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5-MeO-DMT - Hype or Hyperbole?

Speaking of 5-meo-dmt i just rolled an infused tabacco joint yesterday approximately ~4mg 5-meo-dmt acetate. Smoked it in 4 hits few minutes apart. The acetate salt feels more potent dose wise than than the freebase.

This dose range in particular 4mg is uncomfortable for me. There's more fear and anxiety than a heavier dose ironically. The experience itself was unsettling triggering fight or flight mode in me but the come down and the after glow was really nice.

The dreams i had the same night was exceptionally vivid, wild and satisfying. Woke up in a great mood. No big revelations but there was a fine subtle tuning of ones perception of reality that lt helps makes life as an experience kind if feels like whole new again somehow. Am not sure if any if this makes sense but it is what it is.

Low dose feels a lot more enjoyable and deep after smoking it more often. After i stop taking 5-meo-dmt for few months it becomes exceptionally more fear inducing and uncomfortable such is the case with yesterday.
 

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Speaking of consistency of the 5-meo-dmt experience.. i would disagree on that. As strange as this may sound sometimes 5-meo-dmt country to common believe can boost the ego...can make me feel powerful with super human powers...can make me feel super confident, invincible mentally and physically.

This power and energy isn't just a perception but it does translate to actual physical power felt during exercising. I can do considerably more reps way above my normal physical limits.. if am normally capable of doing 30 Push ups before reaching muscle failure i could do 55 reps instead on the Come down from ~ 7mg smoked 5-meo-dmt. I experience a mind focus and mental sharpness like no other. It's like harnessing the power of the big bang at the very centre of the universe.. the power of the central quantum computer at the heart of creation god himself.

Such experience reminds me of dr livesey cartoon figure lol [
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This power and energy isn't just a perception but it does translate to actual physical power felt during exercising. I can do considerably more reps way above my normal physical limits.. if am normally capable of doing 30 Push ups before reaching muscle failure i could do 55 reps instead on the Come down from ~ 7mg smoked 5-meo-dmt. I experience a mind focus and mental sharpness like no other. It's like harnessing the power of the big bang at the very centre of the universe.. the power of the central quantum computer at the heart of creation god himself.
This effect can occur with other psychedelics also...I experience it with both LSD and psilocybin, increased freedom of movement and more in sync body coordination and sensation that translates to increased physical prowess in athletic performance. It seems to be caused in part by an increasd sensitivity to the bodily process. In additon as you mention there is an increased mental acuity and present focus that comes with this. The benefits to an extent can remain if one works at it in the subsequent days to stablize the enhancement.
 
Speaking of consistency of the 5-meo-dmt experience.. i would disagree on that. As strange as this may sound sometimes 5-meo-dmt country to common believe can boost the ego...can make me feel powerful with super human powers...can make me feel super confident, invincible mentally and physically.

This power and energy isn't just a perception but it does translate to actual physical power felt during exercising. I can do considerably more reps way above my normal physical limits.. if am normally capable of doing 30 Push ups before reaching muscle failure i could do 55 reps instead on the Come down from ~ 7mg smoked 5-meo-dmt. I experience a mind focus and mental sharpness like no other. It's like harnessing the power of the big bang at the very centre of the universe.. the power of the central quantum computer at the heart of creation god himself.

Such experience reminds me of dr livesey cartoon figure lol [
]
For me the ego dies instantly once 5 meo dmt takes over. It is the most magical feeling ever. But yes you can be correct also as it has let me see things very stange. One time just finished taking a hit and my wife flicked my nipple and it brought me instantly back to this world. Watched her stomach Turing and said in 5 seconds your are going to puke. She looked at me and laughed. 5 seconds later she puked.
 
For me the ego dies instantly once 5 meo dmt takes over. It is the most magical feeling ever. But yes you can be correct also as it has let me see things very stange. One time just finished taking a hit and my wife flicked my nipple and it brought me instantly back to this world. Watched her stomach Turing and said in 5 seconds your are going to puke. She looked at me and laughed. 5 seconds later she puked.
Try keep your eyes open next time and listen to some powerful instrumental you'll understand what i mean. To me witnessing everything and nothing all at once، being at the center of the universe at the heart of the machine of creation having witnessed life and death (a traveller in between) i start to feel immensely powerful like am gifted the matrix key. It's highly technological and spiritual all at the same time like it's the same thing...

There's a lot of fear still seconds before the peak but i push through it and think to myself i wanna find my power what am truly made of . Through all that cosmic storm i open my eyes staying awake as i break through.. the transition can happen with full conscious mind i witness myself turn to a spirit but still living in a temporary body like am not human anymore it's just a body and i somehow still understand this body's needs as a vehicle am driving...i can talk and move with ease but am sooooo far out there

It's a totally different experience than laying down eyes closed being passive as you leave your body back to where you came from. Some people say trying to move round triggers your ego to come back but since it has no place in that other world it gives you more panic but i was able to consciously move around and talk to a friend while i fully broke though.. well he couldn't understand anything of what i was saying but to me ot made all sense lol
 
Try keep your eyes open next time and listen to some powerful instrumental you'll understand what i mean. To me witnessing everything and nothing all at once، being at the center of the universe at the heart of the machine of creation having witnessed life and death (a traveller in between) i start to feel immensely powerful like am gifted the matrix key. It's highly technological and spiritual all at the same time like it's the same thing...

