Cannabinoid Hypermesis? (CHS)

[MobsterSpock]

Although this is primarily a site to educate about DMT, it seems to be full of very educated people.
And everyone on this site treats everyone with respect which is unlike any other site I've ever been on.

Okay so I was diagnosed with cyclic vomiting syndrome (CVS). After a while of being sick 2 1/2 years of constant sickenss.
My sickness was as follows, every three weeks for one week i'd get violently ill, intense vomiting, nausea, for five days usually, til I was able to eat again, I would stay up for four days or so vomiting the entire time.

Okay ive been smoking since I was 15, I got sick when I was 18, stopped smoking at 20. Heavy use, everyday, all day, but snaps so maybe a gram a day. ( If that's heavy?)

SO beforte I got sick, I did shrooms, and lsd without any problem.
I then went to San Fransico where I got bad food poisoning, the same five day symptoms really, it seemed like ever since then I would get that sickness.
I did lsd and got sick while on it. Could it be the acid did something to me? I don't thin so but I figured id mention it.

I was also diagnosed with H. Pylori which I got from san fran I think. Which I got treated. But I had already abstained for three months before the treatment and now I have no symptoms, it took a few months after the marijuana abstaining til I was better, I had morning sickness where it took me an hour or two to throw up and gain an appetite (After abstaining)
oh I also had an esphigal yeast infection. Treated.

So I have abstained for four months, began smoking and got sick after three weeks of smoking everyday.

So Ive abstained for a year now, when I smoke now I do it in moderation with no ill effects, I smoke once a week usually less. And im fine, but usally only for a month at a time.

Now my diet was afwul, I was "Healthy" on the outside. I wasn't fat, I was athletic,

SO do you think if I eat really well, veggies, fruit, exercise. That i'd be able to smoke again?

Whats your opinion on CHS.

And for the record I am not putting marijuana or any substance down, I love Marijauana, it just affects me negatively now. And is extremely rare for it to happen to anyone.


I apologize for my lack of flowing the topics, it all mixed in there, and my spelling is terrible.
Oh I also drink everyday now. And im fine, this is why I want to smoke again though, its much safer, much healthier.
I take about 10 to 15 shots of whiskey a day for about a year now.

Why does that not affect me (like chs, I know its horrible for me).

Any answers would be great and I could tell you more about it, which would be easier then this mess of sentences and topics here. Sorry.
And thank you.

 

[Rolande]

Have you at all considered the possibility that you may be hypersensitive to the destructive toxins created in the combustion of your bud?

If you have the money, invest in a vaporizer. If not, dose only with edibles. Do either for a month or two - twice the time it would normally take for you to feel ill again - and see if the THC is the problem or the carcinogenic product of combustion.

 

[MobsterSpock]

That's true. I'll have to keep that in mind.
I have a vaporizer.
So also I smoked for five years. And was only affected at the end.
Do you think it could be chemicals its grown with. Like ph up or ph down, or the hydroponic systems.
Pesticides, or herbicides.
I'm changing my diet to organic, with plenty of exercise.
I also found marijuana grown in very organic conditions. Only in "super soil" made from molasses and bat guano. And they said the only other thing ran through it is reverse osmosis water.
I'm going to to test it, with a new diet. After my juice fast.
What's your or someone elses opinion or view about this.
And thanks for your reply.

 

[wage.]

I'm not an expert on this at all, but I think most cases of Cannabinod Hypermesis Syndrome have been in "Heavy" smokers (28g+) a week and have smoked large amounts of Cannabis daily for years/decades.

Apparently those suffering CHS find temporary relief by taking hot showers/baths.

If you're worried about the chemicals you're inhaling by smoking "unflushed" Cannabis, you could always try water curing your weed. Water curing can be unappealing to some smokers though, you'll lose any taste/color from the Cannabis and the weight will be reduced by around 10-20%. You won't lose any of the precious Cannabinoids, but I'm fairly certain most of the flavonoids will be removed.

