Is it true that people are getting higher yields salting with fumaric acid rather than citric acid using CIELO?
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CIELO Question
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We have found that the last 100 to 150mg of mescaline citrate don't precipitate. This is variable, depending on water content. In contrast, fumarate will completely crash.
Almost all the uncrashed mescaline citrate remains in the EA during reclaim and will be part of the next extraction. For citric acid users, this becomes "conditioned EA".
It doesn't really matter much, unless someone extracts a low yielding cactus such as PC with fresh EA. In this situation (usually PC), citrate could yield 0% l, while fumarate could yield 0.15% (as the most extreme example). With reclaimed/conditioned EA, there would be no big difference.
Hope this makes sense.
At the end of the day, the TEK now recommends using fumaric for this and other reasons. Cheers.
I did for sure. Also I wanted to post an interesting preparation result: I grew 25 Trichocereus b outside in pots and got a pillbug infestation. In attempting to remedy the problem I inadvertantly used a strong detergent/water solution instead of safer soap. This unfortunately destroyed the Epicuticular Wax layer and my plants were subject to extreme UV damage resulting in black to orange areas with liquid blistering under the skin covering up to 25% of some plants. As this seemed to be killing them I harvested and performed the CIELO extract/crystal procedure. The results were amazing! Previously I averaged 2.2% to 2.4% mescaline fumarate by dry weight but the damaged plants increased yield by 50% yielding an average 3.5%. I have performed 4 CIELO processes and the results are consistent. Any thoughts?
That is interesting. What detergent did you use? How long between damage and harvest? Have any pictures?