There's a lot of fear still seconds before the peak but i push through it and think to myself i wanna find my power what am truly made of . Through all that cosmic storm i open my eyes staying awake as i break through.. the transition can happen with full conscious mind i witness myself turn to a spirit but still living in a temporary body like am not human anymore it's just a body and i somehow still understand this body's needs as a vehicle am driving...i can talk and move with ease but am sooooo far out there

It's a totally different experience than laying down eyes closed being passive as you leave your body back to where you came from. Some people say trying to move round triggers your ego to come back but since it has no place in that other world it gives you more panic but i was able to consciously move around and talk to a friend while i fully broke though.. well he couldn't understand anything of what i was saying but to me ot made all sense lol
Wow that's awesome, thought no one else has Don it. Can do the same, many times , have kept my eyes open but most of the time, this world vsnishe right in front of my face, then it closes my eyes. When that happens, can not keep my eyes open, they shut and they will not let me open tthem.
 
Speaking of consistency of the 5-meo-dmt experience.. i would disagree on that. As strange as this may sound sometimes 5-meo-dmt country to common believe can boost the ego...can make me feel powerful with super human powers...can make me feel super confident, invincible mentally and physically.

This power and energy isn't just a perception but it does translate to actual physical power felt during exercising. I can do considerably more reps way above my normal physical limits.. if am normally capable of doing 30 Push ups before reaching muscle failure i could do 55 reps instead on the Come down from ~ 7mg smoked 5-meo-dmt. I experience a mind focus and mental sharpness like no other. It's like harnessing the power of the big bang at the very centre of the universe.. the power of the central quantum computer at the heart of creation god himself.

Such experience reminds me of dr livesey cartoon figure lol [
]
What in the actual fudge !! (X
So there's something more intense and potent than NN-DMT ....Lol My Goodness.....
That is some heavy stuff than. I've seen the Primordial Gods fighting in a Royal Rumble on top of clouds that represented the universe and experienced infinity but licking a toad is more intense??? My oh my.... That's something to look forward to.
I also experience the same with NN-Dmt. I feel lkke my body and mind have a boost of energy and focus that isn't normally there prior to Dmt and most active I'm noticing it after the come down of smoking Dmt.
It reminds of of that tv show and movie called "Limitless." Maybe that show is based off of Dmt
 
5 meo dmt is beyond this world. It is the most amazing experience one will ever take. The best and most sacred journey anyone can take. Pure truth. Have never done it with a sitter or guide. Always alone for me. NO SIDE EFFECT AT ALL. There is no word kn any language in the universe to describe it. Most any can try dmt or get it. Barley anyone gets the special chance to journey with 5 meo dmt. If one's gets a chance and takes it. He will forever be changed for the better.
I have seen some people get up and try and walk around partially unaware of their surroundings. Are you sure alone is safe for Everyone? Maybe tied to a padded tree with a rope?
 
No you are not missing out as it is all connected.

What 5 meo dmt was trying to tell me was then also discussed in dmt trip.

It it very dangerous as I lost sense with reality and almost jumped out of the window but then again it was an overdose and I am sensitive.

It was 7grams of chaliponga with caapi, which is like 5 grams more than I should take.

After that I never touched it again and continued with small dose of caapi + chacruna.
 
I have seen some people get up and try and walk around partially unaware of their surroundings. Are you sure alone is safe for Everyone? Maybe tied to a padded tree with a rope?
For me alone is best. We are supposed to guide ourself. Actually for me all psychedelics and entheogens are all best for me alone. If we are leaving our body and going on a journey, what do we need another person there trying to interfere. The best way to heal is to do it all yourself. That is the true way to me.
 
I'm also mainly a solo psychaunot but i must admit sometimes things can get dangerously wild as others have pointed out. I had a friend almost choke on their vomit on a heavy dose. 5-meo-dmt. Caught them them in the last minute ... Could have easily gone horribly bad. They pushed themselves off of their seat head hanging down like a rope while laying on their back. Not a pretty sight to witness. Same could happen to anyone solo myself included.
 
For me the ego dies instantly once 5 meo dmt takes over. It is the most magical feeling ever. But yes you can be correct also as it has let me see things very stange. One time just finished taking a hit and my wife flicked my nipple and it brought me instantly back to this world. Watched her stomach Turing and said in 5 seconds your are going to puke. She looked at me and laughed. 5 seconds later she puked.
5meo-DMT is even more strange in this regard, it gives you super powers during the come down. This one time, I came back and my partner at that time was lying next to me, I looked at her, and then gently started to move my fingers along her cheeks. I knew exactly what to do, where to touch and how, and my breathing and my heart beat were all perfectly synced with my movements, and I could also perceive her breathing and heartbeat at the same time. At some point she realized what I was doing to her, I was changing her heartbeat. She looked at me in shock, she couldn't believe it, she got scared, her heartbeat was changing, adapting to the rhythm of my fingers... She got up soon after and asked me to stop and I did.