Cannabinoid Hyperemesis Syndrome - NCPIC

 

[MobsterSpock]

Well I was actually diagnosed with cyclic vomiting syndrome, maybe marijuana happened to turn into the trigger.
However the symptoms of cannabinoid hypermesis match perfectly.
I smoke heavy in the sense I smoked every thirty mins to an hour, just small amounts. I don't know if that's considered heavy or not.
I would be violently vomiting for five days and I would take hot baths to relelive it, I would take up to six hour long baths a day.

Do you think a healthy diet and that "organic" marijuana would help?
If it is cyclic vomiting does it go away?
Could the vomiting be from h. Pylori?
Thanks for the replys!

 

[cvssufferer]

Hiya mate,

Sorry to be blunt at first lol but in the nicest way possible Cyclic Vomiting and Cannabis Hyperemesis arent the same thing and cannabis does't cause CVS..........can it be a trigger? Maybe, in the same way alcohol, common colds and tiredness can be aswell! However CVS itself is an officially recognised condition (in italy anyway...soon to be other contries).

Just a friendly nudge to wage.........hot baths and showers certainly do not indicate Cannabis Hyperemesis. Many adults and children who have never touched cannabis get relief by hot baths and it has been scientifically proven as to why it works and it isnt anything to do with cannabis use. This misconception is causing problems for CVS sufferers being labelled so I think its important to set the record straight when it crops up

Back to Mobster pal. Do you mind answering a few questions, I am really interested to hear more from you. You say you have been diagnosed with Cyclic Vomiting, by who mate? Just interested really because CVS specialists are few and far between. The first treatment a CVS specialist demands is abstaining from taking recreational drugs or drinking alcohol. Did your consultant ask you to do this? and what do they think to the relapse since smoking again?

The doctors are not sure why CVS occurs but as far as I am aware, the CVSA doctors are quite confident that cannabis isnt an actual cause. Here is a statement from Dr Venkatesan, a CVS specialist on the matter -

“Recently, there has been considerable controversy over the role of cannabis in these patients. While “cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome” has been touted as a new diagnosis, there does not appear to be sufficient data to implicate marijuana as a “cause” of CVS. In a recent review of 31 published cases, the average duration of marijuana use preceding onset of vomiting was just over 10 years; the long delay in presentation of symptoms following chronic marijuana use argues against cannabis being a cause for the vomiting. Also, long-term follow-up is lacking in case series of patients with “cannabinoid hyperemesis.” The acute administration of marijuana has been shown in animal studies to stop vomiting and cannabinoid agents such as dronabinol and nabilone have been used to treat nausea and vomiting due to chemotherapy. The effects of chronic marijuana use are poorly understood and whether marijuana use unmasks CVS is unclear; further prospective studies are warranted to address this issue. We currently recommend abstinence of marijuana while treating patients with CVS as this is a risk factor for nonresponse to conventional medications.”

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Like I said, CVS specialists will ask you to abstain from cannabis and other drugs straight away. Not because they think it causes CVS but more because one of the most effective treatments for CVS is amitriptyline. Cannabis "may" interfere with this anti drepessant so doctors just recommend abstaining to give the amitriptyline the best chance of working..........so I am told from the very top anyway!

Have you tried any of the meds on the empiric guidelines published by the CVSA? Do you happen to live in the US? There is currently a study being ran on the endocannabinoid system which may well shed more light on things but they need volunteers (wisconsin)....I know the chances of you living there are small but you never know lol

Anyway, would be really interested in discussing this more with you mate. Ive responded really well following meds in the empiric guidelines and havent vomited for 6 months now! My cannabis use has varied over the years and the fact that I have not vomited in over 6 months (after 15 years of it) and I am still smoking cannabis shows to me anyway that cannabis did not trigger my CVS. If you have tried amitriptyline etc please ignore me obv.....I am guessing you have tbh but thought it was worth mentioning.

