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gibran2 said:
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I second this emotion
I would encourage OP to mainly focus on endlessness' responses. He is an extremely thoughtful and caring person who takes time to think before he posts and doesn't use a post as a way to score a rudeness point for humor. Having said that I will now proceed to most likely do that. Again, endlessness' replies are the ones to watch.
Seems to me, that the OP has a hard road ahead of him. His theories are NOT clear and well stated and come off as repititious of much we have already seen. Seems to me many movies and documentaries ("Through the Wormhole" ) have been viewed also.
Time to do some real hard work. And that doesn't mean posting on an internet forum. About 12 more years of schooling might be a good start. Time to start learning some DEEP math and science, otherwise, you don't even sound as cool as Morgan Freeman, and you better believe he can barely grab onto the concepts, much less the real math and science underneath it all.
Also, time to take up a program in cult management skills. I hope you are attractive and charasimatic because your writing isn't carrying your message strongly enough. You can see that from the hostile and sarcastic replies here. Even mine is not feeling all that friendly to be honest. I feel very burned out and cynical and your posts were just more repetition of things I've seen over and over for over four decades.
Otherwise, you are just going to be a nobody, who gets flamed on internet forums. You will not be a leader of people, you will not spread your message to anyone, other than folks who judge you poorly or as not sane.
Personally, I don't believe your message was relayed in a way that is moving or inspiring. Again, much work to be done, perhaps in writing style and communication?
I don't know. But, I do know that your path, if you truly embrace it, will require a HUGE amount of effort and will likely yield little reward. Historically, most who achieved the types of goals you described got brutally tortured and killed or asassinated or wind up screwing multiple underaged wives while driving golden Mercedes.
Good Luck.
Seems to me, that the OP has a hard road ahead of him. His theories are NOT clear and well stated and come off as repititious of much we have already seen. Seems to me many movies and documentaries ("Through the Wormhole" ) have been viewed also.
Time to do some real hard work. And that doesn't mean posting on an internet forum. About 12 more years of schooling might be a good start. Time to start learning some DEEP math and science, otherwise, you don't even sound as cool as Morgan Freeman, and you better believe he can barely grab onto the concepts, much less the real math and science underneath it all.
Also, time to take up a program in cult management skills. I hope you are attractive and charasimatic because your writing isn't carrying your message strongly enough. You can see that from the hostile and sarcastic replies here. Even mine is not feeling all that friendly to be honest. I feel very burned out and cynical and your posts were just more repetition of things I've seen over and over for over four decades.
Otherwise, you are just going to be a nobody, who gets flamed on internet forums. You will not be a leader of people, you will not spread your message to anyone, other than folks who judge you poorly or as not sane.
Personally, I don't believe your message was relayed in a way that is moving or inspiring. Again, much work to be done, perhaps in writing style and communication?
I don't know. But, I do know that your path, if you truly embrace it, will require a HUGE amount of effort and will likely yield little reward. Historically, most who achieved the types of goals you described got brutally tortured and killed or asassinated or wind up screwing multiple underaged wives while driving golden Mercedes.
Good Luck.
Pandora said:
Rather unecessary Pandora.Alexicus has much to learn and I reckon this thread has given him food for thought.If youve read this thread through you would surely have noticed endlessness gently censuring those whove responded in a way that could have been perhaps a little less sarcastic or pointed.Scoring a rudeness point for humor is ,IIRC, something thats irked you before.
Pandora said:
I would like to second this notion. endlessness always manages to write posts, in which every single word resonates with me. He very skillfully, honestly, tactfully and discerningly states his case in the most eloquent fashion. I find (among many other members) his input deeply inspiring, and have learned alot from him (and alot of you other beautiful folk) over the last few years.
Alexicus, I do strongly advise you to take the time, and ponder on endlessness' post. He is giving you some very honest, worthwhile and valuable advice. This advice can not only be applied to this forum, but life in general. This of course is my opinion, you are perfectly entitled to disagree. Neither me, nor endlessness, or anyone else neither want to; or can tell you to change. What I can say is at least give it some serious thought, as the caring advice which it is.
Peace
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corpus callosum said:
Perhaps and if so I apologize. BUT, this post was not made to score that point to be sarcastic even though I knew it could come across that way. It was made as a reality wake up call.
The OP basically claims to have figured a lot of things out to be at the top of his game so to speak, at the top of a lot of games in a way. When asked what the next step was he basically replied that it was to spread the message on to others. What he is talking about is starting a religion. All established religions started as cults that made good.
Jesus was a cult leader in a time of many Gods and Goddessess. Buddha was a cult leader in the beginning. As was Mohammad.
