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Uncle Knucles said:
Much love for this post :d . I feel like I have the conscious ability to understand the universe finally.
Right now though we're bonded by reality, and separated by egos. The message I brought back from hyperspace was to dissolve all egos in the world.
I will most likely face extreme opposition by teaching this way of life to people if I continue to where it becomes as popular as a religion, akin to Jesus dying for telling humanity about their consciousness. Just came to the realization that Jesus died because of our sins, not for them. Some people (mainly people in the government) at that age didn't want to or couldn't comprehend what he was trying to tell them, and because their ego's were in conflict with Jesus' teachings, he died because of it.
I was being sarcastic.
a1pha said:
Haha yes, I'll forever be battling with me ego to try and come off as humble as possible. When I was a kid I was an egotistical asshole and only had friends who were like minded. Now I can talk to anyone now that I see everyone as an alternate version of me living in the same moment as me, but they are just merely living in a different external environment
Ok, I can totally sense the attitude shift in these posts. So besides that person being sarcastic and the lovely troll Jesus image, does anyone want to give me a logical counter argument and provide useful input instead of this light-hearted sarcasm? I want real input to what I wrote, it took time to write and I think I deserve your honest conscious opinion on it. And I mean like analyze this theory and point out the flaws in it.
You can be blunt and brutal, but just be brutally honest.
You can be blunt and brutal, but just be brutally honest.
dear Alexicus,
your theory certainly has some interesting points but the in the end it is just a theory. The idea of dark matter being where consicousness goes after it leaves the body is certainly a new idea to me, but I don't see how it affects anything else you were saying. The idea to live a life accumulating as much happiness is a good start but of course given the complexity of this world we have to be relative about this. If it gave you happiness to hurt others I don't think this would be appropriate, nor a good life on a global scale. But of course I couldn't say for certain.
I think no one here really has a problem with your theory. It's always interesting to hear other people's thoughts on how the universe works, at least to me it is. Your version of it is just as good as anyone elses. The problem that I see with it though, and I think I'm not alone here, is that you think you have some kind of super-knowledge on your hands here and have to teach it to others.
Now think about it this way: you yourself have had to figure this out for your self. Possibly the fact that it came out of your own consciousness is what makes this theory so valuable to you, and anyone who was to simply listen to it, would not even gain half of the deeper insights (those that can't be expressed by words) as you have.
In gnosticism the experience of God first hand was one of the most important experiences a practitioner could have. Each individual has to reach this experience for himself though. No one can give it to them. Personally I think the system doctrine-student is flawed. If you have found your personal path and know which way to go, I salute you, and wish you the best of luck on it. But you cannot make other people walk YOUR path nor believe in your truths without them losing their own way. Certainly there are things that we all have in common and that's why it's always interesting to read other people's insights, but these things cannot be taught or transmitted like instructions to an ik3a piece of furniture. The process of finding these insights IMO is by far more important than the insights themselves, once they are put into words.
So to summarize, the criticism here is that you should not try to teach or indoctrinat or bring people to YOUR level. First of all perhaps we are not all meant to be on the same level, and more likely there is no ONE level of ultimate goodness, but things are a bit more complex and dynamic. Second of all your level might not really be any better than the ones the others are on already, you might just not see it this way. It could be that your perception is flawed and you just don't see the bigger picture, even though you think you do. This is something you should always consider. But looking at your posts it seems that you are very sure of yourself and your vision of the world, and this in general will only hinder you from learning more about the world in all it's strangeness and beauty.
Don't know if you get where I'm coming from. I've met quite a few of your kind - the kind that want to teach/preach - and it's usually impossible to get through to them. And usually it's quite sad because in general it's not un-interesting talking to them... if only they would stop preaching...
all the best to you
your theory certainly has some interesting points but the in the end it is just a theory. The idea of dark matter being where consicousness goes after it leaves the body is certainly a new idea to me, but I don't see how it affects anything else you were saying. The idea to live a life accumulating as much happiness is a good start but of course given the complexity of this world we have to be relative about this. If it gave you happiness to hurt others I don't think this would be appropriate, nor a good life on a global scale. But of course I couldn't say for certain.
I think no one here really has a problem with your theory. It's always interesting to hear other people's thoughts on how the universe works, at least to me it is. Your version of it is just as good as anyone elses. The problem that I see with it though, and I think I'm not alone here, is that you think you have some kind of super-knowledge on your hands here and have to teach it to others.
Now think about it this way: you yourself have had to figure this out for your self. Possibly the fact that it came out of your own consciousness is what makes this theory so valuable to you, and anyone who was to simply listen to it, would not even gain half of the deeper insights (those that can't be expressed by words) as you have.