For many cannabis smokers who suffer from CVS there is absolutely no connection. Many people have abstained to prove to their doctors, partners, friends, employers that it isnt a cause. Many people eat less healthy whilst smoking cannabis, I know I do. If I eat late it can be a real trigger for a bad stomach........sorry, used to be a real trigger. These days following the empiric treatment guidelines I feel a different person. Like I say, I guess you havent responded to any of these

E2A - I read it back and it sounds abit off.........I am a friendly person honest, it just maybe doesnt come across. I am genuinely here to chat, not debunk or anything

 

[Mitakuye Oyasin]

Another experiment you might want to try is to infuse your cannabis into oil or butter and try eating it for a while and cutting out the lungs all together for a month or two to see if that has any effect on your nausea / vomiting. For me I used to really like eating cannabis. It is more intense and lasts longer. But some years ago after I had not eaten any for a long time I tried it again and had an unpleasant experience. Too intense and lots of nausea. Had to take a long shower and that only helped a little, not completely. You just have to ride out those experiences. I noticed that every other time, and most recently every time I ate cannabis it would be the same similar uncomfortable experience. I was bummed as this had been really pleasant in the past, but no longer was. It was organic grown cannabis, so no worries about chems or additives and the food I was infusing it into was pure as well. My guess is that something changed in my body with how I am able to break down and assimilate the cannabis orally. Smoking and vaping does not have the same effect at all for me, these are still pleasant and productive experiences with no nausea, only eating it is problematic for me. It could be the at the opposite is true for you. The easiest method I have heard to infuse cannabis into oil is to pick up some coconut oil and use a crock pot or slow cooker to infuse the cannabis into the oil. Let it cool a bit and strain through a filter to get out as much plant matter as possible. Start with small doses and wait 45-60 minutes to see how it hits you before you up dose with more. I'd be curious if this has any different effect than your experiences with smoking cannabis. Please keep us posted with any experiments you do with vaping or eating and if anything changes or improves. Good luck to you. Sounds like a horrible and trying experience.

 

[MobsterSpock]

i'd be more than happy to answer any questions.
I was diagnosed by two GI specialists, no where close to experts that know cvs.
They had me stop marijauana yes.
I was put on promethazine to control my episodes, and eventually they found h. pylori which I got treated with lots of chlorthomiazin ( butchered that spelling) and amoxacilin (also spelt horribly)
I live in California.

So I have started smoking here and there and its fine, no episodes at all.
Could it be the tar?
It seems to occur after it builds in my system I guess, which I contirubted to maybe other chemicals used while growing it.
How did I start getting sick after 5 years of smoking?
Was it a coincidence?

Sorry again if I didn't answer the questions you asked, if you could put them in question for like
What was your diet
What were the symptoms

I could answer them easier, I forget when I start typing.

And thanks for backing up everything with studies and quotes, and I didn't interpret any of that as blunt, or rude or anything. It was very much appreciated.
And likewise if I come off rude or anything it was not intentional,
Thanks again.

And I just realized I can see all the posts under the reply box, oh well to lazy to turn back now, haha.

 

[wage.]

Most of the information regarding CHS seems to imply that symptoms resolved after abstinence from Cannabis.

I guess the only way you can know for sure if Cannabis is causing the vomiting and nausea is to quit/take a long tolerance break. 50+ days should be long enough, although it isn't always easy for a daily smoker to quit.

 

[MobsterSpock]

I have stopped smoking for a year now.
And i have been symptom free.
I just dont know if its, marijuana, thc, or perhaps some chemicals used to grow it or to keep down insects and such.
Or if it has anything to do with that. Which im hoping it doesnt.

