apprehensive and nervous

[ancientwarrior333]

dear nexians,

i am apprehensive and nervous about partaking, but i read somewhere, more than once, that when i am ready, IT will find ME...so maybe i am ready?

i have been meditating daily but to no avail, i feel weighted down by something, and i don't know what it is...maybe guilt, anxiety, and fear...

...but i need REAL answers and solutions and REAL results, fast...i feel like time is running out on this plane for me, and i don't know if i will reach where i would like to go, or at least where i'm supposed to go, you know, the whole "humans have a high destiny" type of feeling

but i feel like i need help. I wish the ancestors and spirit guides would help me to "blast off into the higher realms" for multi-dimensional healing and growth to take place.

i am so excited, and nervous and scared, at the same time! Is there any way to really prepare for this? Other than perhaps pre-flight meditation? anything in particular that i should read, or listen to?

thanks!

 

[humble bumble]

Hi (again) Ancientwarrior

I smoked some dmt yesterday, after a very long time of not using it, and I felt the same apprehension that you, and I guess most people, do. When I first started smoking dmt, overcoming that apprehension (call it a holy fear) and surrendering to the experience was maybe the most valuable lesson of the whole affair.

It's perfectly reasonable and acceptabe to be excited, and nervous and scared about an undertaking like this. But you must overcome that, and you sound so eager that I'm sure you will. Some people like to plunge in, some people like to take it slow. In the latter case I'd recommend you look into making changa. Read around a lot here and ask questions, that will give you inspiration for your journeys.

For me, it sometimes helps if I have something to cling on to. In one case it was a book I was reading, another time a crystal ball. Something that's dear to you. Again, it may not be your style. Some people develop a personal ritual, you could look into opening and closing magic circles and banishing rituals. Or a little personal prayer.
Saying 'thank you' afterwards often comes natural

Most of all, I think it's important to be a little relaxed about it. It's a great work on the one hand and we must be focused and strong, but on the other hand, there is the need to surrender to the experience, and for this we must be relaxed. One time I was smoking and I was holding my breath for as long as I could, counting manically in my head, until the dmt told me to #&&*&# relax a little and let go ...

You sound like you want answers fast and I hope you'll find what you're looking for, wether through dmt, or by any other means. Again, godspeed!

 

[obliguhl]

that when i am ready, IT will find ME

"It" has already found you. But you may not have found "it" yet.

so maybe i am ready?

Maybe. Maybe not. The real question is: What do you want to do about it ?

.but i need REAL answers and solutions and REAL results, fast

So you're hoping DMT is some sort of fortune teller?

for multi-dimensional healing and growth to take place.

If you don't know what that means, how do you know you actually want it ?

i am so excited, and nervous and scared,

That is normal and should it ever go away, you are probably in a world of trouble if you continue.

anything in particular that i should read, or listen to?

Yes, your heart.

 

[ancientwarrior333]

my heart ALREADY TOLD ME not to ever take drugs or liquor but i didn't listen...that's why I'm in this most fucked up situation that i'm in. I don't have a heart anymore because of not listening to myself, and i hear spirits all the time

 

[concombres]

my heart ALREADY TOLD ME not to ever take drugs or liquor but i didn't listen...that's why I'm in this most fucked up situation that i'm in. I don't have a heart anymore because of not listening to myself, and i hear spirits all the time

Take your time, start low, & don't get hung up on breaking through.

It helps alot to clean up the room or area your vaping in & get it nice & comfortable. Do whatever you can to put together an enviornment that makes you feel comfortable & at home.
Take the day to relax & to let go of tensions & find a good mental state.

Then once your mind is calmed & clear, go for a low dose. Start with maybe 15mg vaped in a good pipe. It may take time to get your smoking method down.

Working slowly allows you to get comfortable at each dosage level before moving up. Even a 5mg rise in dose can produce dramatic increase in effects.

In your attempt to slowly work your way up, you will eventually break through once dosage has hit a certain level.

 

[RhythmSpring]

I'll echo others here saying that it's really important to be *relaxed* about the whole thing. Good luck!!!

 

[ancientwarrior333]

Take your time, start low, & don't get hung up on breaking through.

It helps alot to clean up the room or area your vaping in & get it nice & comfortable. Do whatever you can to put together an enviornment that makes you feel comfortable & at home.
Take the day to relax & to let go of tensions & find a good mental state.

Then once your mind is calmed & clear, go for a low dose. Start with maybe 15mg vaped in a good pipe. It may take time to get your smoking method down.

Working slowly allows you to get comfortable at each dosage level before moving up. Even a 5mg rise in dose can produce dramatic increase in effects.