In gnosticism the experience of God first hand was one of the most important experiences a practitioner could have. Each individual has to reach this experience for himself though. No one can give it to them. Personally I think the system doctrine-student is flawed. If you have found your personal path and know which way to go, I salute you, and wish you the best of luck on it. But you cannot make other people walk YOUR path nor believe in your truths without them losing their own way. Certainly there are things that we all have in common and that's why it's always interesting to read other people's insights, but these things cannot be taught or transmitted like instructions to an ik3a piece of furniture. The process of finding these insights IMO is by far more important than the insights themselves, once they are put into words.
So to summarize, the criticism here is that you should not try to teach or indoctrinat or bring people to YOUR level. First of all perhaps we are not all meant to be on the same level, and more likely there is no ONE level of ultimate goodness, but things are a bit more complex and dynamic. Second of all your level might not really be any better than the ones the others are on already, you might just not see it this way. It could be that your perception is flawed and you just don't see the bigger picture, even though you think you do. This is something you should always consider. But looking at your posts it seems that you are very sure of yourself and your vision of the world, and this in general will only hinder you from learning more about the world in all it's strangeness and beauty.
Don't know if you get where I'm coming from. I've met quite a few of your kind - the kind that want to teach/preach - and it's usually impossible to get through to them. And usually it's quite sad because in general it's not un-interesting talking to them... if only they would stop preaching...
all the best to you
Gowpen
If you don't make mistakes, you are doing it wro
ummmmm. To be able to take critique from one's peers is a GOOD thing. Uncle Knucles has a reputation for being 'brutally honest'. But it comes on good recommendation he is WELL worth the time to read, his posts.
But....... this site is mainly about Entheogens generally, more particularly DMT, and their 'safe' and appropriate use. When/if you become a full member you will see what a rabbit warren looks like from the perspective of a reflection of Human interaction with DMT, Psychedelics and Entheogens, I think ! It is VAST deep and wide.
However, If Buddha Jesus and Mohamed sat down for a chat I'm not sure there would be a lot of conversation going on, just a lot of laughing and smiling.:lol: :lol:
Welcome to here. My advice, for what its worth, is to plant a tree (DMT) write a book and replace yourself. Be comfortable with your human existence, from age 20 to 40 comes VERY quickly. Your statements tell a lot about you. Not the content but the attitude. Waking others up who have no ability to do so themselves might well be a fruitless mission.
There are so many awake people here, I fear you are preaching to the converted, and thus wasting precious time. There is no need to prove anything here.
Mans true power grows as his knowledge widens.
Even the path he can follow grows narrower,
until at last he does only and wholly what he must do.
Menander 283 bc.
Love to hear about your travels, and remember you are with friends here, treat them as such and see what happens. I am not surprised you are intelligent, you can write, think and you found this site. :lol: You show good promise Grasshopper !! :lol:
Regards Gowpen
But....... this site is mainly about Entheogens generally, more particularly DMT, and their 'safe' and appropriate use. When/if you become a full member you will see what a rabbit warren looks like from the perspective of a reflection of Human interaction with DMT, Psychedelics and Entheogens, I think ! It is VAST deep and wide.
However, If Buddha Jesus and Mohamed sat down for a chat I'm not sure there would be a lot of conversation going on, just a lot of laughing and smiling.:lol: :lol:
Welcome to here. My advice, for what its worth, is to plant a tree (DMT) write a book and replace yourself. Be comfortable with your human existence, from age 20 to 40 comes VERY quickly. Your statements tell a lot about you. Not the content but the attitude. Waking others up who have no ability to do so themselves might well be a fruitless mission.
There are so many awake people here, I fear you are preaching to the converted, and thus wasting precious time. There is no need to prove anything here.
Mans true power grows as his knowledge widens.
Even the path he can follow grows narrower,
until at last he does only and wholly what he must do.
Menander 283 bc.
Love to hear about your travels, and remember you are with friends here, treat them as such and see what happens. I am not surprised you are intelligent, you can write, think and you found this site. :lol: You show good promise Grasshopper !! :lol:
Regards Gowpen
I would like to ask benzyme and others posting in this thread to please be respectful in your criticism, as our required attitude states.
Alexicus... As enoon and gowpen said, the issue isnt so much about your theory, but about how you write. But before I get to that, Ill just mention a couple of things about your theories.
Things I agree with:
- A synergy between science and a more 'spiritual' or 'existentially-questioning' world view is very beneficial for a broader fulfilling existence
- Different religions had a similar "base" of truth (though they have all been deliberately edited, or mistranslated and misunderstood, taken out of context, etc)
- Heaven and hell can be states of mind.
