An introduction

[mfmeitbual]

Hi.

I'm not sure what to say. I'm here because I have experienced the profound effects of the spice and it seems this is an appropriate forum for discussing such experiences with others who have shared them.

I live in the US and I am part of a local group that is lobbying to accurately enforce the provisions of the US Controlled Substances Act regarding scheduling of certain substances and the criteria listed. I have never known a person addicted to substances which induce psychedelic experiences, yet I have known several addicted to substances which are legal when prescribed by a doctor. However, until we achieve our goal, these substances remain illegal and the penalties for possessing arbitrary amounts of them cause more harm than the substances themselves.

As far as "me in a nutshell", I am:
A son, grandson, brother, uncle, and friend. An adventurer, seeker, wondering wanderer. A scientist philosopher and technologist. A self-centered human attempting to resolve the conflicts between my ego, my philosophy, and the reality in which I exist.

Feel free to ask me any questions and I'll answer them. Thank you for allowing me to be a part of this community and share in the knowledge and experience.

 

[Enoon]

A warm welcome to the DMT-Nexus to you.

Have you experienced DMT many times or just once? What did you get out from the experience and what motivated you to take it?

It's great to hear people like you are out there trying to set things right in the legislation. I hope countries will begin to ease up on prohibition eventually, but I'm afraid things are going backwards in lots of places rather than forwards... The world, as always, is in turmoil and the things that could really help us grow are the thigns that are most frowned upon...

Anyway, take a good look around the forum, I'm sure you will find lots of likeminded people on here with whom you can exchange thoughts and ideas and muse about the nature of reality. Please take some time and check out our Attitude Page and the Health and Safety section to understand what we are all about.

cheers.

 

[mfmeitbual]

Thank you for the warm welcome.

Many times - at least 20. Of my many experiences, there are two extremely important things I took away. First, our psyche and experience of reality is strange and wonderful without any alteration. I suppose being in such a profoundly indescribable state of mind during the experiences is what brought this to my realization. Second (though not any less important) was an amazingly increased sense of empathy for my fellow human beings, a more thorough understanding and general sense of ease regarding my mortality, and a firm affirmation of my skeptical-always-wondering-always-questioning mindset. The truth of our existence is far stranger than any allegory or cultural behavior that attempts to explain the meaning and purpose of this amazing experience we call life. Additionally, the peace I found in these experiences has helped me deal with recent severe declines in my health and the likely possibility that I am not long for this earth. I hope I have the strength to overcome these obstacles and setbacks. My loved ones are the most important facet of my life and I would be truly lost without them.

I had researched the substance for 10 years before I ever came in to contact with it. So many people say this, but despite my attempts to seek it out, it is almost as though it found me when it was ready. I was content with my first experience and did not enter the realm again until 5 years later when I felt I had begun to understand my first journey.

My first experience with any mind-altering substance was, in George Harrison's immortal words, "the dreaded lysergic". Not a nip of alcohol, tobacco, cannabis - nothing. Hofmann's problem child was my first adventure adventure into the depths of my imagination and truthfully I was overwhelmed by the experience. I knew my older brother had experimented with various substances and my "research" (reading everything I could on Erowid - this was November 1995) lead me to believe that LSD would be a good introduction to the world of altered mind states. Looking back, I would still make the same choice - I probably would have delayed it a few years, however. When I meet children who are 13 years old (oddly I had an obsession with the number 13 since I was a child) it's hard to imagine that I was so naive and innocent when I first embarked on this journey.

I believe governments and legislation have a well-defined purpose in society - it is unfortunate when we, as a species, choose to wield these necessary constructs of civilized society in an attempt to prohibit and deride that which we do not understand. Particularly when the hypocrisy of such legislation (specifically the criteria by which these substances are evaluated) creates an environment where, as I stated, the effects of the penalties are far more damaging than the effects of the substances.

