2C-T-7 Consensus?

[UgraKarma]

I've been reading through a great deal of the literature surrounding highly visual psychedelics, and I keep getting pointed towards 2C-T-7 as one of the most interesting compounds in the canon of substances we can put into our bodies in terms of visual content. My interest lies in the fact that some have placed it as the most visual of all the hallucinogens, and the visual stimuli it does promote is quite different from the somewhat random decorative / patterned / fractalized nature of most of the more standard psychedelics, and that the nature of 2C-T-7's visuals tend to consist of more realistic scenes and figures.

Of course I find this to be an interesting effect but have also read that the drug elicits a pretty uncomfortable body load. I'm wondering if Nexians might be able to share some of their experiences, and even put forward some loose cost / benefit analysis - I'm happy to deal with light body load for what sounds like a pretty unique visual experience, on the flipside consuming datura might have the potential to show me a Broadway show detailing the secrets of life's meaning but you won't see me consuming it any time soon. So I'm just trying to gauge where the novel compound 2C-T-7 might exist on this gradient, and at the end of the day, if it's worth consuming or best to pass?

 

[Coja]

It has a very delayed onset and not overly visual when taken orally at sane doses. Insufflated, it is very visual without nearly as much of the psychological distortion you'd expect from something like mushrooms. However, and this is the big thing, insufflation is extremely painful and often leads to sudden tearing, mucus discharge and forceful vomiting very soon after administration along with very rapid onset of effects which make it difficult to handle and the combination of confusion, pain, and bodily fluid discharge could lead to choking. Additionally, most of the deaths attributed to 2C-T-7 have come about from insufflation. Some of the deaths are suspected to be due to a combination of 2C-T-7 with other drugs (notably MDMA) and it is suspected to have MAOI activity which could contribute to a deadly result with drug combinations, other deaths have been attributed to OD from larger insufflated doses (IIRC there was one death with a 30 mg. dose). It feels like it does some real damage to the nasal cavity. My pre-scheduled status experience with it before it was with an oral dose and insufflated doses of 10 mg. on a few other occasions. Ultimately, while the experience after the first horrendous 15 or so minutes were over was great, I decided that the mortal risk associated with the substance and the apparent physical damage to the sinus cavity was simply not worth the experience. Check out the erowid.org vaults for details on the several deaths related to this substance.

 

[soulfood]

My trials with 2C-T-7 were rather short lived.

My first two trials were with oral administration, first with 9mg and secondly with 15mg. At 9mg the body load seemed neglible, visually they was little activity and there was little stimulation but a nice physical warmth with heightend sensitivity to touch with was quite pleasant. Managed to sleep after T + 10 hours.

15mg was slightly visual and quite different from visuals at threshold with 2cb and 2ci. Almost like the LSD hologram shapes but less frantic with lots of curving of shapes. I imagine at a higher dosage this visual patterning would be quite interesting. On the downside though, this dose made me quite physically uncomfortable involving head pressure and a tension in my lower left leg. I also experienced a slightly negative headspace, although it wasn't overwhelming. All in all it probably felt a little more toxic than I'd prefer. There are a few reports online that reflect this sentiment, though with others they report very little negative effects and even regard it as a fairly sociable drug that's pleasant in a party setting. My preferred setting with 2C's is indoors and controlled so I prefer my sensory intake to be quite low due to the general sensitivity inflicted on seemingly all senses.

I also tried insufflation of the compound on few occasions. I can't list dosage precisely as my scales are not so accurate below 10mg. I generally weighed at 10, cut it into 4 and sniffed maybe 2-3 lines. Here it was more visual but with less psychological effect. Body load was definately still present. The distinct visual character noted orally was lacking.

2cb is probably the only one of these compounds I find to be useful. These days I try to keep the number of substances I use down to a minimal and for a long lasting phen, I generally prefer to stick with mescaline as I find it to be more unique than most other long session substances of a similar class.

I also prefer the visual activity of DOM to 2C-T-7 as it was much more organic, but the physical intensity and duration were a lot to take. Still felt less toxic than t-7 though.