- There is a Oneness, life is somehow the universe experiencing itself (if creation is from unity to multiplicity, evolution is from multiplicity back to unity)
Things I dont agree with or find innacurate, misleading or unnecessary speculation:
- Dark matter = souls, or awareness. Sounds unique view but where did you get to this conclusion, what evidence or experience backed this up for you? You say the fact that the universe is pretty aware of itself correlates to dark matter making up a big part of the universe, but in saying that you have set yourself into an experimental trap: If dark matter can be shown to be significantly increasing the last hundred years in an exponential way, at least it doesnt disprove your point, but if dark matter has not been increasing and has been the same for thousands of years, your theory has already been disproven. Enoon might be able to talk about this because she's very knowledgeable about physics, I have no idea if dark matter amounts are changing.
- After death, X happens ... Whatever it is you say about that, is complete speculation, it isnt any more probable than ANY theory out there (flying spaggheti monster, when we die we are reborn as bedsheets, when humans die they go to heaven or to hell, whatever else you want to invent). I really suggest you check out Gibran2's Improbability of Hyperspace thread regarding these kind of claims.
- "So there was a state of nothingness, then the Creator decided to start the universe. The Creator is most likely just some form of particle that somehow became conscious of itself in the singularity that was pre-big gang. Some scientists have referred to this as the God particle." <- that is as bad a creation myth as any other, and it will always lead to "but who created the creator" kind of questions. Ultimately, the beginning will always be a mistery. IMO you are just putting some words to replace the mistery but it doesnt really solve it at all, and it might prevent you from standing in awe at how the fact that 'anything exists at all' is amazing in the first place.
- You mention gravity and yet you have made not a single step, apparently, in explaining how to unify gravity with the other forces, or how does relativity relate to quantum theory, and all sorts of interesting questions that you seem to miss out in your model (and yet you claim to be The One who found out the answer to life's misteries). I guess you are just not knowledgeable in physics enough to make attempt at explaining these things (neither am I), but then you shouldnt pretend to in the first place.
- Appart from the dark matter aspect, all you said is NOT a theory because you make no falsifiable claims.. What you have there are BELIEFS, like the christians have their beliefs and the muslims have theirs... And all of them explain their beliefs with tales, like yours, which if you poke at it you find they arent very solid at all.
- I see no practical aspects in your theory. How can one really help another human being grow? How should education be organized? What is the ideal economic system ? How do we deal with excess population? What to do if someone rapped and killed your closed one? Should prisons exist, and if not, how do we deal with those doing harm to others? How can we become more sustainable? How to deal with crack addicts? What is the ideal diet, should people be vegetarians or meat consumers or depends? Is it better to eat an organic product from far or a non-organic product from close? Should I buy the avocados that come from small producer but wrapped in plastic and in styrofoam box, or buy the avocado from big producer that comes in reusable wooden crates? Do governments need to exist, and if not, how to structure society? How can we find a balance between moderating the nexus and letting things run their natural course (lol ) ? You see, there are a thousand different questions that are very important and are actually "life's misteries", and yet you dont touch any of them. You remain in a very convenient 'airy' belief that does not touch on the real questions people have about their lives.
Now, enough about your theories, Id like to mention about your attitude. First of, I want to quote from our attitude page, which I hope you read:
So you see, while thankfully you havent lacked direct respect here, you do come off as very preachy, and this has no place here. You see, there are all kinds of people here, who age from 18 to 60+, many people who have dedicated their lives to becoming more and more aware about themselves, through psychedelics, meditation, martial arts and/or all sorts of other paths. Many members have made great efforts and overcome great difficulties in their lives, trying to find balance between physical, emotional, intellectual and spiritual/existential health, while juggling with the situations life brings. Many here have AMAZING feats in their lives, things most have no clue about, the level of difficulties they have overcome, the balance they have been able to maintain, and yet these people arent preaching others here, they arent saying what the universe is about or what are life's misteries, they are rather being mutually supportive to everybody on the path.
I think that it happens, once you have a certain level of development, that one realizes there is no end to personal development, that it keeps going till the day we die. The ego for example, it doesnt stop growing, so we must always make an effort to trim it down and keep it in its place. If one says they have conquered one's ego, I would think that is a clear indication one hasnt.
See, I can tell you about myself, not sure if your case is the same but maybe its similar.. When I was younger, early teenage days, I was a very strong minded person, and saw things others did that were not right. I was very critical and questionning.. Then psychedelics entered my life, and I thought I saw something so obvious about life and the universe, I couldnt believe how others didnt see. I felt myself as clearly standing above the crowd, as a kind of super-human-being, much more aware and conscious than others. I suspect this is where you are standing now. Just to give you an idea, I even started writting a book about how the universe worked, what was god all about, etc. But then you know what happened? LIFE...... It just humbled me when I stepped out of the comfort zone and actually had to overcome very difficult life situations.
