I'd give Red Beard an A for efforts, forgive him for holding onto typical naive concepts around dmt and so? He's not teaching the world about dmt, he trying to dig a hole in his religion's concrete. If he continues he will learn, I hope he does.
Note his interest for the topic, the spark in his eyes. Yes he has it all wrong and upside down but he's trying his first steps to break out of something, and to me he illustrates something of the following: "We (hard core religions) are stalling ourselves outside the forgotten quintessential".
This leans to what downwardsfromzero mentioned:
...I second you on the tsunami of religiously-themed DMT interest, now - how to get this (re)introduced as the communion sacrament in the Evangelical Lutheran church? 500 years in, isn't it time they got up to date...
If there was one direction I considered open to back-to-plant-basics then it was the wika/witchcraft people. I approached them, did quite a few open rituals, learned to know some people all along, I really got a good idea on their focal plane, and guess what: they are far away from using entheo plants in their system. They claim to be the plant-cult under religions, but it's all theory when it comes to it. I never went for coven membership, it was too much romanticizing and I find it such a pity they lost their own deep roots. Could have been something beautiful. Admitted, the landscape of wika is heavily scattered and maybe some covens do work the plants, but the mainstream in my area is very far from it. They consider their selves rebels in life and cosmos, but it's all words and pose. My due respect if that makes someone happy to row like that.
The clear cut'n dry minded must be feeling quite uncomfortable by now :lol: . Why for heavens sake con-notate a religion to dmt to start with? I agree It's not necessary. For me the religion was of no gravity, the work with the plants is. I thought maybe those people have a few slick plant tricks in their practices, but I found mainly folk remedies and for spirit: alcohol, speaking of a bummer. It was a search for historic EU based entheogenic plant cult. Failed.
In the midst of a religious world I rather look for points of light, and I imagined given Red Beards enthusiasm that he was ready to learn about plant basics, wrong as he is as of now. People start somewhere?
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It's true, pitubo comes from a region where people are known to speak their mind quite black on white, and visitors there have often been surprised about this. I live more to the south and pituboans call our language 'soft' because we cloak more prudent what's on the mind. As kids we were always amazed by the verbal power and directness of our northern neighbors, it's a simple truth. Let's do what we learn from the plants: no panic. :thumb_up:
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