tony
Rising Star
I'll start this by saying that I am writing this as a warning, not to brag and certainly not because I think it is a good idea. It is something I will be avoiding in the future and will be telling anyone I know to be careful of. I've always been suspicious of research chemicals since we know so little about what effects, physical and psychological, they can have on the human body and mind, but at the same time I have always been interested in seeing what experiences are available and have been willing to take the mental/physical risks associated with occasionally guinea pigging new chemicals. With that said I would appreciate not being insulted or called a "junkie" (as I was in another thread) or an idiot or whatever for my decisions about drugs, this story is about spreading data about an experience and if this forum is not the place to share it then feel free to remove it or whatever, but attacks on my character won't be appreciated.
So anyway, here's what happened. I had planned on taking some methoxetamine and DMT together as I had heard this can be a very pleasant combination. I started off by taking 25mg of MXE sublingually, after about half an hour or so I was definitely feeling effects from it and found it very enjoyable. My previous MXE experiences had been whilst under the influence of alcohol and I had very little recollection of what effect the MXE had on those occasions. On this occasion I was sober, alone, comfortable, well fed and generally in good spirits. I proceeded to take another 25mg sublingually followed immediately by 20mg chopped into 2 lines nasally. The positive sensations increased and increased. At this point I stopped measuring how much I was taking and just started irresponsibly taking unknown amounts with no regard for whether it was safe or likely to remain enjoyable. Over the course of about 4-6 hours I ended up taking very close to 1000mg of it, mostly sublingually but also intranasally (all that was left of the gram was a small lines worth). The effects I experienced ranged from pleasant to extremely unpleasant and frightening, such as the pleasant feeling that my consciousness was able to move at will from my body to other objects in the room and that the couch I was lying on was something which I could melt right inside at will, at one point I was concerned that I was going to "go too far" and melt myself right through the couch, the floor and right into the downstairs neighbours house.
As things progressed I started feeling that something was communicating with me, eventually this communication became very direct and was coming through my computer screen. I couldn't make sense of what I was being told but I knew that I was being warned of something and offered a chance to escape it.
Now that I have returned to baseline I am aware how ludicrous these things are in terms of the physics of the material world, but at the time it felt incredibly real. So what followed from these initial pleasant, although strange, effects were what I think can only be described as a psychotic episode which lasted over 24 hours (starting from the first dose of MXE). I started becoming aware of a humming noise, which I thought was coming from my computer so I turned it off. This never stopped the noise, it continued to rise and rise in intensity. The hum was accompanied by bubbling sounds, clicks and mechanical "scanning" (I don't really know how to explain it) and I spent quite a while trying to figure out where this sound was coming from, I turned off everything electrical in my house and the sounds just continued... I don't know at what point my brain made the jump to what happened next so I'll just tell it as I remember it. I became aware that the sounds I was hearing were neither internal to me nor coming from anything in my house that I needed to turn off but were in fact coming from outside. I started being able to hear people screaming and shouting. I looked out my window and could see people running around in panic. This is when I realised what was happening. My neighborhood was being invaded, the sound I was hearing was the sound of spaceships approaching and they had now arrived and were wreaking havoc on the people in the houses around me. The earlier "communication" I had been getting via my computer was their attempt to warn me and offer to save me from the fate that awaited the rest of earhs inhabitants. The scanning sound was them trying to detect consciousness within the houses, and when they detected it they would then extract the person from the house and take them away (for presumably bad intentions) . Needless to say I was terrified by this point and was not thinking or acting rationally. I was eventually standing in the hall in my house (which is the only area with no windows) holding a knife staring at my door waiting for it to be kicked in by whatever these things outside were... a while after this I started becoming aware that what was going on was almost certainly something within my head, and that the drug I had taken had probably triggered some kind of paranoid delusion or something, so I decided to just go and curl up under a blanket and it and ride it out. I was eventually thinking quite lucidly and reasonably but I could still hear pandemonium going on outside and was not entirely convinced that it really was all in my head so I just lay there for hours until i fell asleep, terrified, shaking and confused.
When I woke up normality had returned. I checked how long this experience had been going on for and concluded that it couldn't really be classed as a "bad trip" since it continued long after the effects of the drug should have worn off, so must have been something mental that had been triggered with the drug. I looked outside and the sun was shining, people were going about their business and there were definitely no signs that an alien invasion had occurred. I am shaken by what happened and relieved that it was all in my head, but also relieved that it wasn't a state of mind that remained permanent, since I do know of people who have had experiences like this which have lead to hospitalization with catatonic schizophrenia which needed years of medication and psychiatric care to get under control.