You see, its very easy to have all these theories and write from one's armchair, and it all makes sense. But once you travel to very different countries and get faced with contrasts, once you fall in love and have your heart broken, once a close-one dies, once real sickness comes, once you have difficulty finding a job and paying the bills, once you face some kind of real moral dillema, once a real ayahuasca slaps you in the face, all those theories go out the window, and you see the nakedness of human experience, and you see how you are just a spiritual child, still crawling in the beginning of one's path.
You arent any more special than anybody else, and even though you said you know this, I dont think you realy 'feel' it because you constantly make remarks about how you are the one who found answer to life's misteries and so on. IMO before you found the answer to life's misteries, you must go out there and live life, and see what the real misteries and dilemas actually are. Buddha didnt get enlightened from his original palace, he had to go out there and see what life is about before he really found out about things (though I dont believe in a permanent state of enlightenment, I like the analogy)
You mentioned "wise and intelligent" as characteristics for developed people, but that is only a part of it. You see, you maybe intelligent for some things, but I bet you arent for others. There are several types of intelligences and skills.. Maybe you are intellectually advanced, but maybe you are not good in interpersonal relationships.. Or maybe you are good in both, but maybe you are not dedicating yourself to physical balance/diet/exercise/body control. Maybe you have that, but maybe you dont have enough empathy. Maybe you dont have enough patience. etc etc etc.. Every person has their own level of these different skills, intelligences, and their unique contextual balance between those different things and awareness. Its not easy to judge others and put them into levels once you see how complex humans actually are
Last, but not least, you must question yourself what is it that you are actually doing here in this community in the first place. You came saying you wanted to become a member so you could write a huge post about how the universe works.... ??? I mean, think about it, dont you find that arrogant and single sided? Instead of coming here to want to share your views, but also learn, to give and to receive, you just want to tell us about your views. And then the only other posts you made elsewhere were to tell others to read your own 'theory'. This is not the kind of people we want here. This is not a community for one-sided communication, for people preaching and only receiving answers that go along with their views. 'learn, share, expand', as the forum banners say... There is no 'teach', there, you see, and even if there was, it wouldnt be by itself. So if you really want to be a part of this community, I suggest you rethink your attitude and question what is it that you really want here. If this reflects your attitude elsewhere, I suspect you are going to have a lot of negative responses in your actions out there in the world.
Anyways I already wrote enough. I just felt like extending a bit because a couple of posts before lacked quality and thoroughness, and before you are cut down because of your preaching, I want you to be given the reasons why that preaching is out of place here, and why you should reconsider and rethink your plans in being here and how to act in life in general.
Be well!
PS: I think the Nexus is way beyond your, mine and anyone else's level. It is the synergy of all members, all the collective efforts, accumulated information and rightful attitude that makes this place unique. We all can learn a lot, every single day here.
Alexicus... As enoon and gowpen said, the issue isnt so much about your theory, but about how you write. But before I get to that, Ill just mention a couple of things about your theories.
Things I agree with:
- A synergy between science and a more 'spiritual' or 'existentially-questioning' world view is very beneficial for a broader fulfilling existence
- Different religions had a similar "base" of truth (though they have all been deliberately edited, or mistranslated and misunderstood, taken out of context, etc)
- Heaven and hell can be states of mind.
- There is a Oneness, life is somehow the universe experiencing itself (if creation is from unity to multiplicity, evolution is from multiplicity back to unity)
Things I dont agree with or find innacurate, misleading or unnecessary speculation:
- Dark matter = souls, or awareness. Sounds unique view but where did you get to this conclusion, what evidence or experience backed this up for you? You say the fact that the universe is pretty aware of itself correlates to dark matter making up a big part of the universe, but in saying that you have set yourself into an experimental trap: If dark matter can be shown to be significantly increasing the last hundred years in an exponential way, at least it doesnt disprove your point, but if dark matter has not been increasing and has been the same for thousands of years, your theory has already been disproven. Enoon might be able to talk about this because she's very knowledgeable about physics, I have no idea if dark matter amounts are changing.
- After death, X happens ... Whatever it is you say about that, is complete speculation, it isnt any more probable than ANY theory out there (flying spaggheti monster, when we die we are reborn as bedsheets, when humans die they go to heaven or to hell, whatever else you want to invent). I really suggest you check out Gibran2's Improbability of Hyperspace thread regarding these kind of claims.
