A Meditation Thread

[Here&Now2]

Here's an interesting book I just came across relating to the use of 5-MeO-DMT specifically as a meditation tool.

Amazon.com

 

[Tripolation]

I'm wondering what needs to be done to really get my foot in the door and live a genuinely conscious life.

I am not the best person to ask life advice from. I am a pretty screwed up and still healing and working it all out. A work in progress. That is my disclaimer brother.

I think the way you frame this is part of the problem. Your foot is already inside the door along with your whole being. There is no door. Everything that you want to live authentically is already within.

Maybe I have been watching too much Alan Watts lately but you are what you have been seeking. I think Rumi said something to that effect as well. Wait a second.. I heard Ram Dass and several other spiritual teachers say the same thing. They are all saying the same stuff. They are all pointing the same direction. Countless self-help books, ted talks, youtube videos of every guru you can name, I tried therapy once, tried talking to friends, used psychedelics and tried so many other things to figure out how to get myself out of the hell I was in for so many years. It wasn't until I started meditating that I started to see what the problem was.

You don't need psychedelics to be a springboard. You could do it without them. Choose to be authentically you. This is something I have been trying to do lately, although it feels clumsy and awkward for me at times. I really do think that you have to go to your heart to know who you really are. What really grabs you in life? What do you love in this world? Follow that and you will find yourself at the end, waiting for your own arrival if you don't mind paraphrasing Derek Walcott.

Keep on learning, growing, watch Ram Dass and Alan Watts, read those books, keep striving to expand your consciousness. But while you do that, pay attention to how you do it. Do it with love and excitement. If something is a hindrance, drop it, if it helps, pick it up.

Which are the ones you find to help the most?

They all helped. I don't measure help.


Watch that mind and see that is the thing getting in your way. Psychedelics can help you see this as well as many other tools. But YOU need to see it. I am still learning this myself. Not sure if this even answers your query. Don't follow the lost, I have no idea where I am going or what I am doing.

Any experience with 5-MeO-DMT?

Never tried it. It's on my to-do list.

 

[Here&Now2]

I am not the best person to ask life advice from. I am a pretty screwed up and still healing and working it all out. A work in progress. That is my disclaimer brother.

I think the way you frame this is part of the problem. Your foot is already inside the door along with your whole being. There is no door. Everything that you want to live authentically is already within.

Maybe I have been watching too much Alan Watts lately but you are what you have been seeking. I think Rumi said something to that effect as well. Wait a second.. I heard Ram Dass and several other spiritual teachers say the same thing. They are all saying the same stuff. They are all pointing the same direction. Countless self-help books, ted talks, youtube videos of every guru you can name, I tried therapy once, tried talking to friends, used psychedelics and tried so many other things to figure out how to get myself out of the hell I was in for so many years. It wasn't until I started meditating that I started to see what the problem was.

You don't need psychedelics to be a springboard. You could do it without them. Choose to be authentically you. This is something I have been trying to do lately, although it feels clumsy and awkward for me at times. I really do think that you have to go to your heart to know who you really are. What really grabs you in life? What do you love in this world? Follow that and you will find yourself at the end, waiting for your own arrival if you don't mind paraphrasing Derek Walcott.

Keep on learning, growing, watch Ram Dass and Alan Watts, read those books, keep striving to expand your consciousness. But while you do that, pay attention to how you do it. Do it with love and excitement. If something is a hindrance, drop it, if it helps, pick it up.

Great advice, thank you. I especially appreciate and resonate with how you have an enthusiasm for all of it. I often see people refer to spiritual development using terms like "work", and I just can't relate to that mentality. For me, it's always such an exciting adventure. I'll try to keep the "already enlightened" aspect in mind when I find myself striving excessively.

Never tried it. It's on my to-do list.

Good god, man, you really should if you get a chance. Based on what I've seen of your posts, it's almost even more up your alley than it is mine. In my experience, its breakthrough state is the personification of everything you're describing, where the gateless gate is crossed and the illusion of separation is fully cast off. Low and medium doses are super helpful as well, while being much less potentially terrifying.