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24 hours since breakthrough, but some lasting effects. Hoping for words of encouragement

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Even more than the cannabis it's coffee that is the problem

If you drink a full cup of coffee, now drink only a quarter cup at a time, I don't mean just for now I mean forever

Before DMT I used to drink a full cup of coffee three times a day, now I only drink quarter cup three times a day with a gap of 6 hours in between, DMT changed my coffee intake permanently........ I keep smoking cannabis throught the day , that has never changed and never been a problem

Caffiene is probably the worst drug on the planet but at very low doses it's the best to keep us a little energetic and awake, I never quit coffee totally as otherwise I feel weird so i drink now only little bit compared to earlier

Try drinking only quarter cup every 6 hours...... You'll feel the difference.... You might feel so good you might keep smoking cannabis all day

Edit: quarter cup means quarter the dose of coffee too, not just less water/milk
 
Thanks I will reduce my caffeine intake today and see how that goes overall.

I woke up this morning similar to how I have the past few mornings. Disoriented, sensitive to light and feeling high. But time not feeling so long.

What has happened each day from here would usually go like this:
Have 2 coffees around 9:30AM and start busying myself. Usually by noon I will sreally feel time starting to going slow and feel more disorientated….I subsequently freak out and maybe even start to have a panic attack. I eventually calm myself but will still feel incredibly off.

By around 5 or 6pm I feel like I am balancing out. I would also have a coffee around dinner. As the night progressed I get better and better, till I am almost feel normal before bed. Then I go to sleep, have crazy vivid dreams, and wake up and the cycle repeats.

My sincere apologies for being nuisance, thanks to everyone for continue to take an interest. I don’t even know what I am looking for other than the fact that I can share here and have positive and constructive feedback. Does anyone know of anyone else whose had it this bad after DMT? I just can’t make sense of it all.

Meditation has been difficult, I will continue to try, but I have found it difficult to be so inwardly quiet and not have all the panic and concerns surface.

My goal today is not to have a perfect day, but to just try to have a slightly better day.
 
Yeah forgot about caffeine, after mushies spanked me canna+coffee combo became much more anxiety inducing, almost to a point of panic pangs, temporarily though.

Try not to worry and count days, my return to baseline took years lol

But you should be fine much much sooner.
 
Yes, caffeine appears to have been at least a contributing factor to the severe panic that I was having. That was great advice Jin. I waited hours to have a coffee today and had 1/3 of what I usually would. I could feel the tingling in my hands and blood pressure rise soon after. But it didn’t get bad because I had so little.

Exitwound, you said it took years to get to baseline? Would you be able to describe that better to me? Do you mean you saw major improvements early on, but lingering effects for years? Or was it much slower to get semi-normal? Would you be able to describe it better for me? I’d find that really helpful. I have had periods the last few days where I almost feel normal but get pulled back in again, particularly I appear to reset to being disoriented after sleeping, was any of this the case for you? How did you manage?

Also, I have booked an online session with a counsellor who specializes in post-psychedelic therapy to hopefully get professional guidance.
 
It will not take years or months, just a few days to go away

Many people get disoriented particularly in the morning anyways, especially those who dream heavily as transitioning between realities has that effect but this too fades away in a while

Don't worry at all man, there is nothing to worry about

Instead of focusing on making the aftereffects disappear just focus on regular activity and normal work and life, the effects subside very quickly if you get involved with life and forget about it

The more you get involved with your life the faster it will disappear, just take it easy on the caffiene, all will be better very fast

Just keep doing things you enjoy and dont worry at all, stress is the number one killer of everything, enjoying even aftereffects Or what you're experiencing is better than stressing about it, stress will not help at all

Edit: also don't wait hours after waking up to have a coffee, this is why disorientation persisted longer for you just drink quarter cup immediately on waking up, on lower doses caffiene is excellent for everything,
 
Jin that makes me feel great thank you! And I’ll make sure to have the 1/4 cup of coffee when I get up like I usually would do. Today was a bit better already. Thank you :)
 
Joeyjoejoe1553 said:
Exitwound, you said it took years to get to baseline? Would you be able to describe that better to me? Do you mean you saw major improvements early on, but lingering effects for years? Or was it much slower to get semi-normal? Would you be able to describe it better for me? I’d find that really helpful. I have had periods the last few days where I almost feel normal but get pulled back in again, particularly I appear to reset to being disoriented after sleeping, was any of this the case for you? How did you manage?
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Yes, stronger part of side-effects subsides very quickly, but subtle remains for quite long with you.
It is as if when you break throuh, you are making veil between hyperspace and daily life thinner. If you continue using at this point, it becomes easier to BT with time. Any substances which alter mind states (coffee, cannabis, etc) during this time also have different and potent effect.
After you stop using, this "portal" in you kinda heals and after some time you become as if you haven't smoked (IMHO).

