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Hello Nexus,

Has anyone encountered or worked with Claviceps Paspali and its host grass?

It's a kind of ergot fungus that grows on Paspalum Distichum, a cosmopolitan weed, probably from the tropical Americas.

It's quite invasive in some places and it should have a similar alkaloid profile to LSAs bearing plants, plus some tremorgenic indole-diterpene alkaloids, in a similar way to Phalaris species that contain gramine.

Similarly it induces staggers and tremors in cattle that eat too much of it, but if taken away from the infected pasture they recover in brief periods.

It contains paspalic acid too and it is used industrially for the production of ergometrine and lysergic acid amides.

Its life cycle has different stages, it infects the flowers and the seeds of the plant and it reproduces both sexually and asexually.

It is interesting because sexual reproduction happens through a sclerotium, like claviceps purpurea, spreading the spores in the ground for winter dormancy.

More interesting is the asexual reproduction, done by hijacking the flower and inducing it to produce a honeydew rich in sugars and conidia that attract insects to spread it.

In the honeydew stage it should be rich of ergolines too.

The questions that have been running in my head for a loooooong time are:

How clean is the alkaloid profile? It seems that it shouldn't bear the same risks of vasoconstiction and gangrene as C. purpurea?

Can LSAs be extracted like form morning glories?

Can it be used as it is since humans are not big ruminants and the dose should be a fraction of what an animal could eat in days of grazing?

Are paspalitremines active as tremorgens in humans or is it similar to gramine, that could be a stimulant?

Could a strain of the host or of the fungus be isolated to produce only the useful alkaloids?

I've found some specimens and collected some samples, done some approach to bioassays too, as I suspect it is active, but I'd like if someone else would like to share some thoughts on it.

Thanks

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is no good for making d.Lysergics.
No paspali cultures are lesser toxic compared to purpurea,they have lesser vasocostrictor alkaloids like ergometrine cianoclavine ..they could be cultivated on agar and exatly yesta evening i saw on erowid or maybe shroomary,yes i think was shroomary of a nice grow of it (it seeemed like a yogurth cultures but the guy said it's same concetration of lsa by weight of HBWR) enough to focus my attention on it:For alkaloids separation..really dunno i think yes,but not easy,dunno if is sufficient use different polarity solvents or if a cromatografy column is needed
Citations needed in both instances, naturally.
 
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That seems like a lot of work, being a given.

If I had to say anything about the alkaloids separating though, it's that this organic mass is not suitable to synthesis. The 2nd reaction is going to break, especially if you are on a line in your lab-ware. No joke, it's really gotta be Ergot. (There's something to tartrate as well, if you know what I mean)
 
That seems like a lot of work, being a given.

If I had to say anything about the alkaloids separating though, it's that this organic mass is not suitable to synthesis. The 2nd reaction is going to break, especially if you are on a line in your lab-ware. No joke, it's really gotta be Ergot. (There's something to tartrate as well, if you know what I mean)
Yeah, it's alot of work, and chemistry. Not only did I do the batch fermentation, I did the extraction and alkaline hydrolysis, as well as analysis with a MALDI. This isn't for novices, that's for sure. It's alot of plating, mutation, more plating, experimentation with mutagens like HATu and garcinol.
This is an ergoline factory, in 20% mannitol, pH 5.2. C. Paspali.
 

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I suppose that it could be some kind of manipulative solution in end state material. Maybe a valid source to a semi-synthetic variation of Tri-Methyl-Tryptamine, especially after what you just said
 

I have around a GB of files on all things ergot-related. As I mentioned, I worked with a strain of c. paspali for a year and a half, solo, and generated LCMS data.
 
That's awesome, have you referenced your data to emissions yet? We were able to cultivate Ergot with a researchers license in Los Angeles years ago, about a decade ago or so we had harvested. Interestingly enough, the LSD25 that was compounded out of this study was containing the city's emission in a linear fashion. The weight was pure, but the .1% ratio of 99.9% purity at grading turned out to be all of that. Maybe there's something to it? We couldn't find anything to look into
 
That's awesome, have you referenced your data to emissions yet? We were able to cultivate Ergot with a researchers license in Los Angeles years ago, about a decade ago or so we had harvested. Interestingly enough, the LSD25 that was compounded out of this study was containing the city's emission in a linear fashion. The weight was pure, but the .1% ratio of 99.9% purity at grading turned out to be all of that. Maybe there's something to it? We couldn't find anything to look into
I had not. The work I did was with an italian S&H strain, from 2010-2012. Senescense set in after five generations.
 
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I know what you mean, ours was a first hatch Clavips. We caught it at the start and were looking into what had happened in 'occuration' to the event. It's a good thing too.
 
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