 

[cvssufferer]

Hiya mate,

Thanks for answering my questions, or some of them ha I do waffle so you can be excused for forgetting what questions I asked lol I dont like to come across as offensive or rude so like I say, tend to waffle and normally miss the point lol

I will try and keep it easy for us both now....some questions might seem odd but it is only me trying to build a picture of things...I am in no way a doctor btw lol I am merely interested in the cannabis hyperemesis claims and just how they are being linked to CVS, so people like yourself willing to answer questions are virtually nil so I really appreciate it mate.

1 - 2 GI's diagnosed you with CVS, did they ever look at or consider the empiric treatment guidelines as drawn out by Dr Fleisher?

2 - I see you are taking a few medications for your CVS. I dont know much about the ones you mentioned as they are not mentioned in the empiric treatment guidelines. Do you think they have helped limit your episodes or would you more relate it to lack of cannabis use? Are you still taking the any regular meds now?

3 - You are smoking again, in small amounts not regularly and with no ill effects. How much roughly?

4 - How would your CVS attacks start? At a certain time? In a certain way? Were there any particular triggers that would start an attack?

I have a few more questions lol but I will leave it at that for now. I find it really interesting how you have stopped smoking for a year with no CVS attacks at all. Like Dr Venkatesan said, maybe cannabis unmasks CVS in some people? Clearly from what you have said your CVS attacks have stopped since you abstained. I know it sounds crazy but now maybe you need to smoke quite abit and put it to the test again after being symptom free for so long?

I and many with CVS have had such success with the meds on the empiric guidelines that if you was still struggling with CVS, even after abstaining from cannabis, I would be recommending you to try some of the meds, but it seems pretty obvious that if cannabis triggers your episodes that you should just avoid it. I still agree with the docs though and that if it isnt the cannabis it will be something else in the long term that will trigger another CVS attack (drink, stress, tiredness etc etc). Maybe not even a year later but I am sure if you have CVS it will find a way to creep back into your life......I may well be wrong though, thats where talking helps Thanks again

@ wage - I agree 100% mate. There is only one way to tell and that is to abstain. Most people with CVS who smoke cannabis have abstained but unfortunately to no avail. Most oftenly quoting "If only it was that easy" "why would we do this to ourselves" etc etc Everyone who has gone through CVS knows how painful it is and trust me, quiting cannabis is the easy in comparison to living with CVS. You are right though mate!

Thanks again for keeping things sensible

 

[cvssufferer]

I have stopped smoking for a year now.
And i have been symptom free.
I just dont know if its, marijuana, thc, or perhaps some chemicals used to grow it or to keep down insects and such.
Or if it has anything to do with that. Which im hoping it doesnt.

From my research mate it will be none of the above. To be honest I am surprised you have not had an attack in a year since abstaining cannabis. I am thinking maybe the meds you are taking are helping and this maybe coincided with you abstaining? hence the correllation?

Maybe not though...I am not a doctor. Just a mere CVSr trying to learn and/or set the record straight lol If abstaining cannabis means you are not ill then so be it. You only live once, dont live it in a hospital bed! Still, it would be intresting to see if you had an attack if you started chronic use again but if I was you I would be speaking to my GI about it first. California is legal for medicinal isnt it? So they should have no trouble discussing it?

Cheers

 

[MobsterSpock]

okay lets see here.

No i dont believe they ever mentioned anything about empiric treatment guidelines, or talked about any specialist. i doubt they know.

The only meds i really took for cvs were just nausea control medication (promethazine and a few others).

Yes i am smoking here and there. Not that much though as i'm fearful i'll get sick again.
I smoke a few bowls, usually one or two, and i usually wait four days or so in between. And that only lasts til i smoke the few grams of marijauna, and i wait about a month and a half til i do it again. So very little.

Okay and as far as my sickness, I would get sick one week out of the month, i was fine for three weeks, and i'll on the fourth week, and this continued without fail for 2 1/2 years.