In my case for example weed stayed very psychedelic for at least several months and I had small infrequent flashbacks of the the experience for year+, especially when intoxicated by other means.

I join Jin in the recommendation of not focusing on the effects, but rather focusing on healthy daily things, discomfort will go away. Also counseling is great, just having someone understanding who you can tell your tale is very helpful for integration.
 
Meditation has been difficult, I will continue to try, but I have found it difficult to be so inwardly quiet and not have all the panic and concerns surface
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What panics and concerns surface when you meditate?
 
Hey guys ,
Was going really well the last 2 days. More Normal. Still in that cycle where I wake up a touch groggy, but start feeling well. Then from noon to 3pm I feel time slow a bit but then feel good the rest of the day.

But last night right before bed I got an awful feeling. I then almost had a panic attack but used mediation I found to bring myself down pretty well actually.

Went to sleep listening to affirming stateyments but had a very very very vivid horrific nightmare like I’ve never had before. It’s made this morning very hard. And I’m a bit scared. I thought I was making progress. I felt like I was completely losing my mind for moment and it’s terrifying. That was the worst it’s been yet.

Sorry, just really a bit shaken right now and upset that I haven’t had the process I hoped for.
 
Thanks for saying that. It’s just that dream and how real it was just has shaken me to my core. I felt like I was going crazy. I’m calming down now, but I’m just worried
 
I was just starting to have so much progress and feel more normal. It was going really well, even if it wasn’t perfect and I wasn’t totally normal. I wasn’t expecting such a set back. I’m just at the 5 day mark from the breakthrough. I still have hope in the next several days I’ll get to being more normal.
 
If this is really bothering you it may be prudent to seek professional help.

Might just be me but perhaps letting go of any fixations about normalcy could also be of use. However you see it, the integration process from a particularly intense experience can take a little while. And try dropping by in the chat if you fancy the chance of a more direct interaction with some of us.

Above all, be kind to you.
 
Generally people enjoy these aftereffects and vivid dreams, but from what I read you're not relaxed or enjoying these

Don't worry everyday will only get better

Since these aftereffects haven't dissappeared already for you I feel these aftereffects will persist two to three weeks most strongly , it can take a while sometimes....

Get involved with daily grind, it's hard but try to ignore the mental effects and concentrate on daily tasks, routine, fun activities, be outdoors

It's a good idea to visit a therapist aswell if you're really in a bad place.,.... He might prescribe you medication to come back to normalcy faster , health and safety first.,...... If you're in a really bad place mentally seek help

Edit: there might be setbacks here and there but dont worry, you'll always be making progress
 
Also about meditation - try calmly observing your environment few times a day, the sights, sounds for a few minutes at a time, (calmly observing not forcefully)

This is called situational awareness, and is very helpful to let go
 
Hey everyone, I just wanted to say I’m ok. Thank you for taking so much time to help. I also saw and appreciate the invite to live chat with everyone. That was really kind.

It got rough yesterday morning and realized that I needed to speak to someone right away. I found a psychologist online who was available that day as I knew I couldn’t wait for the appointment with the psychedelic counsellor I had setup for Friday. I was a complete mess.

It turns out by dumb luck the psychologist had done his thesis dealing with psychedelics. I’m pretty certain he had personal experience with pscilyocybin. He was awesome and helped recenter me. I was having disassociation/derealization which led to panic attacks and then anxiety which was making the derealization worse…a nice feedback loop.

He spent quite a bit more time with me than I even paid for. It really really helped. I had the first good night sleep since this started. And today had been about 95% for me. I’m feeling really good and balanced again. And I’m confident if some of the feelings return I have the tools to cope well.

He encouraged me to keep my appointment with the psychedelic counsellor, he actually knew her. I had that today and we were able to have a deep discussion about the experience and the deeper meanings. She was personally familiar with DMT.

I feel much better. In retrospect, I wish I had thought to have an appointment with someone like her the day after the trip. I think it would have put me on a positive path and helped really expand my thoughts while I was still in that very open mind state right after the trip.

I think I’m really seeing some extra positives in how I view the world now and I’m actually glad I had the experience. I may come back here in the future once I’ve had time to rest.

Thank you all for your generosity. It was more than anyone can expect from people they don’t know personally. It was really kind and you clearly have a great community here.
 
That is great news Joey. I'm glad you were able to access some assistance with this situation. You are having a very human experience. Many people find themselves having these kinds of experiences in life. I don't think there are any Nexians here in their right minds that have anything against utilizing psychologists etc. Online via webcam I have appointments with a 'shrink' every 90 days and with a therapist twice per month. As my Grandma once told me when I was very young; One hand washes the other. Stay positive and keep up with appointments. :thumb_up:
 
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