Botany Acacia and Mimosa Identification Thread

[Sillycybe43]

[/quote] looks very similar... what is the texture of the phyllodes? can be easily confused with mucronata.
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The are furry, little greyish hairs on them which I believe is a trait of floribunda? Please correct me if I am wrong, thankyou all for the wonderful help so far!

 

[acacian]

looks very similar... what is the texture of the phyllodes? can be easily confused with mucronata.
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The are furry, little greyish hairs on them which I believe is a trait of floribunda? Please correct me if I am wrong, thankyou all for the wonderful help so far![/quote]

yeah I would say its floribunda... good luck with your adventures

 

[Koornut]

I have a feeling this one is buxofolia :lol:

 

[Sillycybe43]

Thank you DreaMTripper and acacian! You both are a wealth of knowledge. Found an abundance of these in a plantation that's due to be cut down soon, the ones that have seeded on the roads will most likely be destroyed/cut down so i think ill try my hand at transplanting these. If I can't find any info on this I'll start a new thread soon. Thank you again.

 

[Demystify]

Hi there, first day out exploring around my area for different acacias. I am West of Sydney up in the mountains. Thinking A.longfolia or possibly A.obtusfolia. Any help would be greatly appreciated
Cheers.

Possibly longifolia? sydney golden wattle?





obtusfolia?
noticed blunt tips on leaves.

 

[Psilonaut]

Hey there guys, found a few of these beautiful trees down by the edge of a creek and was wondering if anyone could help with an I.D? Obtusifolia?

 

[DreaMTripper]

Hi there, first day out exploring around my area for different acacias. I am West of Sydney up in the mountains. Thinking A.longfolia or possibly A.obtusfolia. Any help would be greatly appreciated
Cheers.

Possibly longifolia? sydney golden wattle?

I'm not too sure to be honest its a grand old tree that's for sure! As far as I am aware I dont think longi grows that tall, looks like its 20m tall , but I could be wrong..

psilonaut I would say thats a.sophorae but again I'm not certain..

 

[Lupis Arante]

Good Evening everyone!

This is a long shot, but can anyone help ID this? This was taken in a quite area in Brisbane QLD. I know its an acacia but the closest I found to it in terms of phyllode look alike was an acacia complanata. It didn't have any flowers on it, so I know this will be difficult, all help is greatly appreciated!

 

[alienesk5000]

Is this one of the mimosa plants?

 

[endlessness]

looks more like a fern

 

[acacian]

looks more like a fern

A fern indeed.. probably best if people do at least a a little research in regards to what defines an acacia or mimosa... this way the thread won't become cluttered with other random species and we can get down to identifying acacias

..obviously legumes are in the right general ballpark so I think members can be forgiven for posting them here .. (as the differences can be subtle to the lay observer)

Lupis Arante, your tree looks similar to Acacia Cincinnata.. but some more photo's would be good.. especially of the phyllode shape.. it could also be Acacia Disparrima

Acacia Cincinatta will have minor nerve anastomy between the three prominent veins.. while Acacia Disparrima's veins are longitudinal.. its hard to tell from your photos, but it looks like some nerve anastomy is present.. and the way one of the prominent veins is confluent with the phyllode margin suggests probably Cincinnata.. though it is less common than Disparrima..you'll know for sure by its pods as Cincinnata's are coiled while Disparrima's are straight slightly curved

a lot of the wattles up in that area look very similar.. I'd suggest having a look at Wattles of greater Brisbane region ..

 

[Koornut]

I have a feeling this one is buxofolia :lol:

So this is 90% Acacia Prominens, but it is so far away from natural habitat I can't be sure. I'm in melbs.
Where it grows, it is by itself in what looks to be a garden bed out the front of a factory that has long since been converted into a yard - in an industrial area. So I'd say he was part of a landscaping jobby.
Anyway the winds we had the other night cleaved a hefty limb off the side. A gift
I commandeered what feels like 2kg of phyllodes, flower tops, twiglets etc.