- "So there was a state of nothingness, then the Creator decided to start the universe. The Creator is most likely just some form of particle that somehow became conscious of itself in the singularity that was pre-big gang. Some scientists have referred to this as the God particle." <- that is as bad a creation myth as any other, and it will always lead to "but who created the creator" kind of questions. Ultimately, the beginning will always be a mistery. IMO you are just putting some words to replace the mistery but it doesnt really solve it at all, and it might prevent you from standing in awe at how the fact that 'anything exists at all' is amazing in the first place.
- You mention gravity and yet you have made not a single step, apparently, in explaining how to unify gravity with the other forces, or how does relativity relate to quantum theory, and all sorts of interesting questions that you seem to miss out in your model (and yet you claim to be The One who found out the answer to life's misteries). I guess you are just not knowledgeable in physics enough to make attempt at explaining these things (neither am I), but then you shouldnt pretend to in the first place.
- Appart from the dark matter aspect, all you said is NOT a theory because you make no falsifiable claims.. What you have there are BELIEFS, like the christians have their beliefs and the muslims have theirs... And all of them explain their beliefs with tales, like yours, which if you poke at it you find they arent very solid at all.
- I see no practical aspects in your theory. How can one really help another human being grow? How should education be organized? What is the ideal economic system ? How do we deal with excess population? What to do if someone rapped and killed your closed one? Should prisons exist, and if not, how do we deal with those doing harm to others? How can we become more sustainable? How to deal with crack addicts? What is the ideal diet, should people be vegetarians or meat consumers or depends? Is it better to eat an organic product from far or a non-organic product from close? Should I buy the avocados that come from small producer but wrapped in plastic and in styrofoam box, or buy the avocado from big producer that comes in reusable wooden crates? Do governments need to exist, and if not, how to structure society? How can we find a balance between moderating the nexus and letting things run their natural course (lol ) ? You see, there are a thousand different questions that are very important and are actually "life's misteries", and yet you dont touch any of them. You remain in a very convenient 'airy' belief that does not touch on the real questions people have about their lives.
Now, enough about your theories, Id like to mention about your attitude. First of, I want to quote from our attitude page, which I hope you read:
attitude page said:
So you see, while thankfully you havent lacked direct respect here, you do come off as very preachy, and this has no place here. You see, there are all kinds of people here, who age from 18 to 60+, many people who have dedicated their lives to becoming more and more aware about themselves, through psychedelics, meditation, martial arts and/or all sorts of other paths. Many members have made great efforts and overcome great difficulties in their lives, trying to find balance between physical, emotional, intellectual and spiritual/existential health, while juggling with the situations life brings. Many here have AMAZING feats in their lives, things most have no clue about, the level of difficulties they have overcome, the balance they have been able to maintain, and yet these people arent preaching others here, they arent saying what the universe is about or what are life's misteries, they are rather being mutually supportive to everybody on the path.
I think that it happens, once you have a certain level of development, that one realizes there is no end to personal development, that it keeps going till the day we die. The ego for example, it doesnt stop growing, so we must always make an effort to trim it down and keep it in its place. If one says they have conquered one's ego, I would think that is a clear indication one hasnt.
See, I can tell you about myself, not sure if your case is the same but maybe its similar.. When I was younger, early teenage days, I was a very strong minded person, and saw things others did that were not right. I was very critical and questionning.. Then psychedelics entered my life, and I thought I saw something so obvious about life and the universe, I couldnt believe how others didnt see. I felt myself as clearly standing above the crowd, as a kind of super-human-being, much more aware and conscious than others. I suspect this is where you are standing now. Just to give you an idea, I even started writting a book about how the universe worked, what was god all about, etc. But then you know what happened? LIFE...... It just humbled me when I stepped out of the comfort zone and actually had to overcome very difficult life situations.
You see, its very easy to have all these theories and write from one's armchair, and it all makes sense. But once you travel to very different countries and get faced with contrasts, once you fall in love and have your heart broken, once a close-one dies, once real sickness comes, once you have difficulty finding a job and paying the bills, once you face some kind of real moral dillema, once a real ayahuasca slaps you in the face, all those theories go out the window, and you see the nakedness of human experience, and you see how you are just a spiritual child, still crawling in the beginning of one's path.