Another time I was at my friend's and put his cat to sleep. I got up, sat down next to the cat, and knew exactly what to do. The cat was wide awake and active when I approached him, and after 2-3 minutes he was sleeping peacefully. All I had to do was to caress him in a very specific manner, playing around with his attention, using a mix of calming and exciting touch. I learned that one can play around with the two, use them like waves, excite a little, then calm down, then excite a little, then calm down some more, and this way you can change the energy, dial it up or down. The sheer depth of perception one gains on 5meo is crazy...
 
5meo-DMT is even more strange in this regard, it gives you super powers during the come down. This one time, I came back and my partner at that time was lying next to me, I looked at her, and then gently started to move my fingers along her cheeks. I knew exactly what to do, where to touch and how, and my breathing and my heart beat were all perfectly synced with my movements, and I could also perceive her breathing and heartbeat at the same time. At some point she realized what I was doing to her, I was changing her heartbeat. She looked at me in shock, she couldn't believe it, she got scared, her heartbeat was changing, adapting to the rhythm of my fingers... She got up soon after and asked me to stop and I did.

Another time I was at my friend's and put his cat to sleep. I got up, sat down next to the cat, and knew exactly what to do. The cat was wide awake and active when I approached him, and after 2-3 minutes he was sleeping peacefully. All I had to do was to caress him in a very specific manner, playing around with his attention, using a mix of calming and exciting touch. I learned that one can play around with the two, use them like waves, excite a little, then calm down, then excite a little, then calm down some more, and this way you can change the energy, dial it up or down. The sheer depth of perception one gains on 5meo is crazy...
That is awesomeness!!!!!
 
Have had many more special experiences but not for all ears. Now smoking green gives me a 5-MeO-DMT experience. It is awesome and find myself nervous now to smoke green just like the same feeling before doing dmt or 5-MeO-DMT. Now know that nervous feeling is my ego doing it cause it doesn't want me to smoke it and heal so go all in everytime.
 
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Speaking of how other substances feel after doing 5-meo-dmt. One night i tried a high THC hash after a long day expedition where i smoked 5-meo-dmt during the day and i was sleep deprived by night time that i sorted freebase ritalin to stay alert to finish some chores before sleep.

Finally am home and smoke three tokes of this high THC hash before i sleep.. it was the most visual experience of my life... As crazy as the 5-meo-dmt i took that morning. I tripped all night long awake and all next day till like 6pm. To this day i don't understand what's happened..weed never caused me to to see that much visuals open and closed eyes. Wild auditory hallucinations, extreme colorful visuals eyes closed like a high dose mescaline the but more intense. How can it ever be that strong?

Smoked the same hash again after a few days without any 5-meo-dmt prior smoking that day and it never felt anywhere near the same as crazy or lasted near as long as last time. Confusing.
 
@Panpsychic I've had the opportunity to take 5-MeO-DMT a few years ago but I was too scared to do it. That left me with your same question and the answer I got from the people I asked to was that n,n-DMT and 5-MeO-DMT can both bring you to that "pure awareness" state, but the difference is that with n,n-DMT it happens rarely (only once IME) while with 5-MeO-DMT it happens more consistently.

On a side note, @Here&Now I didn't know about so-called "kundalini syndrome". Do you think it could explain also similar symptoms to the ones you described but happening after frequent use of n,n-DMT?
 
On a side note, @Here&Now I didn't know about so-called "kundalini syndrome". Do you think it could explain also similar symptoms to the ones you described but happening after frequent use of n,n-DMT?
I haven't heard of the same thing occurring with DMT use, though I wouldn't deny that it's possible. DMT is unspeakably profound as well. And like you mentioned, the experience can sometimes dip into that same pure awareness, so perhaps it would be possible to induce kundalini in the right circumstances. This could be especially true if you're talking about frequent use.

5-MeO-DMT is very special among psychedelics in the way it reliably produces a state similar to nirvikalpa samadhi when used in large enough doses. If you ever give it a try, you'll quickly see what I mean. I believe it's the approaching of this state itself that's responsible for the triggering of kundalini. This has been known to be the case whether a person reaches the state while sober via meditation or with the assistance of 5-MeO-DMT. You'll know it's happening, because you'll feel powerful energetic sensations in your body and going up your spine, and your state of consciousness will alter in unbelievably profound ways. It's anything but subtle when it actually occurs. Like I mentioned in previous posts, this can have unfortunate side effects for somebody whose energetic system isn't prepared.
 
Im always confused why people use “NN” to distinguish DMT from 5 meo DMT. 5 meo also contains NN.. it is 5 methoxy-NN-dimethyltryptamine. NN-DMT is “normal” DMT.. it’s not some variant of DMT. It’s a distinction that makes no sense to me S it implies 5 meo does not contain NN in its structure..
 
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