is this acacia burkittii?
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Botany Acacia and Mimosa Identification Thread
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nope i'm pretty sure thats acacia saligna.. other than the yellow flowers burkitti is a much differen't looking tree. burkitti has rod flowers whereas that tree has yellow balls. it also has much more narrow phyllodes which have a slightly curled "acuminate" point at their tip..... below is burkitti again
google images is your friend a quick search will give you several pretty accurate pics of burkitti
google images is your friend a quick search will give you several pretty accurate pics of burkitti
acacian said:nope i'm pretty sure thats acacia saligna.. other than the yellow flowers burkitti is a much differen't looking tree. burkitti has rod flowers whereas that tree has yellow balls. it also has much more narrow phyllodes which have a slightly curled "acuminate" point at their tip..... below is burkitti again
google images is your friend a quick search will give you several pretty accurate pics of burkitti
is that in response to my question?
i did look at google images and typed acacia burkittii and one or two images looked very similar, almost the same as the picture i put so thats why i posted here.
sc001 said:
yep it was
good luck on the search for burkitti ... should be lurking about. its a fairly common tree in SA but i'm not sure whether it grows around adelaide
Spice Sailor
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Didn't know 5meo was a MAOI when smoked, very interesting. I have had some voyagers from maidenii extracts (vapourized) that resulted in what i considered to be 5meo effects. Not "unpleasant" feelings, but felt very physically and mentally demanding on my body and consciousness.
Here's some good attempts to explain the unexplainable from Nexians
Hey Stainer the tree in your photos, I think, is Delonix regia (Poinciana). It's not an acacia or mimosa but is in the greater family Fabaceae, subfamily Caesalpinioideae.
Spice Sailor.
Here's some good attempts to explain the unexplainable from Nexians
Hey Stainer the tree in your photos, I think, is Delonix regia (Poinciana). It's not an acacia or mimosa but is in the greater family Fabaceae, subfamily Caesalpinioideae.
Spice Sailor.
Stainer (hi, and welcome) wrote:
and thanks acacian for the A. burkitti response..i agree Sc001's pics are of A. saligna or similar (ball flowers for a start..)
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..while it is true that Acacia is from the ancient greek word for Thorn, not all acacia trees have thorns..very few australian species have thorns, and ever-arguing systematic botanists have now placed African, South American and Australian/Asian acacias in different genus..(Vachellia etc.) just to confuse us all further..and, yeah SpiceSailor's right about the ID, probably a poinciana (leopard tree)..thanks Sailor..
and thanks acacian for the A. burkitti response..i agree Sc001's pics are of A. saligna or similar (ball flowers for a start..)
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Blackandblue
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..to assist everyone in Acacia ID, here's a link to BOTANICAL TERMS RELEVANT TO ACACIAS in the acacia info thread..
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StonerCaravan
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Hey guys. Looking for an identification of this plant. My own research has been fruitless. Thanks in advance.
Apologies for the large images...
Apologies for the large images...
StonerCaravan that tree looks like it could well be acacia verticillata.. link to pics below
StonerCaravan
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Thanks for the quick response! According to Wikipedia Acacia verticillata, if it is indeed that, contains little or no alkaloids.
..there is no solid evidence for this claim..in other words, not enough research done to say this or otherwise..nice photos btw StonerCaravan..StonerCaravan said:
shanedudddy2
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Hi guys,
I believe I have found Acacia Victoriae based on a clear identification of the Flora that exists in the Park.
I grabbed a small sample of the twigs from a younger specimen (not too young) for testing, and a more mature specimen.
The younger tree twigs used seemed to result in nothing, with throws into doubt either my testing methodology, or the Actives are seasonal or non-existent...or only present in mature tree's (or a hybrid of the two)
Been using a slightly modified version of Marsofold (for a reduced quantity).
Anyone able to confirm I definitely have the right tree.
Thanks heaps.
I believe I have found Acacia Victoriae based on a clear identification of the Flora that exists in the Park.
I grabbed a small sample of the twigs from a younger specimen (not too young) for testing, and a more mature specimen.
The younger tree twigs used seemed to result in nothing, with throws into doubt either my testing methodology, or the Actives are seasonal or non-existent...or only present in mature tree's (or a hybrid of the two
)Been using a slightly modified version of Marsofold (for a reduced quantity).
Anyone able to confirm I definitely have the right tree.
Thanks heaps.
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..good shots everyone..^^..A. victoriae has small spiny stipules (thorns) 'at least on young plants' and the seeds are noticeably mottled (speckled/pitted) ..it also has a sub-variety var. arida, with shorter wider phyllodes..
..'d need to see the seeds and pods to be certain of ID..thanks for report..so far..
worth growing for the edible seed alone..real yummy! :thumb_up:
..'d need to see the seeds and pods to be certain of ID..thanks for report..so far..
worth growing for the edible seed alone..real yummy! :thumb_up:
shanedudddy2
Rising Star
Thanks for the reply, some parts of the younger plants definitely have thorns, and others do not.
