ever put any trust in the UN?? Our respective politi¢ian$ do and that was the point i tried to make, in vain.

 

[Varallo]

Lets have a closer look at the "federal legal definition of hemp" consecutive to the « Farm Bill »:

[ https:// www.congress.gov/115/bills/hr2/BILLS-115hr2enr.pdf ]​

Agriculture Improvement Act of 2018​

​

Sec. 297A. Definitions (p419/529)​

​

« HEMP — The term ‘hemp’ means the plant Cannabis sativa L. and any part of that plant, including the seeds thereof and all derivatives, extracts, cannabinoids, isomers, acids, salts, and salts of isomers, whether growing or not, with a delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol concentration of not more than 0.3 percent on a dry weight basis. »​

This defininition as "HEMP" of "Cannabis sativa L." with a ∆9-THC concentration less than 0.3 % (dry) was reflecting the joint UN/WHO declaration on CBD of December 14 2017, which somehow can't be found easily via a basic Google Search anymore:

« Current evidence also shows that cannabidiol is not likely to be abused or create dependence as for other cannabinoids (such as Tetra Hydro Cannabinol (THC), for instance). »​

Ref.:

[ https:// www.who.int/news-room/questions-and-answers/item/cannabidiol-(compound-of-cannabis) ]​

Drugs (psychoactive): Cannabidiol (compound of cannabis) [2017-Dec-19]​

In other words this was about the medi¢alization of "marihuana" confirmed through pharma¢euti¢al purpo$es of therapeuti¢ value, while THC demonization got re-inforced. It was initially one more denaturation attempt intended to marginalize the noble plant and its consumers as $i¢k 'n $ad, with all the stigmatization and associated consequences coming with it which the ill 'Norml' strategy only managed to amplify when in fact the only honorable & decent choice should be to defend a natural right to personal EMANCIPATION free of 3rd-party predatory attitude$...

The Farm Bill's federal definition of hemp is based on U.S. law and is independent of any UN or WHO declarations. The U.S. government's decisions on hemp are not directly tied to international declarations the legal distinctions between hemp and marijuana. The Farm Bill was designed to legalize hemp, and define what is called hemp, for industrial and commercial purposes, not to stigmatize marijuana users.

 

[Egzoset]

How can anyone pretend to understand a problem when they refuse to go to its roots?

The 0.3 % THC limit for any cannabis says enough.

 

[Mitakuye Oyasin]

That 0.3 % THC limit most likely came from the US FDA, compendiums of studies paid for by US and Israel Big Pharma and a recent survey (2005-2015) of more than 550 US healthcare providers across neurology, physiatry, internal medicine and pediatrics published in Neurology Reviews found that more than half of responders believe the statement "0.3% THC has been clinically proven as safe" to be true. If you have any evidence that the UN came up with these limits internally I'd like to see the evidence. 've traveled pretty extensively and the UN and WHO are universally loathed and mistrusted by the people of multiple countries because both orgs seek to strip legal and medical sovereignty away from the people and their governments.