• Members of the previous forum can retrieve their temporary password here, (login and check your PM).

alien language or SWIM'S own thoughts?

Migrated topic.
elofer

elofer

Rising Star
there is a very strange kind of language SWIM hears while he is out there, something he has actually heard several times before, on both lsd and ayahuasca.. a very flowing language that almost seems to echo/bounce and fold in on itself, though that description dosen't do it justice for its weirdness. there are even a bunch of " words" that SWIM hears repeated each time and can in the moment repeat but when he comes out of the space he canot repeat them, or perhaps he can sound them out but they don't have nearly the depth and scale they did in the space. SWIM may get a recorder and record some of this 'language'.
The though SWIM had though was that this wasn't 'alien' at all it was simply his thoughts warped in such an inconcievable way as to be unrecognizable as ones own thoughts.
and if it is an alien language I would really like to learn it as well as I know my own language.:?:
 
Hmm well its definitely there for one reason or another, does have some underlining purpose. Unfortunately I think your the only one who can answer it, you gonna have to meditate on that.

Unless there are others that post similar experiences, that could help.

Can't say that i can though! sorrrry!😉
 
I've found that language more often than not to be my own mind stuttering and every now and then I can pick some words out or slow the whole phrase down until it becomes audible as glitchy english... oddly enough most of what I get out of it are sexual references, which is very bizarre because DMT reduces my sex drive to non-existant levels. If I meditate on it the sound stops all together and my visions develop a lot clearer, then I get more concise meaningful messages that don't seem to form from any language at all.

Two syllables stuttering over and over with a short break 0.5 second break between repetitions in a high pitch voice is all I can decipher for the most part. Every other few reps, more syllables may come out but then it goes back to stuttering. "SaGa Sss Sa SaGa SaGa SaGaReMa Sa Ga" and lots of random variations in a similar theme, just pitched up quite high. It's almost like my brain can't think quick enough in that place and starts glitching like a computer trying to handle some software thats far to rich for it, but not in a way that would suggest inadequate mind function, because I can still think quite normally either side of it. More clear than on any other hallucinogen anyway. It's almost like some form of another infantile mind is waking up next my regular thought centre. It certainly sounds quite young and playful anyway. But it's all made up of me.

Very strange. But sooo interesting. Much pondering has been done on this.
 
thanks mooshy/soulfood! yeah SWIM has meditated on it..but its still a confusing thing...might just be one of those things that dosen't have an answer that is rationaly understandable..the "language" SWIM hears is quite complex kindof a " gershpiltzit shproingligtatey piltzitacklyway zzzintlyboing"...etc ..uhh but like I said the text is far to flat, not nearly enough DiMenTion to it. at any rate it seems very much to coincide with the visual aspects of the expperience and kina guide it, or perhaps distract it...mabey it is just a distraction...though I feel that the spice experience has alot to foccus on, prolly best not to wory about specifics and just try to get as much out of the short time it lasts.
 
It seems entirely possible that the audible sensations SWIY experienced could be originating from an autonomous entity of some sort. Maybe it's a preconditioning that will prepare SWIY for a more in depth interaction in the future? I'm sure just about all of us know that ayahuasca/DMT can engage an individual into an interaction with alienesque beings that appear to be independent from one's own consciousness. I've heard stories of people encountering entities while on LSD too. There are reports of people experiencing audible voices while on high doses of psilocybin which are commonly referred to as the Logos. They are reported to be very alien-like and intelligent. Psychedelics seem to break down the barriers of consciousness between a personal self and a Universal Self. When this happens, the possibilities become seemingly infinite.
 
yeah, SWIM has heard similar language on other entheos...just with spice there is alot more of it.
never forget one aya trip in the high desert of new mexico, went through several rainbow rings and after the last ring SWIM heard what sounded likea million trumpets and a billion angels singing the tone " AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH"
made SWIM cry it was so beautiful!!!:idea:
 
Whether autonomous or self-originated, I too get the distinct 'young and playful' vibe. This stands out to me because I am neither! I do wonder often about the 'unexpected' nature of the experiences that we have. Surely, if self-originated 'mind chatter' in nature these communications would feel more familiar? It's the sheer alien-like quality that spooks me. Although I'm sure that science would have a plausible explanation involving the malfunctioning brain firing its neurons wrong I can't help but feel that this communication originates outside of our 'selves'.
 
Yeah I guess so transitory..SWIM does still hear it's own thought as fairly understasndable/normal, Though it tries to keep the mind as silent as possible..especiallty during the spice time.
 
elofer

Yeah, the verbal dialogue can be bad. Much better to attempt to 'blank' the mind-chatter/thought process and just 'receive' whatever is happening without deliberate interpretation at the time. A string of thoughts can be put together any time. That which is revealed through the DMT experience is a gift and should IMHO be received as such. interpretation will follow later according to one's particular inclinations...
 
yup I definetly agree...I have been practicing keeping a silent mind for years and had some great success with it..there are times when I feel sooo friggin high and I'm sober as a monk!! have had some increadible visonary experiences in sobriety as well...jut keeping the mind silent. I think there is a kindof a switch that gets flipped when you keep it quiet for a certian amount of time
 
I havent heard any language on dmt and never had any type of language speak through me but i have encountered a type of glossilalia phenomenon on high doses of smoked salvia.

A friend and I tripped together on the patio a few weeks ago to see how our trips related since we'd been fascinated with trying to figure out what salvia does to you. I got stuck in one of those bizzare conscioussmatter gravity wheels of overlapping sensory input and saw a familiar dmt being appear out of a pine tree that was part of the wheel. As i was coming back my friend started speaking in a sort of hilarious glossilalia baby talk, only he and I knew exactly what he was saying at the time. He hadn't done it intentionally and got a little freaked out. Later that night i did an alone trip and got in a 3 minute conversation in that language with the pine tree. Memory recall on anything over 20x is terrible though.

I havnt done it since, and this was the only time i'd had any sort of wierd language appear.. The only thing i've heard of that even remotely relates to it is the ur sprack type of visual language people say can happen on dmt or psilocybin.

Whats happening to you on dmt is probably just your own mind chatter, or maybe something related to this, who knows. Only way to maybe find out is to go back in but quiet your mind.
 
It's no just auditory though.

I have been 'spoken to' with an apparently alien mixture of sound/shape/frequency and 'other' senses that I have not previously encountered. Usually quite rapid. My brain was not able to process this data. Afterwards so little memory remains ... so frustrating. The language appears to somehow operate upon me- place things in me? I cannot explain but it definitely occurs.
 
there are alien thoughts... parts of the human psyche that have not been explored or discovered and have not yet been perceived as part of the psyche. Thus being perceived as other and alien.
 
universe cannon..SWIM is still able to hear its own thoghts when they are there and when they do show up it seams that what It hear is either an echo or a reply to those thoughts
 
Swim gets the weird echo language as well, lots of "sproingly boinglys, oodle oodles and pings" etc. The language is quite high pitched and does 'seem' to be autonomous, however he finds his internal dialogue to have the same echoes. But reading Elofer's " gershpiltzit shproingligtatey piltzitacklyway zzzintlyboing" brought back some strange fun memories.
 
Back
Top Bottom