Symptoms, i would typically notice a slight off feeling like a lingering dull nasusous feeling (hard to explain) the day before, which i can now recognize when i feel it and i would wake up vomiting intensly, with horrible nausea, i would throw up every ten minutes or so with no relief from vomiting (like you get with a normal sickness) i would often chug water to stop the dry heaves.
Sleep was almost impossible.
Okay so i'd be sick for five days, then on the sixth i could start eating again, seventh slightly week, but can eat fine. And the other three weeks perfect.

Now as far as triggers i dont know, see the thing about marijuana is it wouldnt just trigger the attack after i smoked it, i'd have to be smoking it everyday or very often for about three weeks or so.
I stopped smoking for three months and started smoking everday again. It wasnt until three weeks later that i got sick again, this time however it was half as long (could have been something else i just didnt want to risk it) it did feel the same though.

And yes although I want to smoke again so badly, and its so much safer then drinking whiskey everyday like i have been. But if it does cause the episodes its not worth it.

Also none of these symptoms started until i got bad food poisoning when in san fransico, i threw up all the way home from san fran to so cal, and i was sick for five days. I was diagnosed with H.pylori, which is a bad infection, i was diagnosed 2 1/2 years after the sickness, the same time i stopped marijuana.
And the Clarithromycin and Amoxicilin i said are anti biotics used to clear up the h.pylori. I also took nystatin to clear up a yeats infection of the esophagus (whci was probably from the vomiting)
And i was always waking up sick, i would throw up and it took me three hours every morning before i returned to normal, and that eventually stopped.
Although i would hope it was the h.pylori, i had quit smoking before and it seemed to length the time between episodes more and more.


If you could answer these questions, it'd be greatly appreciated.

Why did it start after five years of smoking everyday?
Could it be the chemicals used to grow it, would organic marijauna be a soultion?
Could it be the horrible diet i had? It was really a terrible diet.
Could it be my body trying to combat the h. pylori?
I also heard that CVS can be brought on or activated after a bad infection, is that true?

i know i might sound stupid for thinking its marijauna, it just seemed like it after the three months of abstaining and three months infection free. I got sick again. It comes more out of fear of getting sick again.

Hopefully that helps and thats for the discussion.

Oh and i havent taken any medication of any sort for ten months or so.

 

[cvssufferer]

Hiya mate, thankyou for answering my questions.

Regardless of the cause atm, it sounds like your CVS episodes are very similar to that of the Child CVS. The predictability of when they occur (one week in every 4) and the length being the same each time (sick for the same amount of days each time) is something very commonly seen in children and not so much the adults. Not saying there arent adults like you, its just your symptoms are more cyclic whereas alot of adults CVSrs suffer daily with symptoms and no particular cycle for when the actual episodes arrive.

Can I just say aswell, your certainly not stupid for thinking cannabis could be at the very least contributing to your CVS. Everyone is different and if the cannabis you smoke makes you anxious and paranoid, it stands to reason that cannabis use will trigger a CVS attack because Anxiety and Stress are known triggers. Your doing the right thing and asking the right questions, just in the wrong place if that makes sense.

If you was diagnosed with CVS I assume you have come across the CVSA on your internet travels. There is alot of information on there including treatment plans and information you can take to your doctor which explains the illness in more detail. The message board is a massive wealth of information on CVS too. There you will find others that suffer the same as you but do not smoke cannabis. You will certainly find more people on there than on here (no offence to this forum) who would be able to help you answer if cannabis is contributing to your symptoms. I must say though, I find it very disappointing that 2 doctors have diagnosed you with CVS but not even mentioned the CVSA or empiric Guidelines. The least they can do is learn about an illness and the meds that help it if their going to diagnose it!! If you would be willing to share the names of these consultants/doctors (via PM obviously) I would like to address this issue personally with them. I will certainly raise it on the message board.

