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Alien Contactee claims DMT "Artificial God Experience"
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John Smith
Rising Star
At 15:35 he is asserting that DMT is an artificial way to achieve the god experience and he was TOLD to spread this message.
Later on he goes on to describe the encounter with the entity and visions he received, but that piece about spreading the message about DMT does not fit anywhere within the whole story (love, creation of atom, visual diagram of tree/fruit, essense of beauty, experiment of human life...). Was the entity like "hey before you go back, can do us a favour and spread this message to humanity about artificialness of DMT ?". doesn't make sense.
Later on he goes on to describe the encounter with the entity and visions he received, but that piece about spreading the message about DMT does not fit anywhere within the whole story (love, creation of atom, visual diagram of tree/fruit, essense of beauty, experiment of human life...). Was the entity like "hey before you go back, can do us a favour and spread this message to humanity about artificialness of DMT ?". doesn't make sense.
River of Thoughts
Rising Star
Ok I decided to watch the video and I watched his body language be at odds with the words coming out of him. He had some kind of experience, but it wasn't the peaceful one he described. His body remembers what his mind cannot revisit. Whether it was a human or an alien incursion he experienced doesn't matter, it was still false. Even if the words he speaks are to some degree true, the basis in falsity shows: he said that this was humanity's last chance. It isn't. Fear is the tool of control; love is the tool of freedom: while his mouth spoke about love, his body spoke about fear. That's not from Creator Source or from any being or group in which God-consciousness is a guiding force. PS: before I watched the video I assumed an alien with a spaceship in this 3D reality not a multidimensional being... you can have evidence from seeing a physical alien... pics/technology samples etc...bricklaya said:
amazingino
Thanatonaut
John Smith said:
It does if you can only contact demons through DMT and if angels contact you only when they want. I think this is the message he is trying to formulate: don't be fooled by demons offering you things on DMT and trying to act as angels, it is artificial.
SentientBeing
Rising Star
River of Thoughts said:
I completely agree with what was last said. It seemed like he spoke about love but he said it angrily without a smile. To me that says he wasn't shown what true love is... How do you talk about pure love and not have a smile on your face?!?!?
Not sure what to make of this video, I watched the whole thing and a few things have come into my mind:
1.) He had an OBE, we all have, why is he so certain that the entities he spoke with are real? I think I've read a few reports here about people being told certain things by entities like the end of the world, things that have to do, etc, but what makes him so certain that his was the real deal?
2.) I do not believe the OBE's are a more "naturally induced" phenomena as opposed to DMT, aya, mushrooms, etc. Having had experience with both ends, they can lead right to the same results and what makes one more un-artificial than the other? It would be very prudent to know if this individual has had experience with DMT or other psychedelics, because a lot of the terms and ideas he was trying to portray he acted as if we would think it's so unimaginable, but a lot of what he said brought back memories or thoughts about things I have experienced myself.
Will watch part 2 when it's out.
1.) He had an OBE, we all have, why is he so certain that the entities he spoke with are real? I think I've read a few reports here about people being told certain things by entities like the end of the world, things that have to do, etc, but what makes him so certain that his was the real deal?
2.) I do not believe the OBE's are a more "naturally induced" phenomena as opposed to DMT, aya, mushrooms, etc. Having had experience with both ends, they can lead right to the same results and what makes one more un-artificial than the other? It would be very prudent to know if this individual has had experience with DMT or other psychedelics, because a lot of the terms and ideas he was trying to portray he acted as if we would think it's so unimaginable, but a lot of what he said brought back memories or thoughts about things I have experienced myself.
Will watch part 2 when it's out.
In my personal experience, and my personal opinion - Contact with aliens, entities, spirits, gods, elves, etc. is "all in your head".
The brain is a very tricky thing. It plays lots of tricks on you. Every hear of a night terror? Yea, that demon who came and visited you when your brain was stuck between sleep and awake is not really a demon at all. Its your brain playing tricks on you. Those F.B.I. agents pooping out of trees and spying on you? that's not the authorities, you just have schizophrenia...
My point is, the brain is a really funny thing. We are prisoners here in our biological / chemically balanced body until we die and then our spirits are free.
IMO - DMT is a very spiritual experience. Just keep in mind those elves, or that alien telling you DMT is bad might just be your fears from your subconscious talking to you, and telling you things that your head wants you to think, or have been thinking somewhere in the back of your mind. That doesn't make it less spiritual though. It still brings you to a place in your mind that allows you to look at life, and whats around differently. But it doesn't mean its all real.
I say this because I see a lot of posts of about what the entities say to them and they take it to anther level, and to me it seems a bit misguided. It seems like a path that will waste a lot of thought on the subject.
This is coming from someone who has been doing heavy psychedelics for over 30+ years in many forms and has been on both sides of the fence in that belief. In the end, I love what they can do, I love the awaking they give you. I love the dissolving of the ego. But- I really believe it is a state that your brain goes into, not a separate existential dimension where your being contacted by aliens who are giving you thoughts that are not your own.
The brain is a very tricky thing. It plays lots of tricks on you. Every hear of a night terror? Yea, that demon who came and visited you when your brain was stuck between sleep and awake is not really a demon at all. Its your brain playing tricks on you. Those F.B.I. agents pooping out of trees and spying on you? that's not the authorities, you just have schizophrenia...