In your attempt to slowly work your way up, you will eventually break through once dosage has hit a certain level.

hi concombres,
i will be working exclusively with changa for now, it is a 50% blend, do you have any advice as to how i should use this? i have a 12 inch waterbong with a small bowl piece, which only holds up to, i would estimate, about 1/4 of a gram. Should i pack this amount and try and smoke the whole thing in 1-2 hits? I really want to feel healing from the ancestor spirits contained within the medicine...

 

[obliguhl]

i will be working exclusively with changa for now, it is a 50% blend,

Well, it seems you have made up your mind. I would have recommended to treat your alcohol problem first, but i understand that conventional therapy might not be an option for various reasons. I won't tell you not to do it, but you should be aware, that going in really tense and with symptoms biomedicine would call "schizophrenic" might be problematic. I believe this warning is necessary.

That being said, it might very well be that you're going to have contact with what you call ancestor spirits. Perhaps it might be a good idea to try and contact them before smoking dmt. I see you are already meditating. Has that state ever allowed you to contact them, or are the spirits talking to you more of the "evil" kind ?

If you are completly set on smoking dmt, i can only urge you to start with the smallest possible dose and use that as a meditation aid first. See how you react and what messages are being transmitted. Even if it seems ridiciolous, start with 10mg of your 50% changa and very slowly increase your dose. It would also be wise to have someone you trust in the other room.

Please don't rush things! You appear to be in "panic" mode and that is NEVER the place from which growth happens, and it is never a good state to be in when it comes to taking choices.

 

[Ufostrahlen]

my heart ALREADY TOLD ME not to ever take drugs or liquor but i didn't listen...that's why I'm in this most fucked up situation that i'm in. I don't have a heart anymore because of not listening to myself, and i hear spirits all the time

So your current strategy is fighting fire with fire... interesting. My guess is that in this situation DMT will show you death in order to fix you. You're not afraid of DMT but the things that it will show you. Another guess: all it needs to do is holding up a mirror in your face. Only a guess tho.

i have been meditating daily but to no avail

For how long? Meditation is a long term investment. Meditating for weeks or months isn't fixing anything.

Well, it seems you have made up your mind. I would have recommended to treat your alcohol problem first, but i understand that conventional therapy might not be an option for various reasons. I won't tell you not to do it, but you should be aware, that going in really tense and with symptoms biomedicine would call "schizophrenic" might be problematic. I believe this warning is necessary.

:thumb_up:

Maybe you really need a punch in the face, but in case there's still hope and you prefer a more mellow route, try Oblis recommendation. Alc problems can be treated with Baclofen and it may buy you some time to get your mind in order for a DMT trip. This year, next year, 10 years, it will still be around. I wouldn't rush into psychedelics as a quick fix for trouble, it might be that hell awaits you.

If you are completly set on smoking dmt, i can only urge you to start with the smallest possible dose and use that as a meditation aid first. See how you react and what messages are being transmitted. Even if it seems ridiciolous, start with 10mg of your 50% changa and very slowly increase your dose. It would also be wise to have someone you trust in the other room.

+1

 

[3rdI]

my heart ALREADY TOLD ME not to ever take drugs or liquor but i didn't listen...that's why I'm in this most fucked up situation that i'm in. I don't have a heart anymore because of not listening to myself, and i hear spirits all the time

so do yourself a favour and stop taking drugs.

really, stop.

IMO pursuing the answers to lifes problems at the bottom of a glass vial is not a very good idea.

 

[ancientwarrior333]

thanks everyone, i really appreciate your feedback; but i don't think some of the posters here really understand what i'm trying to say.

i DON'T take drugs, other than a little bit of caffeine (tea) and nicotine (cigarettes).

i haven't taken substances in years.

i DON'T HAVE an alcohol problem. i USED to drink alcohol several years ago a lot, but not anymore.

I WAS TOLD by a trustworthy and reliable source that DMT would accelerate my spiritual growth/evolution.

i've always been fascinated by spirit molecule and need reliable information on DMT, not constructive criticism of my former substance abuse issues.

thanks anyway

 

[3rdI]

well if you want info then its all here already, just sart reading:thumb_up: .

this forum is very concerned with harm reduction and if you post a topic in which you sound less than grounded then you are going to get these types of replies.

We like to try and keep people safe.

 

[○]

thanks everyone, i really appreciate your feedback; but i don't think some of the posters here really understand what i'm trying to say.

i DON'T take drugs, other than a little bit of caffeine (tea) and nicotine (cigarettes).

i haven't taken substances in years.

i DON'T HAVE an alcohol problem. i USED to drink alcohol several years ago a lot, but not anymore.

I WAS TOLD by a trustworthy and reliable source that DMT would accelerate my spiritual growth/evolution.

i've always been fascinated by spirit molecule and need reliable information on DMT, not constructive criticism of my former substance abuse issues.

thanks anyway

You say that you don't take drugs; except for caffeine and nicotine are most definitely drugs, hehe.