Now, look at what happens to these personages (cult leaders) historically and today and what do you see? Generally if they do not lead the revolution, then those who are the Son of God, the Gods' Wives, those who know the Way or have the Word or are the One tend not to fare very well or tend to loose the way of their vision if they do. Best case scenario is that their vision is lost in the generations after their deaths. In ALL instances in history this is the brutal truth. Why should today or the future be different just because this one poster thinks he has some stuff figured out?
If I take him at his word and his revelations last more than one day/week/month/year, he will have a long hard road ahead of him. And it will result in the brutal and bloody death of himself and all he loves OR the corruption of his vision. I'm so very sorry, but this is the truth of what it is to be human.
I encourage him to look very closely at the road ahead. I honestly tell him his words did not move me in such a way that I felt stirred to join his revelations, his cult-to-be. I suggested others responded the way I did because the caliber of the responses here. Thus if he does not possess innate attractiveness AND heavy charisma, he'd better go back to school for a very very long time.
These are just my opinions but they are based on seeing these things come and go and knowing a tiny bit about history. I mentioned golden Mercedes as a potential modern outcome. Other things include drinking poison. We've seen it before. We WILL see it again.
I do not begrudge the visionaries and those who feel they know the WAY but their path is hard because they are stuck in humanity and reality. And history informs me that they will fail. Potentially at great personal and societal cost.
I'm okay with sarcasm corpus calllosum, just not treating people like chattel or Orwellian unpersons. I'm not trying to make an unperson here. I'm trying to make a bit of a wake up call. Not to enlightenment but to a horrible reality that we all share. And that is the reality of the human condition and how we deal with our dilemmas and fears via religion and how that inevitably and always gets perverted from a wonderful vision into pain and corruption.
Sorry but that is my perception of things.
Zip said:I suspect Alexicus is pulling yall's legs, so I wouldn't get in a tussle over it.
The Eagles, jenkem, Cracker Barrel puzzles...
figured as much, which is why I posted a pic of the most famous troll in the history of man.
he would be proud
Pandora said:
And here I thought you were chastising me specifically for my rudeness, Pandora (for about the 10,000th time)...
Skyblaze said:
Your post, Like endlessness's, was exceptional and along with the thrust of this thread and the (mostly) respectful replies,reminds me why I visit this site.
To the OP - it has been said over and over, but perhaps not so simply: your Belief System (theory as you refer to it) is utterly plagued by vast assumptions.
I enjoyed reading it nevertheless and look forward to seeing how you develop it, hopefully with, as noted elsewhere, a less preachy approach.
JBArk
I would like to apologize right off the bat and say I have not read anything you guys posted after I asked my question regarding feedback, because I realized the errors in my postings.
What I posted was a short snippet of an idea that is much, much larger. I tried to condense the idea as much as possible while retaining the key points, but I failed. Also being high every time I posted probably didn't help. Coming to this conclusion freaked me out for a bit haha.
What I am doing now is converting this idea into a hypothesis, by finding the scientific validity in my claims. The more I try to disprove this idea, the more support I find for it, which gives me hope. The hypothesis being consciousness is a force in the universe, and is probably a fundamental force.
I hope this idea turns out to be true, but I will accept the scientific facts if I'm proven wrong. If anything this will be an amazing book idea.
I'm sorry if my original posts came off as preachy, but my mind had been searching for an answer like this for awhile now. Regardless if it's true or not, this idea is causing me to live a life that I find ideal. However, this idea may not be ideal for you. You don't even have to accept it, but at least learn from some of the wisdom this idea is saying.
That being said I will repost this as a hypothesis, then again ask for your input. I have and will read everything you guys post when I get the time, and I'll try to reply to all the older posts I haven't read yet. However, I feel like the newer questions asked will be much better when the quality of the subject itself is articulated and defined clearly with little to no misconceptions. My next post will be a sober, well articulated one that hopefully everyone will understand.
Like I said before, I'm neither the wisest nor most intelligent person I know. Therefore, I think everyone here will understand it once I rewrite it in a way that even people who have not had this experience will understand. I have talked to my drug friends at first, and have now been able to explain this idea to my grandpa. Turns out he's heard some of these theories before too (like we're our own Gods.) I talked to my straightedge friend who's a genius at analytical thinking, and even he was accepting of this idea, only being able to point out minor flaws in the idea.
Prior to making this thread I did a jediflip (2 hits lsd, 5g shrooms, .2g mdma) and then 2 weeks after did a 2 tab trip. The subsequent trips completely eradicated the person of who I was before. The jediflip killed the last of my ego desires off completely, and the acid trip showed me enlightenment.
I made this post in the afterglow of that acid trip. I hope you can see how these trips influenced my writing style. I was a like a newborn baby of being a pure conscious being, so I still had some of my old egotistical ways hanging on.
Once I come back with the hypothesis I hope to be a positive, contributing member to this wonderful community!