You arent any more special than anybody else, and even though you said you know this, I dont think you realy 'feel' it because you constantly make remarks about how you are the one who found answer to life's misteries and so on. IMO before you found the answer to life's misteries, you must go out there and live life, and see what the real misteries and dilemas actually are. Buddha didnt get enlightened from his original palace, he had to go out there and see what life is about before he really found out about things (though I dont believe in a permanent state of enlightenment, I like the analogy)
You mentioned "wise and intelligent" as characteristics for developed people, but that is only a part of it. You see, you maybe intelligent for some things, but I bet you arent for others. There are several types of intelligences and skills.. Maybe you are intellectually advanced, but maybe you are not good in interpersonal relationships.. Or maybe you are good in both, but maybe you are not dedicating yourself to physical balance/diet/exercise/body control. Maybe you have that, but maybe you dont have enough empathy. Maybe you dont have enough patience. etc etc etc.. Every person has their own level of these different skills, intelligences, and their unique contextual balance between those different things and awareness. Its not easy to judge others and put them into levels once you see how complex humans actually are
Last, but not least, you must question yourself what is it that you are actually doing here in this community in the first place. You came saying you wanted to become a member so you could write a huge post about how the universe works.... ??? I mean, think about it, dont you find that arrogant and single sided? Instead of coming here to want to share your views, but also learn, to give and to receive, you just want to tell us about your views. And then the only other posts you made elsewhere were to tell others to read your own 'theory'. This is not the kind of people we want here. This is not a community for one-sided communication, for people preaching and only receiving answers that go along with their views. 'learn, share, expand', as the forum banners say... There is no 'teach', there, you see, and even if there was, it wouldnt be by itself. So if you really want to be a part of this community, I suggest you rethink your attitude and question what is it that you really want here. If this reflects your attitude elsewhere, I suspect you are going to have a lot of negative responses in your actions out there in the world.
Anyways I already wrote enough. I just felt like extending a bit because a couple of posts before lacked quality and thoroughness, and before you are cut down because of your preaching, I want you to be given the reasons why that preaching is out of place here, and why you should reconsider and rethink your plans in being here and how to act in life in general.
Be well!
PS: I think the Nexus is way beyond your, mine and anyone else's level. It is the synergy of all members, all the collective efforts, accumulated information and rightful attitude that makes this place unique. We all can learn a lot, every single day here.
tetra
BaconBerry
Alexicus said:
Oh, lord that explains so much! Now I feel better for being sarcastic. I knew it all when I was your age, too.
I'll tell you this, though: the difference between 20 and 30 is so vast you will only truly understand when you get there. I am 31 and thinking back to 20 . . . oh lord . . . I knew it all, I was a genius, everyone was stupid but me. I know better now, and given the humbling power of time, you will too.
And about the unrelenting hubris of you comparing yourself to Christ: according to the stories, and let us just call them stories, Christ did not begin his ministry until he was thirty years old. Just something to meditate on. (Definition of HUBRIS: "Hubris, also hybris, means extreme pride or arrogance. Hubris often indicates a loss of contact with reality and an overestimation of one's own competence or capabilities" )
Pup Tentacle
lettuce
Welcome to the Nexus Alexicus.
I am curious.
If you feel that you've gotten to the top of the heap as far as human wisdom and consciousness and have discovered how the cosmos works, why call it a "theory" and not a "truth"? Also, Why solicit the opinions of others on this theory?
Blessings
I am curious.
If you feel that you've gotten to the top of the heap as far as human wisdom and consciousness and have discovered how the cosmos works, why call it a "theory" and not a "truth"? Also, Why solicit the opinions of others on this theory?
Blessings
Hi Alexicus. I'm interested in how you came to the conclusion that dark matter is consciousness? Also if dark matter makes up 80% of the universe then there must be life everywhere in the universe. I find it strange that jesus didn't come to the same conclusion as you.
For the record though, i don't think jesus ever existed. Well there's no proof ive ever seen that he existed.
For the record though, i don't think jesus ever existed. Well there's no proof ive ever seen that he existed.
longshot
Enrique
tetra said:
Why would this be with so many 20yo's ?
Is it maybe our rather primal brain that is hardwired to be so self-assured at the age of +-20 to be able to compete with other males in the social group so we could impress females and earn the right to reproduce ?
Or it just could be a lack of wordly experience -.-
tetra said:
I couldn't agree more. I'm 30 myself, and I found my 20s to be such a greater amount of change than even my teenage years. I don't know what my 30s will bring, but I'm sure when I'm 40, I'll look back and be staggered at the change and progression I have made since 30.
We are always learning, we are always evolving. Whilst we're always making progress, there will always be progress to be made.
As for an absolute truth; I believe this to be impossible (at least currently) as a human being. The universe/multiverse/omniverse/everythingness is so vast, and eternal, and varied, and paradoxical; that the possibilities are as infinite as eternity itself.
Peace
Macre
endlessness made some really good points, and I just wanted to emphasize this:
I mean it's so EASY to think you have it all figured out after a strong psychedelic experience or meditation or whatever. The things you observe seem so real and coherent and direct that there can be no question about it, like way more real than this 3D reality. But how can you be 100% sure that it wasn't just a hallucination? Just like how can you be sure that you aren't hallucinating right now? Just like how can you know what consciousness even is? That's why absolute truths are very absurd. You can never know anything. Except when you die, then MAYBE you'll find out which theory was the closest (or that they're all equally far).