My point is, the brain is a really funny thing. We are prisoners here in our biological / chemically balanced body until we die and then our spirits are free.
IMO - DMT is a very spiritual experience. Just keep in mind those elves, or that alien telling you DMT is bad might just be your fears from your subconscious talking to you, and telling you things that your head wants you to think, or have been thinking somewhere in the back of your mind. That doesn't make it less spiritual though. It still brings you to a place in your mind that allows you to look at life, and whats around differently. But it doesn't mean its all real.
I say this because I see a lot of posts of about what the entities say to them and they take it to anther level, and to me it seems a bit misguided. It seems like a path that will waste a lot of thought on the subject.
This is coming from someone who has been doing heavy psychedelics for over 30+ years in many forms and has been on both sides of the fence in that belief. In the end, I love what they can do, I love the awaking they give you. I love the dissolving of the ego. But- I really believe it is a state that your brain goes into, not a separate existential dimension where your being contacted by aliens who are giving you thoughts that are not your own.
I just don't find this guys account of meeting entities as genuine at all. The way he portrays such an experience sounds totally false. It has absolutely no ring of truth to it at all.
I wouldn't take him seriously in a zillion years.
I wouldn't take him seriously in a zillion years.
Tsuchinoko
Rising Star
I feel it's good to keep this quote in mind when dealing with spiritual, or occult matters:
In this book it is spoken of the Sephiroth & The Paths, of spirits & conjurations, of Gods, Spheres, Planes & many other things which may or may not exist. It is immaterial whether they exist or not. By doing certain things certain results follow; students are most earnestly warned against attributing objective reality or philosophical validity to any of them.
In this book it is spoken of the Sephiroth & The Paths, of spirits & conjurations, of Gods, Spheres, Planes & many other things which may or may not exist. It is immaterial whether they exist or not. By doing certain things certain results follow; students are most earnestly warned against attributing objective reality or philosophical validity to any of them.
^^^^^ LOL!
Anything Crowley said he said as deliberate misinformation. Even if it seems to apply. Sorry, but if there's anybody we should not put objective reality to, it's A.C. And that includes his quotes.
I'm just glad there was no Internet in the 1920's available to him.
Anything Crowley said he said as deliberate misinformation. Even if it seems to apply. Sorry, but if there's anybody we should not put objective reality to, it's A.C. And that includes his quotes.
I'm just glad there was no Internet in the 1920's available to him.
robertkawasaki
Rising Star
Looks like theres another upload for those interested..
robertkawasaki
Rising Star
can somebody please embed? thanks
unansweredquestions
Rising Star
just a small issue with part 1:
he says he had an OBE and drifted up towards the light. he says he couldnt turn back, he was attracted like a moth to a light. he also says his body collapsed.
heres my problem: ive had OBE's before and my understanding (and from how he described it) and outer body experience is felt as a total detachment to the body. he couldnt turn back and see his body- he stated that clearly.
how did he know his body dropped?
he was unaware of his body at this point, couldnt feel it, couldnt see it. How did he know it happened at that point in time?
Also, he's a bit patronising about the "you think you know" statements.
he says he had an OBE and drifted up towards the light. he says he couldnt turn back, he was attracted like a moth to a light. he also says his body collapsed.
heres my problem: ive had OBE's before and my understanding (and from how he described it) and outer body experience is felt as a total detachment to the body. he couldnt turn back and see his body- he stated that clearly.
how did he know his body dropped?
he was unaware of his body at this point, couldnt feel it, couldnt see it. How did he know it happened at that point in time?
Also, he's a bit patronising about the "you think you know" statements.
dmtlifestyle
Rising Star
The odds of someone winning the lotto are a lot greater because so many people are going for it. Not too many people pairing up plants and roots in the amazon. I'm also sure, if I remember correctly, that even though he did mention that about dmt, I don't think he specifically ever said that the beings told him this. I believe that his ideas and thoughts on dmt are his own. I know for a fact he's never tried it. I've had numerous trips that are far beyond anything he described. Even if his experience could not be explained fully, I have had trips that could not even begin to be explained or fathomed.
While he is no Terrence, I like that he's trying. Props for trying.
I like how he describes himself being attracted to the light like a moth.
I like that it was peaceful.
I don't like his chemical discrimination. I don't like that he said "he was told to spread" this "ANTI" message. Because I was told you are what you eat
ie "you gotta eat it"; As they say in Dune, "the spice is essential for space travel."
My opinion is that if we are "generous" in our interpretation of his experience, if we forgive his sloppy and condescending rhetoric "you don't know love, etc.," I think it's cool he had this experience and is sharing it.
The content is good, but a lot of the rhetoric, tone, and language did a dis-service to the content. But also the fact that he's not well versed in this topic strengthens the "download hypothesis."
my 2c
I like how he describes himself being attracted to the light like a moth.
I like that it was peaceful.
I don't like his chemical discrimination. I don't like that he said "he was told to spread" this "ANTI" message. Because I was told you are what you eat
ie "you gotta eat it"; As they say in Dune, "the spice is essential for space travel." My opinion is that if we are "generous" in our interpretation of his experience, if we forgive his sloppy and condescending rhetoric "you don't know love, etc.," I think it's cool he had this experience and is sharing it.
The content is good, but a lot of the rhetoric, tone, and language did a dis-service to the content. But also the fact that he's not well versed in this topic strengthens the "download hypothesis."
my 2c
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