What I posted was a short snippet of an idea that is much, much larger. I tried to condense the idea as much as possible while retaining the key points, but I failed. Also being high every time I posted probably didn't help. Coming to this conclusion freaked me out for a bit haha.
What I am doing now is converting this idea into a hypothesis, by finding the scientific validity in my claims. The more I try to disprove this idea, the more support I find for it, which gives me hope. The hypothesis being consciousness is a force in the universe, and is probably a fundamental force.
I hope this idea turns out to be true, but I will accept the scientific facts if I'm proven wrong. If anything this will be an amazing book idea.
I'm sorry if my original posts came off as preachy, but my mind had been searching for an answer like this for awhile now. Regardless if it's true or not, this idea is causing me to live a life that I find ideal. However, this idea may not be ideal for you. You don't even have to accept it, but at least learn from some of the wisdom this idea is saying.
That being said I will repost this as a hypothesis, then again ask for your input. I have and will read everything you guys post when I get the time, and I'll try to reply to all the older posts I haven't read yet. However, I feel like the newer questions asked will be much better when the quality of the subject itself is articulated and defined clearly with little to no misconceptions. My next post will be a sober, well articulated one that hopefully everyone will understand.
Like I said before, I'm neither the wisest nor most intelligent person I know. Therefore, I think everyone here will understand it once I rewrite it in a way that even people who have not had this experience will understand. I have talked to my drug friends at first, and have now been able to explain this idea to my grandpa. Turns out he's heard some of these theories before too (like we're our own Gods.) I talked to my straightedge friend who's a genius at analytical thinking, and even he was accepting of this idea, only being able to point out minor flaws in the idea.
Prior to making this thread I did a jediflip (2 hits lsd, 5g shrooms, .2g mdma) and then 2 weeks after did a 2 tab trip. The subsequent trips completely eradicated the person of who I was before. The jediflip killed the last of my ego desires off completely, and the acid trip showed me enlightenment.
I made this post in the afterglow of that acid trip. I hope you can see how these trips influenced my writing style. I was a like a newborn baby of being a pure conscious being, so I still had some of my old egotistical ways hanging on.
Once I come back with the hypothesis I hope to be a positive, contributing member to this wonderful community!
Before you go back to writting more, I seriously suggst you read the answers because they werent only aimed at being a critique for your 'theories', but also for your posting and attitude in general, which regardless of how your 'theory' (belief) changes, you'll still need to take that in consideration.
Also the fact you just said AGAIN that NOW you have killed your ego and saw enlightenment makes me think you really didnt get it.
Last but not least, speaking strictly for myself here, I spent a really long time writting an answer I thought was appropriate to you, so I hope the least you can do is to read before writting another huge post with your beliefs.
Also the fact you just said AGAIN that NOW you have killed your ego and saw enlightenment makes me think you really didnt get it.
Last but not least, speaking strictly for myself here, I spent a really long time writting an answer I thought was appropriate to you, so I hope the least you can do is to read before writting another huge post with your beliefs.
I read all your posts, and some older posts that quoted my post as well. I skipped the one's critiquing how my post's were written. I realize how I posted was wrong, and I apologized for it in my last post.
And you are misreading what I'm writing because I'm not fully explaining it. I haven't tripped since the day before Easter.
The jediflip gave me an ineffable experience. I ascended into a pure conscious being, temporarily. This ascension is what brought transcendence upon me as a being. My ego was so radically stripped away from me, that all remaining bad egotistical desires/impulses melted away.
I realize one will always be battling one's ego. I get it. However, I have conquered almost all of my ego, so much so that I try to act as a pure conscious entity would. For the most part I do a good job of it as well. I'm really one of the nicest guys you'll know.
The acid trip gave me clarity on how everything worked and gave me the ability to articulate that ineffable experience into words.
So like I said before, I'm going to explain this more thoroughly and then I'll post it. We'll have a discussion on it. Then that will be it, and I'll move on and post other topics and make other contributions to other threads.
And you are misreading what I'm writing because I'm not fully explaining it. I haven't tripped since the day before Easter.
The jediflip gave me an ineffable experience. I ascended into a pure conscious being, temporarily. This ascension is what brought transcendence upon me as a being. My ego was so radically stripped away from me, that all remaining bad egotistical desires/impulses melted away.
I realize one will always be battling one's ego. I get it. However, I have conquered almost all of my ego, so much so that I try to act as a pure conscious entity would. For the most part I do a good job of it as well. I'm really one of the nicest guys you'll know.
The acid trip gave me clarity on how everything worked and gave me the ability to articulate that ineffable experience into words.
So like I said before, I'm going to explain this more thoroughly and then I'll post it. We'll have a discussion on it. Then that will be it, and I'll move on and post other topics and make other contributions to other threads.
Are you also here to read and LEARN or just to post and TEACH ?