Like it has been said many times, people here in the nexus don't like preaching or self-centeredness, and for good reason. But whatever you do, do not take it personally, just take it as a chance to re-evaluate and question your beliefs and attitude and therefore having even more growth. Listening is a lot more important than talking.
edit: Oh, and welcome to the nexus.
Also I've noticed lately that many people (especially young) who are supposed to be "enlightened" and aware of what the ego really is, become actually more egoistical than what they used to be. It's a bit ironic. And I have this same problem and it's one of the things I hate most about myself. But whenever I notice I'm starting to have egoistical thoughts I give myself a mental slap and just try to remind myself how microscopically small we all are in this universe and its timeline.endlessness said:
I mean it's so EASY to think you have it all figured out after a strong psychedelic experience or meditation or whatever. The things you observe seem so real and coherent and direct that there can be no question about it, like way more real than this 3D reality. But how can you be 100% sure that it wasn't just a hallucination? Just like how can you be sure that you aren't hallucinating right now? Just like how can you know what consciousness even is? That's why absolute truths are very absurd. You can never know anything. Except when you die, then MAYBE you'll find out which theory was the closest (or that they're all equally far).
Like it has been said many times, people here in the nexus don't like preaching or self-centeredness, and for good reason. But whatever you do, do not take it personally, just take it as a chance to re-evaluate and question your beliefs and attitude and therefore having even more growth. Listening is a lot more important than talking.
edit: Oh, and welcome to the nexus.
That's actually a very good point.longshot said:
Skyblaze
Rising Star
A critical deconstruction was requested on my thread regarding this theory <MontyPython>and that what it is, and who's it is, and that which it is too </MontyPython>), but I decided to move my response over to here, for the sake of keeping my introduction essay thread relevant to itself.
If you want a non-critical feedback:
A theory more consistant than others I've seen. Insightful to an extent, good work. Many, many citations needed though, and a complete rephrasal.
If you want a critical feedback:
Before I begin deep analysis here, I'm going to put my summary at the start; it's a quote of a quote which I deeply agree with, seen on the first page of my essay:
And now my reply:
Additionally; high doses of IV-DMT has caused cardiac arrest.
All credit due, it is a well-developed theory, with interesting notions, insight and the such, but as should be clear from my essaythread which you claimed to read, I am a person to approach this critically and dispassionately, especially as my own personal ponderances and musings conflict with it. If you want advice, were you to rewrite it, do more reseach on terms to realise some of which were used incorrectly, and clear up the conflictions within the theory itself.
But after all, existance, truth, the such... I still maintain it to be subjective. If this is a truth that works for you, the explains, fufills, expands, and makes sense, then it must be true to you. I've already explained I feel that right and wrong are arbitrary concepts, which you should be aware of having read my thread.
Peace out! (My fingers need a rest)
Also, yo Cellux! How you doin'? :d
If you want a non-critical feedback:
A theory more consistant than others I've seen. Insightful to an extent, good work. Many, many citations needed though, and a complete rephrasal.
If you want a critical feedback:
Before I begin deep analysis here, I'm going to put my summary at the start; it's a quote of a quote which I deeply agree with, seen on the first page of my essay:
cellux said:
And now my reply:
Dark matter is not a force. Nor have I seeen any reasoning in this as to why this is linked to consciousness. We do not, I wager, contain any dark matter within us, and a claim that we are linked to matter far from us is... antiproductive. What makes dark matter so different from normal matter than consciousness can exist within it and not our brains? The fact that the methods of consciousness are unknown and that dark matter is intangible does not a connection form.Alexicus said:
Citation needed. The progression from chaos to order somewhere in a system so vast it can be faithfully modelled as infinite is no indication of a driving entity, indeed, it's statistically probable.Alexicus said:
Untrue. Evolution explains matter becoming self-replicating. A being that can react to external stimulai is more successful than one that can't. It's a very logical progression. However, a point I will concede is that my state of consciousness cannot, as far as I can wager, account for my perceptions, my senses. How am I aware, how can what I see exist within my head as life, is a very valid point, and one on which I can offer no insight. Your theory is as good as mine. (My theory being that I only believe that I am alive, and am not necessarily so, which makes more sense than on first inspection)Alexicus said:
I am.Alexicus said:
I continue to think when I dream, when I'm knocked out, etc. I simply suffer amnesia about the experience. Death is the only true end to consciousness (by definition) [also debatable though, depends if you subscribe to theories of afterlife or not], however, you are reasoning later that it is not. There lies a deep contradiction here.Alexicus said:
People have died off the synthetic variation of the molecule because it is toxic. Equally there have been no recorded deaths directly attributable to MDMA, yet that is a solely recreational drug. Equally, marijuana's fame for being completely harmless is also under dispute, I would argue, and I believe many people on this board would agree, entheogenics are not good necessarily. You also have switched between an evolutionary-based theory of consciousness to a creationism-view.Alexicus said:
Additionally; high doses of IV-DMT has caused cardiac arrest.
