From my personal experience I consider these two chemicals worthless. I've tried both with an relatively careful dosing schedule (although not as careful as my first attempt with 2CB where I consumed 5mg, 9mg, 12mg, 15mg, 17mg, 20mg, 25mg, 27mg—all with multiple weeks between doses).
They were sourced from an online RC vendor, colormetric tests were not conducted (had just determined marquis reagent to be spoiled).
250mg 5-meo-dipt, 100mg 2ct7
I weighed the material on a marijuana scale to get an idea of the weight. They weighed in at 0.2g, and 0.0g (until I added a gel capsules which are known to be ~1/3rd of 0.1g) at which point it went to 0.1g.
I dissolved the powders to a dilution of 20mg/ml. Stored in freezer between uses. I find the 2CT7 gets VERY MILKY at this temperature. I let it thaw before dosing.
My dose schedule and experiences are following:
5-meo-DiPT
Allergy Test — 0.1ml (2mg) dissolved in 1 cup (250ml) of water. water consumed in 125ml portions 1 week apart. No effect.
* 12mg — me and a close friend (after I subjected him to a 1mg allergy test a couple days beforehand) sampled the material at a music festival. It was a slightly overcast morning and the festivities hadn't really begun. It was about 10 am. We laid in big net hammocks as we came up. Extremely slight visual distortion reminiscent of psilocybin. Body felt achey with jaw tension (not clenching just this awful tense feeling). We agreed this substance wasn't what we expected or desired. He completely swore against further research and we basically agreed people had told tall tales of a boring substance. I didn't necessarily out-rule further experimentation. He did. That said we ended up meeting a mate and consuming some modest (~20mg) bumps of ketamine [around +4hrs]. Well I was modest, I'm extremely sensitive and dislike nasal damage. The DiPT was enhanced by this drug. The visuals coalesced to create a new aesthetic unlike either substance on it's own. We still weren't entirely in love with the stuff, decided to smoke walk around smoking ~10mg-20mg hits of DMT. This mild dose went nicely with the DiPT. Felt like it brought out the best in it. Trip ended and we felt it was unremarkable.
* 17mg — the visuals were out of this world. this was a week later at a second festival. couldn't handle being in public. the visuals were similar to 10 hits of LSD in potency. the ground was rippling like waves in the sea and trees and lights were spiralling around in chaotic and bizarre shapes. I danced it off, but understood nothing about my surroundings. This sketched me out badly. I advise against increasing the dose like this.
*15mg — I didn't consume this dose. I provided the material to friends. They had little in the way of expectations (never heard of "foxy"). We went to a pink floyd laser show. Lots of wide-eyed conversations amongst each other for about 3 hours. Then we returned home and slept. They described it as feeling like mushrooms without the body-load (i found the opposite so I found that interesting—I don't get a body load or stomach pain from mushrooms)
Bottom Line: Start low and work your way up in 1mg increments. This material is best enjoyed in moderation. It's incredibly potent and the visuals from 17mg were indescribable.
2CT7
Allergy Test — 0.1ml (2mg) dissolved in 1 cup (250ml) of water. water consumed in 125ml portions 1 week apart. No effect.
* 15mg - unremarkable visuals, almost nothing in fact. just biked around my town feeling slightly stoned and maybe a hint of a lattice work. nothing near as visual as 2CB was for me.
* 20mg - this was killer. I went to a music festival that sort of had a country feel to it, but played a wide variety of music from folk to electronic to a few rock acts. I was arrived early and was very sleep deprived. The festival gates weren't open yet, so I decided to find a quiet (but sunny field) place to take a nap. I put the material in a beer. Took a bike ride (drank the beer), found the sunny field (about 30 mins later—hadn't come on yet). Took a nap for about 1.5 hrs. felt some alerts at about 1 hr sort of reminded me of mescaline CEVs but without any warm or fuzzy character. Felt cold and mechanical. Went to the festival, got on the dance floor but my body felt incredibly fucked up. Maybe it was 4 weeks of festivals (dancing on the floor for 6 hour-stints) and working 5-12 hour days (last day was 5 days ago). Introverted extremely. Visuals were lame. Mescaline like, but without any depth. Just enhancement of colour (felt sort of teal) and a very slight lattice/spiderweb. my body was KILLING me. I LOVE DANCING to good music and I could barely move. My shoulders were tense like nothing I've ever felt. At about T+6:00hr I decided to start swinging my arms and doing lunges. I developed a pretty intense sense of joy and people around me didn't really understand why i went from being very awkward and unpleasant to screaming at the top of my lungs and expressing my love for the universe. From T+10:00hr+ i felt like I had come down. This was the best part—was extremely extroverted having great conversation all over the place (I felt pretty much sober, but invigorated). My headspace was in a place that I determined I prefer psychedelics in the private wilderness with close friends. Yet there is still something magic about psychedelics and an AMAZING sound system. This is why I subject myself to difficulty even though most people consider psychedelics + public places an obvious no-brainer. But I go to more shows sober now than before.
Bottom Line: body tension was painful, but the trip was remarkable (however I'm not even sure if it was the 2CT7). I didn't really feel the euphoria realization until T+10:00 hrs. Up to that point it was un-pleasant and un-remarkable with very little visuals
I am yet to sample either chem yet.