It seems likely that what I experienced was a combination of an overdose and a triggering of a latent problem. I have a family history of schizophrenia and a personal history of not schizophrenia but certainly mental instability... but either way, the experience was what it was and I thought it was worth sharing as a word of warning to anyone else who thinks dabbling with a large amount of MXE will be safe just because the drug is legal. It is a powerful drug and potentially a brain fryer. Be careful.
So anyway, here's what happened. I had planned on taking some methoxetamine and DMT together as I had heard this can be a very pleasant combination. I started off by taking 25mg of MXE sublingually, after about half an hour or so I was definitely feeling effects from it and found it very enjoyable. My previous MXE experiences had been whilst under the influence of alcohol and I had very little recollection of what effect the MXE had on those occasions. On this occasion I was sober, alone, comfortable, well fed and generally in good spirits. I proceeded to take another 25mg sublingually followed immediately by 20mg chopped into 2 lines nasally. The positive sensations increased and increased. At this point I stopped measuring how much I was taking and just started irresponsibly taking unknown amounts with no regard for whether it was safe or likely to remain enjoyable. Over the course of about 4-6 hours I ended up taking very close to 1000mg of it, mostly sublingually but also intranasally (all that was left of the gram was a small lines worth). The effects I experienced ranged from pleasant to extremely unpleasant and frightening, such as the pleasant feeling that my consciousness was able to move at will from my body to other objects in the room and that the couch I was lying on was something which I could melt right inside at will, at one point I was concerned that I was going to "go too far" and melt myself right through the couch, the floor and right into the downstairs neighbours house.
As things progressed I started feeling that something was communicating with me, eventually this communication became very direct and was coming through my computer screen. I couldn't make sense of what I was being told but I knew that I was being warned of something and offered a chance to escape it.
Now that I have returned to baseline I am aware how ludicrous these things are in terms of the physics of the material world, but at the time it felt incredibly real. So what followed from these initial pleasant, although strange, effects were what I think can only be described as a psychotic episode which lasted over 24 hours (starting from the first dose of MXE). I started becoming aware of a humming noise, which I thought was coming from my computer so I turned it off. This never stopped the noise, it continued to rise and rise in intensity. The hum was accompanied by bubbling sounds, clicks and mechanical "scanning" (I don't really know how to explain it) and I spent quite a while trying to figure out where this sound was coming from, I turned off everything electrical in my house and the sounds just continued... I don't know at what point my brain made the jump to what happened next so I'll just tell it as I remember it. I became aware that the sounds I was hearing were neither internal to me nor coming from anything in my house that I needed to turn off but were in fact coming from outside. I started being able to hear people screaming and shouting. I looked out my window and could see people running around in panic. This is when I realised what was happening. My neighborhood was being invaded, the sound I was hearing was the sound of spaceships approaching and they had now arrived and were wreaking havoc on the people in the houses around me. The earlier "communication" I had been getting via my computer was their attempt to warn me and offer to save me from the fate that awaited the rest of earhs inhabitants. The scanning sound was them trying to detect consciousness within the houses, and when they detected it they would then extract the person from the house and take them away (for presumably bad intentions) . Needless to say I was terrified by this point and was not thinking or acting rationally. I was eventually standing in the hall in my house (which is the only area with no windows) holding a knife staring at my door waiting for it to be kicked in by whatever these things outside were... a while after this I started becoming aware that what was going on was almost certainly something within my head, and that the drug I had taken had probably triggered some kind of paranoid delusion or something, so I decided to just go and curl up under a blanket and it and ride it out. I was eventually thinking quite lucidly and reasonably but I could still hear pandemonium going on outside and was not entirely convinced that it really was all in my head so I just lay there for hours until i fell asleep, terrified, shaking and confused.
When I woke up normality had returned. I checked how long this experience had been going on for and concluded that it couldn't really be classed as a "bad trip" since it continued long after the effects of the drug should have worn off, so must have been something mental that had been triggered with the drug. I looked outside and the sun was shining, people were going about their business and there were definitely no signs that an alien invasion had occurred. I am shaken by what happened and relieved that it was all in my head, but also relieved that it wasn't a state of mind that remained permanent, since I do know of people who have had experiences like this which have lead to hospitalization with catatonic schizophrenia which needed years of medication and psychiatric care to get under control.
It seems likely that what I experienced was a combination of an overdose and a triggering of a latent problem. I have a family history of schizophrenia and a personal history of not schizophrenia but certainly mental instability... but either way, the experience was what it was and I thought it was worth sharing as a word of warning to anyone else who thinks dabbling with a large amount of MXE will be safe just because the drug is legal. It is a powerful drug and potentially a brain fryer. Be careful.