I could almost quote the Health and Safety section from memory and I attribute my positive experiences to a healthy respect for entheogens and what I would assume to be basic common sense. I do not mean to be derogatory, but I just don't understand what people are thinking when they carelessly ingest something so potent and wonder why it was so overwhelming. In a way, I am happy that they are able to experience it in that manner in hope that they give due respect to the complexity of our nervous system and how quickly our own minds can turn against us.

Thank you again for the warm welcome. I very much look forward to participating in this community and the potential for education and intellectual stimulation of myself and fellow community members.

- M

 

[halfhead]

Hello mfmeitbual! It is great to see more intelligent minds join the Nexus! I am looking forward to reading your discussions! I feel very strongly about drug education and It's current negative input to the real problems we face with the "drug war".

I had researched the substance for 10 years before I ever came in to contact with it. So many people say this, but despite my attempts to seek it out, it is almost as though it found me when it was ready.

I am currently waiting too. This is my 7th year of searching for DMT (through trees, not a dealer) and extracting myself. On and off, because I have been disheartened a few times. But this time no more... You put it nicely "It is almost as thought it found me when I was ready". I'm feeling more and more like this each year, even day lately.

When I meet children who are 13 years old (oddly I had an obsession with the number 13 since I was a child) it's hard to imagine that I was so naive and innocent when I first embarked on this journey.

I just thought I'd put in my thoughts on this "13" years old business. In the Amazon, when a new shaman is chosen, it is usually around the age of 13. The boy/girl will be suffering from some form of mental disorder (depression, schizophrenia, high anxiety etc etc), the current shaman of the tribe "initiates" them and they begin their training and life as a shaman.
Tribes have most of their initiations into "manhood" at around the age of 12-13. Hunters bring their young out at around this same age. Not all of course, but a good majority.
I think this age is of importance BECAUSE of these events. For most modern day kids, 12-13 is the "make or break" years. Could this be an "evolutionary hangup"? Could it be that we're not supposed to be sitting down in a class? perhaps the wrong class? hmm

I believe governments and legislation have a well-defined purpose in society - it is unfortunate when we, as a species, choose to wield these necessary constructs of civilized society in an attempt to prohibit and deride that which we do not understand. Particularly when the hypocrisy of such legislation (specifically the criteria by which these substances are evaluated) creates an environment where, as I stated, the effects of the penalties are far more damaging than the effects of the substances.

Without spending the next 5 years typing, I will just add what I think the key to all of the problems we face when it comes to being able to freely use our consciousness by whatever means we wish. The key is proper drug education! The way the current drug "education" system is, we are pretty much teaching curious kids(most of us?) WHICH drugs to take and without giving any real information about them. "Don't smoke this! Don't snort that! Don't shoot this!". Well you know what, school didn't make me NOT want heroin, 'Requim For A Dream' did! But only the negative side was taught in that movie.
We need to add ALL psychoactive plants and fungi to the drug education classes and start teaching kids about EVERYTHING involved with taking them! Including current street drugs. What happens to my nose if i snort cocaine everyday for 1 year? What happens to my arm if I shoot up heroin for 5 years everyday? How does it feel? Can you stop being biased and actually teach me about the positive, medical uses of cannibis? Can I sustain a life using my chosen "drug" on a daily or occasional basis? What dose WONT kill me? Why is my head humming after I take Psilocibin containing mushrooms?(ESR woo)... SOOOOOOO many important things we should be teaching our kids!
And at the same time, legalize and regulate. The last thing we need are our kids going out to more drug dealers to buy cocaine and meth... Regulation means clean supply too. So kids can get high the good old fashioned way, steal it from their parents!

I do not mean to be derogatory, but I just don't understand what people are thinking when they carelessly ingest something so potent and wonder why it was so overwhelming. In a way, I am happy that they are able to experience it in that manner in hope that they give due respect to the complexity of our nervous system and how quickly our own minds can turn against us.

^^ see above As I said, I can go on for years!


Anyway, I'll stop here for now Thanks for the good read! I look forward to hearing more form you Welcome to the Nexus!

-hH