Please take a look at the following shot, it shows different twig branches of the same tree, one with thorns, the other with no thorns, but rather ridged knobs (my best explanation).
There were no seed or seed pods on any of the trees, unfortunately.
Cheers
Please take a look at the following shot, it shows different twig branches of the same tree, one with thorns, the other with no thorns, but rather ridged knobs (my best explanation).
There were no seed or seed pods on any of the trees, unfortunately.
Cheers
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..hey shaneduudy2..welcome to the world of taxonomic systematic botany! (as opposed to indigenous intuitive style classification) ..without pods and seeds it is very difficult to properly ID an Acacia..i suspect, however, that the stipules and maybe phyllode look slightly different, but this species has sub-forms too..so i can't overemphasise enough
- for proper botanical ID pods, seeds and flowers are required..otherwise it can only be a close guess..
also, it is more likely than not that alkaloids will be absent or reduced if an Acacia is in flower or between flowering and seed production..and during seeding a few species have produced 'defence' alkaloids (NOT dmt)
ideally one should ID a tree at a different time of year to phytochemical experiments..
there are 9 other australian species which can be mistaken for A. victoriae..
they are: A. alexandri , A. aphanoclada , A. chartacea , A. cuspidifolia , A. dempsteri , A. glaucocaesia , A. pickardii , A. ryaniana and A. synchronicia.
Acacia victoriae...common names include Elegant Wattle , Bramble Wattle , Prickly Wattle , Gundabluey and Narran..has 2-3 sub-species..it is very easy to obtain seed from general seed suppliers..
below are a taxonomic summary and some key characteristic photos (c/- of the supreme and wonderful w.w.wattle)
[EDIT: i'm fairly certain that your photos are NOT A.victoriae - main reason - not a prominent mid rib or vein on the phyllode..location records in books do not usually reflect planted/naturalised occurances..
also, looks like radmotion on p10 found an Active and good Longifolia! but how could i have time for All those IDs?
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..below Elegant Narran..
(as opposed to indigenous intuitive style classification) ..without pods and seeds it is very difficult to properly ID an Acacia..i suspect, however, that the stipules and maybe phyllode look slightly different, but this species has sub-forms too..so i can't overemphasise enough- for proper botanical ID pods, seeds and flowers are required..otherwise it can only be a close guess..
also, it is more likely than not that alkaloids will be absent or reduced if an Acacia is in flower or between flowering and seed production..and during seeding a few species have produced 'defence' alkaloids (NOT dmt)
ideally one should ID a tree at a different time of year to phytochemical experiments..
there are 9 other australian species which can be mistaken for A. victoriae..
they are: A. alexandri , A. aphanoclada , A. chartacea , A. cuspidifolia , A. dempsteri , A. glaucocaesia , A. pickardii , A. ryaniana and A. synchronicia.
Acacia victoriae...common names include Elegant Wattle , Bramble Wattle , Prickly Wattle , Gundabluey and Narran..has 2-3 sub-species..it is very easy to obtain seed from general seed suppliers..
below are a taxonomic summary and some key characteristic photos (c/- of the supreme and wonderful w.w.wattle)
[EDIT: i'm fairly certain that your photos are NOT A.victoriae - main reason - not a prominent mid rib or vein on the phyllode..location records in books do not usually reflect planted/naturalised occurances..
also, looks like radmotion on p10 found an Active and good Longifolia! but how could i have time for All those IDs?
]..below Elegant Narran..
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shanedudddy2
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Cheers, according to Atlas of Living Australia none of the other species lives anywhere near the likes of Adelaide.
According to my resources, Acacia Victoriae are within meters of the location I found (within 20-50m)
I guess it`s like you said, that it's variable throughout the year. I just wish I knew of a decent reliable source, haven't done one successful extraction yet... and that is not from a lack of trying *sigh*
According to my resources, Acacia Victoriae are within meters of the location I found (within 20-50m)
I guess it`s like you said, that it's variable throughout the year. I just wish I knew of a decent reliable source, haven't done one successful extraction yet... and that is not from a lack of trying *sigh*
shanedudddy2
Rising Star
I guess the Park Society could be wrong about their classification, but it seemed as though they were almost definitive with it, oh well, another failed attempt to add to the list.
DMT is everywhere...clearly Shulgin never went to Adelaide.
DMT is everywhere...clearly Shulgin never went to Adelaide.
shanedudddy2
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I went on another walk today, believe I found Acacia Cyclops.
I took photos of the pods/seeds and leaves along with a ruler, so hopefully there's enough detail.
The colour around the black seed ranges from yellow to dark red.
There was a better specimen, but when I tried to look at it...a million ants swarmed on my legs. >_<
I found these around cliff coasts, roughly 100m from the sea, small and shruby.
I took photos of the pods/seeds and leaves along with a ruler, so hopefully there's enough detail.
The colour around the black seed ranges from yellow to dark red.
There was a better specimen, but when I tried to look at it...a million ants swarmed on my legs. >_<
I found these around cliff coasts, roughly 100m from the sea, small and shruby.