I ask this honestly, because you seem very eager to share your insights, you say you want to post and 'contribute', but you make no mention of actually wanting to take your time to read from the wealth of information that is around here. We ALL have something to learn here in this community, no matter how many months or years one has been here already.
I ask this honestly, because you seem very eager to share your insights, you say you want to post and 'contribute', but you make no mention of actually wanting to take your time to read from the wealth of information that is around here. We ALL have something to learn here in this community, no matter how many months or years one has been here already.
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endlessness said:
It is distressing that Alexicus hasn't seemed to get the point, at all. When he didn't reply for a few days I hoped he didn't get scared away from the site forever. Then I thought, maybe he's mulling over endlessness' post, is reconsidering things, and will return a new man. Then, now that he has replied, it's to just basically say he's going to prepare a much more thought out, revised and edited and probably much longer post rehashing his same theory, but refined and tweaked just enough to conform to the Attitude Page.
Come on, Alexicus! This is give and take, not give give give, and ignore anything that doesn't conform to how you see the world.
You said: "I read all your posts, and some older posts that quoted my post as well. I skipped the one's critiquing how my post's were written." That's some egotistical thinking there: you'll read what you agree with, read it if you see the person quoted you, but just skip over all the valuable posts that offer constructive criticism. It's the ultimate form of blindness.
Alexicus bro, I have read some of what you said and it peddles itself like you're jerking off your mind. It's boring, uninteresting and not worthwhile for my time (and I think most people will agree with that). If you keep on posting like this you'll just get the same responses and (hopefully) eventually just ignored.
Peace boss man. Love and light.
Peace boss man. Love and light.
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I hope this ends better than the last round of born-again weirdness.
Skyblaze
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As someone who's been refraining from posting much regarding your attitude, as focussing on your semi-original concepts instead (I can appreciate that being understood, and having communication regarding any formed, seemingly working, interlinked concepts which we call theories is an unrivalled intellectual joy), I simply have to reiterate what the others have said.
Earlier, you said you wished to transcend, hitting an almost divine level where you can spread teachings through peace and interaction. Ironically, however, this is not interaction, it's far too polar: one-sided. As people have said here quite endlessly, this is a two way process. These are real, conscious, knowledgeable people here obliging you with their time - quite significant amounts of it in some cases - and whilst some are hesitant to say it, others not so much, are feeling largely ignored.
We have devoted our time to you, and it's painful to observe that you appear to simply be looping in your posts and thought processes.
Read. Observe. Reply. THEN update your theories. You'll gain more from this, this way. As shall we.
Earlier, you said you wished to transcend, hitting an almost divine level where you can spread teachings through peace and interaction. Ironically, however, this is not interaction, it's far too polar: one-sided. As people have said here quite endlessly, this is a two way process. These are real, conscious, knowledgeable people here obliging you with their time - quite significant amounts of it in some cases - and whilst some are hesitant to say it, others not so much, are feeling largely ignored.
We have devoted our time to you, and it's painful to observe that you appear to simply be looping in your posts and thought processes.
Read. Observe. Reply. THEN update your theories. You'll gain more from this, this way. As shall we.
"reality, as always, will be far stranger" - Arthur C. Clarke
Personally I'm with Zip and some of the others here saying that your theory isn't exactly ground breaking. That doesn't mean it's not interesting to ponder upon, but it's far from anything that will make a new religious dogma or even be worthwhile "teaching" to others. anyway this is not what this site is about. If I were you I'd take some time and think about the things the people criticising your posts tried to transmit to you. Personally I believe communication is an important subject within the field of spirituality and consciousness (they are interlinked in one way or another IMO), and generally it pays off to exert some effort into doing it (communicating) right. And the thing about it is, it only works bi-directionally, and like with all interactions in physics, each interaction causes change to the system...
allow yourself to be changed.
to quote Radiohead: Just 'cause you feel it, doesn't mean it's there (or real)
don'T believe everything you've learned from your trips, the truth is much larger
cheers
Personally I'm with Zip and some of the others here saying that your theory isn't exactly ground breaking. That doesn't mean it's not interesting to ponder upon, but it's far from anything that will make a new religious dogma or even be worthwhile "teaching" to others. anyway this is not what this site is about. If I were you I'd take some time and think about the things the people criticising your posts tried to transmit to you. Personally I believe communication is an important subject within the field of spirituality and consciousness (they are interlinked in one way or another IMO), and generally it pays off to exert some effort into doing it (communicating) right. And the thing about it is, it only works bi-directionally, and like with all interactions in physics, each interaction causes change to the system...
allow yourself to be changed.
to quote Radiohead: Just 'cause you feel it, doesn't mean it's there (or real)
don'T believe everything you've learned from your trips, the truth is much larger
cheers