This tree has been away from his homies for so long, a fish out of water.

PlantNET - FloraOnline

 

[Lupis Arante]

Thank you for the fantastic resource Acacian.

I do have one more ID which I seem to be having a fair amount of difficultly with.

Thanks again for all your help!

 

[DreaMTripper]

Those are seed pods that I have never seen on an acacia before, if they are actually pods.

 

[DreaMTripper]

Acacia maidenii in NSW seem quite different from the Vic species, much thicker phyllodes not papery, rougher fissured bark not smooth however seedpods are the same. The ones in NSW have closer resemblance to a.melanoxylon, from Vic!

Almost 100% sure these are maidenii..

 

[acacian]

Lupis Arante, your latest photos are probably Acacia Disparrima.. note the shape of the pods. should have numerous longitudinal veins non anastomosing

And DreamTripper .. interesting maidenii if it is one.. I thought maidenii had more of an acute apex but my understanding is that its a highly variable species.. even just within NSW.

I also wouldn't rule out Acacia Melanoxyn as the ones up here are also differen't to those in victoria .. and again, its also highly variable within NSW. Certain strains of melanoxyn (eq in the new england area heading east) have smoother and lighter grey trunk bark, as well as narrower/more acute phyllodes .. which can lead to being mis-identified as maidenii... it doesn't always live up to its name "blackwood".

It just finished flowering where I live.. so one can tell the difference from the dead flowers still present on many.. but my observation is that some trees further south flower earlier than up here; so depending on which area of NSW you are in you may also be looking at a melanoxyn that finished flowering some time ago. Pods are coiled with melanoxyn too which makes it even more confusing.

Hope your well

 

[DreaMTripper]

Lupis Arante, your latest photos are probably Acacia Disparrima.. note the shape of the pods. should have numerous longitudinal veins non anastomosing

And DreamTripper .. interesting maidenii if it is one.. I thought maidenii had more of an acute apex but my understanding is that its a highly variable species.. even just within NSW.

I also wouldn't rule out Acacia Melanoxyn as the ones up here are also differen't to those in victoria .. and again, its also highly variable within NSW. Certain strains of melanoxyn (eq in the new england area heading east) have smoother and lighter grey trunk bark, as well as narrower/more acute phyllodes .. which can lead to being mis-identified as maidenii... it doesn't always live up to its name "blackwood".

It just finished flowering where I live.. so one can tell the difference from the dead flowers still present on many.. but my observation is that some trees further south flower earlier than up here; so depending on which area of NSW you are in you may also be looking at a melanoxyn that finished flowering some time ago. Pods are coiled with melanoxyn too which makes it even more confusing.

Ah didnt know that! I previously thought melanoxylon had much straighter pods and that was how they could be differentiated, :? now I am leaning towards melanoxylon because of the rough bark..I wonder if they hybridize as some of the young ones have almost the exact same growth structure as my friends in Vic that is a confirmed maidenii yet the seed mother again looks vastly different and more like a melanoxylon in my previous pic.. Thats not to say that is where they came from but the distribution around that full grown tree suggests as much. The plot thickens..

See attached for example of the growth structure..

 

[acacian]

Ah didnt know that! I previously thought melanoxylon had much straighter pods and that was how they could be differentiated, :? now I am leaning towards melanoxylon because of the rough bark..I wonder if they hybridize as some of the young ones have almost the exact same growth structure as my friends in Vic that is a confirmed maidenii yet the seed mother again looks vastly different and more like a melanoxylon in my previous pic.. Thats not to say that is where they came from but the distribution around that full grown tree suggests as much. The plot thickens..

See attached for example of the growth structure..

I'm unsure whether you get hybridization between the differen't sections.. I don't see why they wouldn't .. but I am young in the school of acacia.. a juvenile acacian and they like to surprise me.. Very thick plot when acacia is involved .. we can be sure of that!

 

[samsara]

Hey guys,
Found those in northern NSW. Anyone knows what it might be?
Thanks

 

[DreaMTripper]

Yes that is a.blanka.