Is your CVS caused by cannabis? I wish I knew for you mate. Personally from what I have read, like I said, cannabis can trigger episodes for some people but on the flip side, sufferers who know cannabis is not a trigger get great relief from it. You will know how hard it is to get your stomach going again after an attack, cannabis for me does a great job at this. I never smoke during an episode obviously, just far too poorly.

I will try and answer your questions as you had the respect to do it for me

1 - If you read up on CHS, the doctors who are touting this as a new illness state that they do not know why CHS occurs after sometimes many years of smoking. There are some theories relating to cannabinoid receptors but for every theory there is, there is a doctor who disagrees with it. A CVS specialist Dr Venkatesan states the very reason that the symptoms show themselves after sometimes years of smoking shows that it probably isnt linked to chronic cannabis use but something else.

2 - I am pretty sure it is not the chemicals being used. I have seen a few people mention this but if certain chemicals or methods of flushing caused CVS, there are millions of people around the world who smoke cannabis, even if you say 1% flush their weed like that, that would still mean a massive number of people who would suffer with CVS. The fact is there just isnt that many people with CVS. This also supports cannabis use as not being a cause. If cannabis caused CVS in 0.1% of 50 million users world wide, that is still a staggering 50,000 sufferers! There just simply isnt that many CVS patients, nevermind ones who smoke cannabis. The support groups for CVS on facebook have between 50 and 150 members, of which half dont smoke cannabis atleast.

3 - The horrible diet. Yes, yes and more yes lol It is quite obvious from looking at my diet and that of many of my cannabis smoking friends, cannabis and eating healthy normally does not go hand in hand. Lets face it, if your waking up everyday doing very little and getting stoned all day, then munching on take aways and chocolate on a night, it stands to reason your going to mess your stomach up. My theory on this is (again I am not a doctor lol), when you abstain from cannabis, a large percentage of smokers will feel more motivation and get into a more healthier lifestyle without even realising it. Some may think abstaining cannabis use has stopped their vomiting when infact its their new healthier lifestyle. That being said, you stated that you abstained and then a few months later started up again for 3 weeks and was sick again. This indicates that your healthier eating didnt effect your vomiting unless ofcourse the 3 weeks you started smoking again you was doing no exercise and eating junk food?

4 - Honestly I know nothing about h.pylon so I wouldnt like to comment. Its interesting your how first episode co-incided with you getting h.pylon but again I really am not a doctor so wouldnt like to comment at all.

5 - Yeah thats true mate. Kind of like what I was saying in question 4. Some CVS sufferers have an attack start even after a common cold. I remember my first ever attack started during a really bad Flu episode. Incidentally at the time I was smoking cannabis but only twice a week max. I had a fantastic job so only smoked with a friend when he wasnt at work too. So yeah, other conditions or underlying problems can most certainly show themselves through CVS.

All of that being said, you think your CVS is linked to your cannabis use. I certainly wont argue with that. If you are fully well with no cannabis smoking and no meds and living a healthy lifestyle then honestly, carry on as you are, life is far too short. If you want to test the theory of cannabis hyperemesis you must try living the same healthy lifestyle you are now with healthy eating...no matter how bad the munchies get lol and then introduce daily cannabis use. Like I said, maybe it is a bonus that you live in california?

It would appear I have waffled again, sorry mate lol. Finally I will cover my own bum and say again to everyone I am not a doctor and please NO-ONE act on any information you have learnt from me. Feel free to follow it up with your own research but you must take the information to your doctor and discuss it with them first before acting on anything. I may well be totally wrong about everything!! Many illnesses present themselves with CVS type symptoms, all of these must be ruled out first before CVS can be ruled in.

There is so much information out there mate.......about both illnesses. The CVSA is the best place to discuss CVS but they do believe that cannabis does not cause CVS and thus the discussions sometimes go down hill. You have to look abit harder for CHS...google searches bring in alot of the threads I have posted in

Hope I have helped

 

[cvssufferer]

I will just add (not your fault at all mate)

Rumours of Cyclic Vomiting being caused by cannabis use is potentially very damaging to the illness as a whole. If your original post did not mention CVS, cyclic vomiting, I probably wouldnt be here now.

