50g vs 100g ayahuasca - discernible difference?

[nexalizer]

For the seasoned traveller who has the experience to tell, what are the differences between these dosages? Is more ayahuasca == more nausea?


Does increasing ayahuasca facilitate visions, or do these change only with more Chacruna (provided the aya dose was effective at mao inhibition, of course) ?


While on the topic, how much is usually considered to be considered too much? 300g, 500g, 1kg?

 

[universecannon]

Big difference. IME 50 isn't really that psychedelic on its own but 100 definitely is, and caapi in general is pretty sedating. Like realistic dream sequences while in a trance with thoughts splitting. It can be really euphoric and trigger out of body experiences to. Very warm and healing

I've never heard of anyone taking anything near 300g

alone I love about 110g or more and laying down in the dark but everyone's different and I'd start with 70 or 80 then take more if you like. If I take it like that I dont really get any nausea. You won't want to walk or even have lights on although you get used to higher doses after a while and walking will be easy

 

[nexalizer]

My one attempt so far was with 50/50 Ayahuasca/Chacruna. Presumably because I threw up too early, I only got a vestigial trace of the effects of that plant, but pretty much enjoyed the inner peace and thoughts popping on my mind during the first 30 minutes, before drinking the Chacruna tea (in other words, Caapi's effect on its own)

So that got me wondering. For the next try I think it'll either be just 100g of Ayahuasca or 100/50.

 

[jamie]

50g does not really approximate real jungle ayahuasca. 100g compared to 50g is a big difference. It is much more visionary in a way that adding any ammount of DMT will not match. It is more real and has more of a meaning to it. The deep telepathic expereinces with ayahuasca come from the harmalas and the DMT plants seem to enhance it IMO..but if you just use the smallest ammount of harmalas you need for inhibition and then take alot of DMT the experience feels lacking in comparison to lots of harmalas and just a bit of DMT.

Also, if you use 50g of caapi, you might need twice the ammount of DMT compared to using 100g..at least in my experience. This may be why some people need like 200+mg of oral DMT. I dont get why anyone would ever need 200mg of DMT unless they are cutting corners with harmalas..also a brew with alot of DMT and little harmalas is more uncomfortable mentally for some reason.

With 100g of caapi I can take just 1g of mimosa and it will be active and at the prefect visionary spot most often. With only 50g caapi I might need 3g of mimosa. More caapi will make it last longer though.

 

[nexalizer]

Cool jamie, thanks for the input8)