You were told that DMT would accelerate spiritual growth/evolution by a reliable source? How can that person speak on your behalf? I wouldn't be so quick to draw conclusions on how it will unfold. Tbh, you won't know how it'll go until you've went through the experience, or went through several experiences; anything can happen, not necessarily spiritual growth/evolution.

Constructive criticism is a great thing though in alot of ways, helps you learn/evolve as an individual. Please don't take things that are said to you by members here 'personally', as these things are meant to help, not hinder.

You've definitely came to the right place for information. Just read, read, read, become familiar with the terminology, methods, etc; then when you have all your eggs in one basket, start the process.

best of travels

 

[ancientwarrior333]

We like to try and keep people safe.

:surprised

on a forum that promotes blatant use of powerful substances? are you serious?

smoked salvia can literally annihilate one's body and mind and destroy their sense of love and peace forever, making permanent changes in their entire bio-makeup, and that's just the beginning of the horror.

being stuck in a parallel universe forever as a result of consumption of unknown powerful chemicals that a certain website promotes using is not my idea of a fun time.

i thought this was the dmt nexus, so why all the talk about salvia, lsd, bufotenine, mj, lsa, etc...

 

[ancientwarrior333]

thank you Tat Vam Asi, that was very good advice.

i really want to do this, i want to break free of the hell that i am in, i just want to reach a place of love and happiness inside of myself, love happiness and higher awareness, you know, just feel connected to Spirit once again like i used to feel.
i don't want to be the living dead!

 

[3rdI]

:surprised

on a forum that promotes blatant use of powerful substances? are you serious?

yes, im 100% serious.

there are ways in which to interact with substances that are considerably safer than others, we promote using substances in the safest way possible. Research, testing substances, low dose build up, safe set and setting, sitters ect are all part of what we try to promote here.

this is the DMT Nexus but it is more than just a place with onfo on DMT, it is a comunity of psychnaughts who have a wider spread of interest than just DMT.

for a better idea of what the forum is about its a good idea to reading through the FaQ and Attitude sections.

smoked salvia can literally annihilate one's body and mind and destroy their sense of love and peace forever, making permanent changes in their entire bio-makeup, and that's just the beginning of the horror.

you should keep this in mind while trying to solve your problems with DMT, its far from all love and light

 

[Ufostrahlen]

i really want to do this, i want to break free of the hell that i am in, i just want to reach a place of love and happiness inside of myself, love happiness and higher awareness, you know, just feel connected to Spirit once again like i used to feel.
i don't want to be the living dead!

Alright then, sounds like a reasonable cause. I think if you stick with the advice below, you might benefit from getting a different point of view.

If you are completly set on smoking dmt, i can only urge you to start with the smallest possible dose and use that as a meditation aid first. See how you react and what messages are being transmitted. Even if it seems ridiciolous, start with 10mg of your 50% changa and very slowly increase your dose. It would also be wise to have someone you trust in the other room.

 

[○]

thank you Tat Vam Asi, that was very good advice.

i really want to do this, i want to break free of the hell that i am in, i just want to reach a place of love and happiness inside of myself, love happiness and higher awareness, you know, just feel connected to Spirit once again like i used to feel.
i don't want to be the living dead!

onward!

 

[xa]

also for me, i feel nervous and have fear to do it, but something in me want to explore.
I started many many years ago to find psychedelics, mushroom was the first thing, i get info and go on the field in my are, and find them by myself or them find me, now i can see a psilocybe semilanceolata at 2 mt distance and some other substance allmost made by myself...

But dmt was the thing that i never try and i allways dream about it, but i'm getting old and this thing slowly get less interess...but i decide to return in the exploration, first for my cluster headache and then to solve my dream about psychedelics.....and get the extraction...and now try to use it and read info everyday....slowly i became afraid and more nervous than before...but the voice in me say to go up....so i started try the extract from nothing to 5 mg for now...and learn how to do and feel what i give me...slowly i can go up maybe i need years to to, it's ok, when is time i can do !! never be in hurry for theese thing, go slowly, i learn this with Tai Chi, leanr it slowly and more slowly and again more slowly and if you thing to arrive somewhere restart from the beginning slowly....there's no end.

Sorry for my english.

 

[DansMaTete]

smoked salvia can literally annihilate one's body and mind and destroy their sense of love and peace forever, making permanent changes in their entire bio-makeup, and that's just the beginning of the horror.

You can substitute the word DMT for salvia in this sentence.

Nothing is 100% good or bad or safe.
It seems to me you put a lot of hope in our beloved molecule. Best way to be desappointed imho (expectation and stuff, you know )