I have tried to explain to the CVSA that it isnt me making the connection, it is people on the internet. I just wanted to set that straight incase anyone from there reads this thread lol.

 

[MobsterSpock]

I cant think you enough, its very much appreciated!

I will look into cvsa.

Im going to test out the cannabis, with a much heathier lifestyle im currently on, and cannabis is actually my motivation to exercise more, eat better, and cut out processed food haha.

Well i'll test it out and you posted my results, if you'd like I'll post it on here or I can email you if you would prefer that.

Thanks again.

and if by any chance you do have anymore questions please ask.

 

[MobsterSpock]

I cant think you enough, its very much appreciated!

I will look into cvsa.

Im going to test out the cannabis, with a much heathier lifestyle im currently on, and cannabis is actually my motivation to exercise more, eat better, and cut out processed food haha.

Well i'll test it out and you posted my results, if you'd like I'll post it on here or I can email you if you would prefer that.

Thanks again.

and if by any chance you do have anymore questions please ask.

 

[DMT777]

I also suffer from CHS. When i quit smoking or smoke very little I'm completely fine but when i start smoking heavy i start experiencing the symptoms again. I believe it is the THC, whenever i smoke high grade cannabis i end up throwing up the next morning (during period of heavy smoking).

It doesn't matter what kind of cannabis if i get to much in my system the symptoms return. Usually about once every 1-2 months, most of the time it last around 3 days other times it last about a week.

 

[MobsterSpock]

What is your version of heavy?
I had friends that would smoke ungodly amounts in one sitting.
I typically just smoke a gram usually less but spread it out all day (small snaps every hour or so)

Did you get sick in the morning all the time?

And how often did you smoke when you were not smoking heavy?

How is your diet?
I ate horribly and rarely drank water, I drank like a half gallon of powerade a day sometimes a gallon hahaha I was so dumb.

Tell me about your experience, It should help when I start up again.

And if I come off rude i did not mean too.

Thanks.

oh and also how long did you smoke heavily before your first sickness?
It was 5 years for me.

 

[cvssufferer]

I cant think you enough, its very much appreciated!

I will look into cvsa.

Im going to test out the cannabis, with a much heathier lifestyle im currently on, and cannabis is actually my motivation to exercise more, eat better, and cut out processed food haha.

Well i'll test it out and you posted my results, if you'd like I'll post it on here or I can email you if you would prefer that.

Thanks again.

and if by any chance you do have anymore questions please ask.

Hiya mate,

To be honest (and in the nicest way possible ofcourse) I am very surprised that you have managed to find and post about a theory of a possible connection between cannabis and your diagnosed condition cyclic vomiting, yet you have never come across the CVSA. If you search google for cyclic vomiting it is only the 4th search down :/

As before, I am also shocked the doctors who diagnosed you with Cyclic Vomiting didnt know enough to advise you of the correct meds to try or atleast point you in the right direction. Again, it would be great if you could let me know their names and hospitals...I will forward it to the CVSA and they may well like to contact them.

Now I have told you about the CVSA I am guessing you have been there looking for some answers? Thats where I would go. Seriously mate, it may well change you life. Only 43% of surveyed adult CVS patients smoke cannabis which indicates a correllation not a caussation but cannabis caused or not, the CVSA and other patients and doctors may like to hear your story if you symptoms are so similar but caused by cannabis use. Especially when you have been diagnosed with CVS. No offence to this forum at all but more people with your symptoms are on the CVSA message board, whatever the cause may be.

Thanks DMT...have you been diagnosed with anything?

Please, let us know about your trials. Still, I will say again there is treatment plans for your diagnosed illness CVS. By all means abstain from cannabis but if you notice the symptoms dont improve or dont completely disappear there is help out there.

Good luck all