Acacia Confusa A/B tek ~ Searching for "Goo" answers! Plz help ~

[Satori1111]

Hello, first and foremost grand appreciation for this website and it's plethora of knowledge. The creators and members are a great asset to the cosmic/consciousness explorer! And for that we thank you.


So, here goes. Recent extraction with Acacia C via "Thick-Light a/b Tek". Premium Root Bark harvested using sustainable practices and methods, from a 20+ year old Acacia C.

All appears to have run smoothly, excellent Tek when followed to the minutest of details. Followed directions up until having a brain fart about which "Recommended Vessel" to use for Freeze precipitation ~~~~~~~~ In this case, a 500 ml mason jar was used for decanted naptha solution. I say this because through out many threads it is stressed upon that mason jars will do just fine, but for greater yielding results a rectangular Pyrex baking dish is preferred.

With that being said, after the remaining 10 hours are up for freeze precip (A fantastic amount of white xtals forming to sides and bottoms) and normal procedure is followed i.e (Quickly poor off naptha solution to a clean, usable container and drip dry mason jar in freezer upside down) My question is, is it ok to use the remaining naptha solution for 2nd and 3rd pulls? And if yes, should the naptha be gently warmed following safe procedures under low-moderate heat via (jar in warm water method).??

Any advice or suggestions welcome..

Remaining soupy solution keep in mind that was pre-mixed with 150 grams of Red Devil Lye, as suggested in "Thick-Light Tek" with a small amount of naptha that stayed with (for lack of proper equipment for optimum filtering/decanting).


So here is the final long story short question...

Would it be advised to go ahead and gently reheat the remaining Acacia soupy solution from pull 1, for pulls 2 and 3? If so, whats an advised tempature? Is more lye required to be added? Or should that answer reveal itself with proper PH testing?

Also, should a fresh batch of Naptha be used for each pull or is it advised/safe to use pre-used naptha from the first pull???

Thank you for any and all help, obviously i'm fairly illiterate and not well with proper condensing/assimilation of sentences and words.. ;-) I apologize in advance!

Namaste

 

[Ambivalent]

I would suggest you to re use the solvent. Its ok to heat it for the last pulls, and heat it until its warm, it doesnt have to be hot. Also introducing table salt to the basic solution is known to increase yields in the last pull's. Check Cyb's salt tek for more information on that.

 

[Satori1111]

Thank you Ambivalent

I'm checking out the Salt Tek next... What about adding more lye to the mix? Or shall I just rely on ph because that's really all were going for here right? And i'm loosing naptha after each pull, a slight amount. Is it ok to add maybe a 100ml or more if needed as long as one does not "over do it"? Maybe there's a rule of thumb for this kind circumstance?

Namaste

 

[Ambivalent]

i know what you mean by loosing naptha. i use one trick for that. i use a big syringe for this and suck the top layer where soup and naphtha are touching.you shouldnt waste much time to suck only the naphtha cause its damn hard. but the good thing is that the naphtha will separate inside the syringe and the basic solution will fall on the bottom of the syringe so you can squirt it back in your main vessel with basic soup. this is one cheap alternative.

 

[Satori1111]

Excellent! Thank you...

 

[Ambivalent]

no problem, happy sailing

 

[Satori1111]

I would suggest you to re use the solvent. Its ok to heat it for the last pulls, and heat it until its warm, it doesnt have to be hot. Also introducing table salt to the basic solution is known to increase yields in the last pull's. Check Cyb's salt tek for more information on that.

I've looked but can not find an answer... IYOP do you think that Himalayan Salt has the same relevance for this tek as "Table Salt" ?

Or is the generic synthetic ways of manufacture for "Table Salt" exactly what is needed?

I say this because Himalayan Salt has a full spectrum of minerals and nutrients uncommon to traditional table salt. Which in theory could contain "un-needed extra".

 

[Ambivalent]

i am not sure about the himalayan salt. minerals are usually present in small quantities per kilo in the salt. It should not interfere with your extraction, its my opinion.

 

[*oneironaut*]

I'm using ice cream salt... but can't imagine why table salt wouldn't work...

 

[Satori1111]

Just added 120 grams "sea salt" to 2nd pull.. Was not used on the first, but Naptha solution resulting from second pull with added salt appears much much more cloudy. Hopefully this suggests higher yields. Will be a real treat if Second pull produces more yields while purity remains.. We'll see! All suggest/comments welcome..


****All photos are from first pull, without salt additive****

The first photo shows total yield from first pull without Salt... Pretty happy with it over all, considering this is only the 2nd extraction ever attempted and with Acacia no doubt.


3rd photo indicates "Goey" unknown alkaloids.. Last photo is view from bottom indicating color difference.

Attempted to clean up what could not be scraped by doing a warm Naptha bath wash, stirring, and separating.. Goo is now in separate container with maybe 20 ml of Naptha freeze precipitating. The other half to the equation came out milky opuaqe color. That too, is now freeze precipitating.


Last photo is final result from SIDES of mason jar ONLY... The remainder that could not be scraped/different in color with a "Few" snow-globe pure white crystals was dissolved back into naptha, a "Warm water bath" to fully integrate the substance entailed to separate and re-xtlz. Final weight .37 .. From Sides only, so I think it's fair to say, had one used a Pyrex rectangular baking dish, perhaps yields would be easier to access and my guess is it may have resulted in a final yield weight of 1.5? maybe more?


It's late, I'm tired.. Words are sloppy... If any one can make sense of this hogwash and perhaps have some pointers/suggestions/questions/improvement idea's feel free!

Thanks

All suggest/comments welcome..

 

[Satori1111]

The following is 2nd and 3rd pull from Acacia Confusa using "Thick Light A/B Tek"


Perhaps some one can please help with figuring out why 2nd and 3rd pulls would result in mainly "goo".


Of course this is all hypothetical and questions are for mere curiosity, photos obtained and posted are that which were "found" online. I did not take them, nor have I or any one around me tried an extraction tek, I hear it may be illegal. Hence..


So, if Tek was followed to the T, measurements precise, etc, why would extraction produce perfect snow white xtals on first pull, and produce this there after?

Materials used was Acacia Confusa Hawaiian Root Bark from a 20+ aged tree.


The only thing we can possibly think of that would have caused this is perhaps leaving Acacia Base/Naptha combined in a "Hot water Bath" for an extended period of time. Perhaps the "mix" remained heated for far to long, extracting more then average plant oils/fats/ etc.. Any advice, suggestions, ideas or recommendations are most appreciated.

Thanks