2c-e and body load

[Shiva H. Vishnu]

i've recently acquired a 20mg dose of 2c-e. i've never tried any of the 2cs or even mescaline, but i've read a lot of trip reports and the general consensus is that 2c-e is wonderfully visual, which i like, but that the body load is "difficult compared to other hallucinogens. i can handle what's going on in my head, but being physically uncomfortable for a 12 hour trip just doesn't seem worth it to my almost 40 yr old self. so, the question is, would you nexians consider 2c-e's body load to be a serious detraction from the experience, or is it all -in-all just an annoyance? could the reports of the body load be exaggerated, or is the unpleasantness just a generally accepted facet of the experience?

 

[Korey]

I don't believe most reports of body load are exaggerated at all. I've had around twenty experiences with 2C-E, ranging from 10mg to 60mg and it's just very rough on the body. For me it starts to become quite uncomfortable around the 20mg mark, but everyone is different.

It's not a very interesting substance in my experience. It is astoundingly visual at 25mg, and definitely too much for my body at doses like 50 and 60mg. The body load is unbearable at times, and with doses exceeding 25mg the body load persists for the duration of the experience. There is also problems urinating, and constipation issues. I have had many experiences with 2C-E where I felt like complete poop for many hours due to the body load.

But, I also know a few people who feel persistent euphoria with 2C-E, but most people I know don't.

If I were you I would stick to the compounds that your body completely welcomes.

 

[flouro]

^ seconded, it is definitely not fun and one can get downright miserable too. I would say it is not safe for human consumption since all the bad side-effects and not being all in all a pleasant experience. YMMV and it is up to you to decide what you do to your body...

 

[The Day Tripper]

My one experience with this compound was probably the worst body-load/unpleasant side affects from the 2c-x's I've tried (c,d,i,t-2). I took a bit too high of a dose for my first time, 12mg, but it was interesting and quite unique. Despite the side affects i found it useful, and it has potential in terms of getting something useful/learning from the experience.

The over-stimulation, muscle tension, gastric disturbance, and other side affects just kind of turned me off from it. If you do try it, start low, by low i mean under 10mg.

I plan on trying it again in the future, but for the moment its shelved in favor of novel 4-subb'd tryptamines. I do like how it feels less recreational/hollow, and more insightful than the other 2c-x's though. But i can get that from 2c-d or t-2 without so much side affects.

IMHO, its worth a try, some people love it, but its seems more volatile in how people react to it than the rest of the 2c gang. I agree with shulgin that its difficult, but worthwhile. People tend to underestimate how difficult going into their first experience though, at least i did 12mg caught me off guard. There's potential there though.

And finally, I've heard a few reports from nexians, and some other reports scattered on various sites that 5ht-3 antagonists help make it more bearable. So think lemon oil, ondanserton, ginger, etc.

Just be safe, i would say 20mg is a reckless first time dose assuming you plan on taking the whole capsule. Its far more potent than any of the other 2c-x's ime.

 

[SHroomtroll]

Yeah 2c-e is a specia one indeed, very very interesting headspace and the visuals is just out of this world!

The bodyload though can be a pain in the ass, or inn the back for me

It makes your muscles very tight which flares up a back spasm in me, although ld can do this aswell but not as much.

My recomendation when doing anything with alot of bodyload is to make sure you are in good condition before doing it.

Do yoga or whatever you need to often up your muscles a few days beforehand and eat alot of magnesiium to lessen any cramps.

Also have alot of weed at hand to lessen any vasoconstriction as much as you can.


But yeah imo 2c-e is worth the load at least once to try it.