Brekdown, feeling great afterwards

[Mitchi]

Okay

So 3-4 days after I took some MDMA, I took 2 grams Phenibut, and some hours later had an emotional breakdown. Which i had not tried before. Anyway, i started crying for the first time in 15 years or something, and it really just took over. I must have cried for like 2 hours or something.
Before I fell asleep I felt a great sense of empathy and peace. Now, the thing is that this feeling continued and expanded for 1 month. In the end I almost begun fearing my mental health, because I was like, drifting away into some unknown territory. I also felt like I was walking slightly over the ground. All hate, fear etc. was just replaced with empathy.
After 1 month it all disappeared in an instant an was replaced with anger. I dealt with the anger with some 4-HO-met. But the before-feeling never returned

Is that normal? Or have anyone tried something like it. Just trying to make sense of it, and didn't know where else to turn

 

[Ancient Realms]

what on earth is Phenibut and 4-Ho-met? I am only experienced with natural entheogens so i can't help you there. 4-ho sounds like one of those rc's, iv never messed with them.

 

[Mitchi]

Hi

Well I don't really think the drugs in question has much relevance. Maybe the MDMA but I think it's beside the point... Maybe I shouldn't have mentioned the odd-named drugs :?

 

[HappyHippie]

I have no clue about Phenibut or 4-Ho-met, but I have a fair amount of experience with MDMA and other 'uppers' - after an irresponsible 'binge' on similar substances (I've learnt my lesson there) I woke up during the night; I had been dreaming of a man singing. His voice was operatic and felt as though it really penetrated my soul. I awoke to find myself crying, and I cried for a good while (for the first time in a long time). I fell asleep again shortly after and woke up feeling very positive and refreshed, sort of cleansed...

I would put my experience down to foolish abuse of stimulant drugs, which messed my enorphine levels up and left me feeling very low (even though I wasn't conciously very aware of this) - the crying I would say was my body's attempt to flush these feelings out and cleanse me - you always feel better after a good cry. Maybe yours was something similar?

However good I may have felt after this, I learnt my lesson with drugs like these, abuse can cause serious mental health problems such as anxiety and depression - and they're not great for you physically either. I'd say give your body a break, don't try and fix problems stemming from drugs with more drugs. Focus on relaxation, maybe meditation? Eat some good food too (fresh fruit and veg). It's a natural high you can't beat!

Sorry to ramble dude, just thought I'd share, it's better to avoid going down that road.

Good luck, and peace

 

[edge2054]

I had very similar feelings after the first time I took MDMA. Granted I had spent a considerable amount of time before that depressed but my first roll opened me up to this whole other way to live life and for a period of time after word I was on cloud nine even without drugs.

But eventually my emotions returned to base line and I was left confused.

I'm not sure what advice to give. It's cliche but maybe try not to over think it.

If you're angry a lot and you feel it's without reason it could be a sign of anxiety. In which case my best advice for anxiety is again going to sound cliche, try to let go. I'm also a big advocate of therapy and feel that everyone can benefit from it assuming they have the time and money and of course assuming they find a good therapist. Talking about things that are bothering you with an impartial party can give you new perspectives on your behavior and thought patterns. They may also be able to suggest a few day to day things or even moment to moment things that will help you.

I'd personally avoid therapists that are quick to judge your drug experimentation or who likewise are quick to suggest psychoactive drugs. Assuming you're not suicidalal, SSRIs are only shown to be mildly more effective then placebo, which just goes to show the power of the mind in my opinion.

Anyway I wish you luck. It's not fun to walk around angry all the time and I can definitely relate to your experiences, for what it's worth.

 

[Mitchi]

HappyHippie: I dont't take MDMA that often. It's only on rare ocations. So I don't think it was due only to that.
I've actually just begun meditating, so now I just need the fresh fruit

you always feel better after a good cry. Maybe yours was something similar?

Could be, yeah

I had very similar feelings after the first time I took MDMA. Granted I had spent a considerable amount of time before that depressed but my first roll opened me up to this whole other way to live life and for a period of time after word I was on cloud nine even without drugs.

Yeah me too. The odd thing here is, that it wasn't just an afterglow. Because the feeling accelerated or expanded. But yeah, I might not over think it too much.

I do have anxiety, so that has probably something to do with the anger. I'm not, that, angry anymore however. The 4-Ho-MET took care of that it really is terrible being angry all the time. Using all the energy in that direction