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Bufotenine Extraction

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So am i right in assuming freebase bufotenine is not soluble in water? Thus the basified paste method? Is this why Calcium hydroxide is use as a base? If freebase bufotenine is water soluble then we could precede as a regular liquid liquid extraction?
 
Freebase bufontenine is quite water soluble, but not as soluble as bufo fumarate/citrate, hence why the paste method works.

You'd have to use a hella strong solvent like DCM or chloroform if performing a liquid extraction and defat into infinity. I've tried some liquid extractions on cebil and they didn't go too well.
 
Hi all :)

I wonder about how much yield of 5-ho-dmt you get from 100g of vilca seeds using this tek?

And what is a standard dose? wikipedia says its active from 2mg+, but this doesnt say much to me.

odd enough, I cant find this info anywhere.

thank you very much!

PS: Ive just seen this is quite a bump! is there a more up to date topic on bufo extraction?

EDIT: checked the nexus WIki just now! says 50g will produce around 1g bufo, so its 2% yield.

NOTHING ABOUT DOSAGES, THOUGH !

2edit: found the dosage info here: it's a brief and clarifying comparison of DMT, 5-MEO-DMT and 5-HO-DMT by 69ron. THUMBS UP. 8)

 
Pardon me gentlemen, I don't mean to interrupt the discussion, but I am looking for a good source of these seeds
Any help would be appreciated
 
reflexion said:
Pardon me gentlemen, I don't mean to interrupt the discussion, but I am looking for a good source of these seeds
Any help would be appreciated
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I just want to add this post here for others to see becasue I basically promoted the tryptamine so much in the past and so I feel responsible let people know my take on it at this time..I have taken this tryptamine more than probly most people out there in the psych world and so I feel like I know it well.

I dont think bufotenine is necessarily a healthy tryptamine to be ingesting. I dont know if I will ever take the stuff again. I took it a lot in the past but my personal feeling at this point is that with the availability of DMT and psilocin/cybin I just have no desire to this chemical again. It is very visionary, but it also feels horribly toxic and the level of constriction present makes me sort or wonder about people with heart problems or already have high blood pressure issues..

Please people just be careful with this alkaloid. It's a really painful experience for me at this point to eve ingest the stuff and last time I did I concluded that it really feels like a toxin to me. Im not saying dont take it..becasue I experimented with it very heavily at one point in very large doses..Im just saying be cautious..this stuff is not DMT.
 
i must admit my experience with bufo has been totally different to jamies
when its clean and freshly reduced there is no toxic feelings what so ever
rough approaches will not provide the desired effect - but if one cleans it up well its a lovely experience from start to finish
the oxide is nasty as hell and causes nausea
imo ppl are not reducing or cleaning bufo enough - the xtals should be clear or white and of good geometry - no color, ethyl acetate is about the best way to achieve it easily

i rate it up there with the best of em - mesc, bufo, spice, and mushies
 
Hi there!

Our great Member 69ron also had an Account at the shroomery and there he stated this line:

Bufotenine is soluble in both acidic water and alkaline water (see the Merck Index). That is why it can be extracted from DCM using pH 10 water. It’s very soluble in it. DMT, 5-MeO-DMT and the majority of the other compounds that are supposed to be present will stay in the DCM after the pH 10 water washes.
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Well this sounds extremely nice, meaning that you could purify the Bufotenin out of your water phase (there are some steps that involve using water as the liquid of that step, so I guess you could do exactly this at 1 or more steps).

Now no other TEK mentions this and I also did not see him here talk about this, so this already is a strange sign.

But the worst sign is:

Doesnt everywhere get stated that at pH 10 Bufotenin is INSOLUBLE in water?

For example here at the *no smell* TEK at step 8. Bufotenin crash out after you dissolved the fumarate in water and basify it, forming a *caramel clump*.

Add enough water (about 50 ml) to dissolve the bufotenine fumarate then add about a gram of sodium carbonate powder directly to this solution. Like magic a caramel coloured lump of freebase bufotenine will form.
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I mean - yes - it is already far more polar than Spice. But how can this well accepted and repeated TEK tell it is insoluble?

And even IF it would be soluble, I guess that between a mixture or DCM and pH 10 water most should stay in the DCM by far. I mean this sounds as if you would throw water on it and 90 % get into the water and 10 % stay in the DCM. But IMO Bufotenin looks far more to be soluble in DCM.

I know it's all about to be tested, but I do not have enough seeds to try it ...

Maybe someone else has an opinion on this?
 
jamie said:
I just want to add this post here for others to see becasue I basically promoted the tryptamine so much in the past and so I feel responsible let people know my take on it at this time..I have taken this tryptamine more than probly most people out there in the psych world and so I feel like I know it well.

I dont think bufotenine is necessarily a healthy tryptamine to be ingesting. I dont know if I will ever take the stuff again. I took it a lot in the past but my personal feeling at this point is that with the availability of DMT and psilocin/cybin I just have no desire to this chemical again. It is very visionary, but it also feels horribly toxic and the level of constriction present makes me sort or wonder about people with heart problems or already have high blood pressure issues..

Please people just be careful with this alkaloid. It's a really painful experience for me at this point to eve ingest the stuff and last time I did I concluded that it really feels like a toxin to me. Im not saying dont take it..becasue I experimented with it very heavily at one point in very large doses..Im just saying be cautious..this stuff is not DMT.
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For me, it has most value as a little something extra, on top of a mushroom, ayahuasca or LSD trip. You don't realy need that much of it then.
I use very small amounts of yopo as a booster for visuals. Very effective, with very little side-effects.
 
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