Citation needed.Alexicus said:
Disagreement. All the filters applied to one's senses are either amplified or removed; the consciousness expands, concepts and ideas become tangible to one's existance, and manipulable in a way a sober consciousness would define as physical interaction.Alexicus said:
This sounds to me like you're comparing narcissism to the Freudian idea of an aspect of consciousness, something I would disagree with wholeheartedly.Alexicus said:
Or an empty, barren, void. Did you know, current speculation is tending towards Dark Matter not existing, and simply that Newton got his theory of gravitational attraction wrong?Alexicus said:
I consider myself to be a God, but only over myself. This is down, however, to the fact that I think in concepts which exist only subjectively, and hence that my existance, which is a mere model in my own brain, is built out of concepts and opinions. As my consciousness exists within an arbitrary - and demonstrably flexible - model, I consider myself a God of Me, but I would not project that to outside that which I perceive.Alexicus said:
Light emitted from one star is fundamentally the same as light emitted from another, similar, star. I would not further that to say that the two stars are one and the same - they each both have identifying uniquities. They are discreet from each other.Alexicus said:
Alexicus said:
Nigh impossible with the technology of today. Surely the universe cannot continue to evolve to an omega-point of consciousness without deep space travel? Consciousness yearns to propogate to the beyond, how are other planets different from when we first set out to explore new continents?CarlSagan said:
Damn good song. You probably ought to have referenced The Beatles though, they really cornered the market on those kinds of lyrics.Alexicus said:
Another inconsistency; you've stated before that significant quantities of matter, be it dark or otherwise, are required for consciouesness. Yet now you are assigning this capability to a single sub-atomic particle? Also, the God Particle was a nonserious name, not a reference to a suspicious that this particle is fundamental to any concept of a soul.Alexicus said:
Bwah?Alexicus said:
No we can't.Alexicus said:
I'm probably reading this too deeply, but... Consciousness propogates space-time disdention?Alexicus said:
Please, give me an example of an area where we know absolutely everything there is to know.Alexicus said:
I'm sorry if this deconstruction has come off as dispassionate (it was meant to be) or blunt (it was meant to be, but in a constructive manner), and equally sorry for a few of the quips in there, my humour developed strangely. Additionally, however, this is neither fully explained nor with sufficient clarity, and also expessed as too-adamently-true for me to accept it.Alexicus said:
All credit due, it is a well-developed theory, with interesting notions, insight and the such, but as should be clear from my essaythread which you claimed to read, I am a person to approach this critically and dispassionately, especially as my own personal ponderances and musings conflict with it. If you want advice, were you to rewrite it, do more reseach on terms to realise some of which were used incorrectly, and clear up the conflictions within the theory itself.
But after all, existance, truth, the such... I still maintain it to be subjective. If this is a truth that works for you, the explains, fufills, expands, and makes sense, then it must be true to you. I've already explained I feel that right and wrong are arbitrary concepts, which you should be aware of having read my thread.
Peace out! (My fingers need a rest)
burnt said:
Also, yo Cellux! How you doin'? :d
The older I get, the less I know:
Imagine someone with a vocabulary of only a few words – let’s say two nouns and a verb. After a short while, this individual will have arranged these words into every possible meaningful and grammatically correct sentence and conclude, rightly, that he knows every sentence that can be generated with his vocabulary.
The mistake is to assume that knowing every sentence within one’s vocabulary is the same as knowing every sentence.
Expand your vocabulary, and you expand the sentence possibilities exponentially. Suddenly, you realize that you know a lot less than you thought you did.
As we learn, we learn that there are things we don’t know that we previously didn’t even know we didn’t know!
Imagine someone with a vocabulary of only a few words – let’s say two nouns and a verb. After a short while, this individual will have arranged these words into every possible meaningful and grammatically correct sentence and conclude, rightly, that he knows every sentence that can be generated with his vocabulary.
The mistake is to assume that knowing every sentence within one’s vocabulary is the same as knowing every sentence.
Expand your vocabulary, and you expand the sentence possibilities exponentially. Suddenly, you realize that you know a lot less than you thought you did.
As we learn, we learn that there are things we don’t know that we previously didn’t even know we didn’t know!
gibran2 said:
^^^^
"As the bonfires of knowledge grow brighter, the more the darkness is
revealed to our startled eyes.”
the darkness is vaster that we can suppose!