@blig-blug and @Voidmatrix, thank you for the encouragement for sharing from my world. It's past bedtime here. Hopefully I will write an appropriate response tomorrow. Good night Nexus.
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Considerations with Regards to Attunement of Consciousness and Experience of Esoteric Phenomena
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I was referring to ontological realness, but I totally accept your response, especially how you point out that nothing has suggested an alternative explanation regarding the trip only occurring in your own mind. I can't pretend that's not a reasonable conclusion to arrive at, all things considered.
I mention 5-MeO-DMT a lot. If you ever experience a breakthrough dose of that, I wonder if it'd move your position on the nature of consciousness, and particularly the understanding of what you yourself actually are. There have been more than a few staunch atheists who were forced to entirely rethink their view of reality after that one.
Do share, we are eagerly waiting on your view =]
Same with German and the Scandinavian languages; Wissenschaft/videnskab [using Danish as the latter example] vs. Glauben/tro [Vísindi vs. Átrúnaður in Icelandic
]'Science' itself as a word is derived from the Latin "scientas", again meaning "knowledge" and also encountered as a route in words like "omniscient" and "prescient".
Maybe it would be helpful to view knowledge as being akin to a map, and belief akin to a compass, while striving to recognise the limitations of each tool in their complementary uses in navigating human experience.
Apologies for the lag, catching up a bit here.
Knowledge... 
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I'm in the position of reconciling both viewpoints, having had experiences of direct communication with nonhuman intelligence (including plants) and extracorporeal energy fields (including being 'told to eff off' by an old beech tree through a physically tangible energy pulse).@Varallo, I must admit that I feel like the odd one out in this place as a person who bases my practice on plants and not molecules. So I might not get much resonance if I elaborate on what I am talking about. Entities are an entirely different subject and I am not really interested in that domain. Plant spirits are a much more grounded, basic sphere of study and I hang out in that world. I would have (and have) gone in detail in this in the Ayahuasca forums, but here I will just be like a weird bird singing a foreign unintelligible song, I feel.
I'd read your comments on the matter with great interest.
Glad you're tickled… hope your map's up to date, and you're not standing too near large bodies of magnetic materialKnowledge...
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Science is nauka in Slavic languages, with the root učiti meaning "to teach." Older roots point to "tame," "domesticate," and "to be accustomed to."
I like the Sanskrit Vēdaḥ for knowledge. The root is still in use today in my mother tongue and many other Slavic languages.
I like the Sanskrit Vēdaḥ for knowledge. The root is still in use today in my mother tongue and many other Slavic languages.
Vēdaḥ → weten/viden/wissen, quite clearly. My Slavic etymological …knowledge… is sadly bordering on nonexistent, and as such I'd be glad if you could go into a little (or a lot!) more detail on the "domesticate" aspect.
Science is great. It can tell us all sorts of things about psychedelics and receptor affinities.
Personally my impression taking psilocybin and ayahuasca has been that western science is at least partly in the dark if not entirely clueless as to what is really going on…both inside our brains and within the biosphere as a whole.
I can’t even explain away the effects of a simple icaro on my tripping state of mind. It’s often so far beyond music I simply call it magick. Some people are masters and just do without taking the thing apart…and some people tinker away trying to take apart, understand or improve everything but miss what’s already there.
Neither is wrong imo but we do tend to favour one over the other and in that sense we are partially blind.
Personally my impression taking psilocybin and ayahuasca has been that western science is at least partly in the dark if not entirely clueless as to what is really going on…both inside our brains and within the biosphere as a whole.
I can’t even explain away the effects of a simple icaro on my tripping state of mind. It’s often so far beyond music I simply call it magick. Some people are masters and just do without taking the thing apart…and some people tinker away trying to take apart, understand or improve everything but miss what’s already there.
Neither is wrong imo but we do tend to favour one over the other and in that sense we are partially blind.
In Belorussian, "to know" is viedać, so it's the same Sanskrit root. The učiti root from nauka is literally "to teach," and that is the modern meaning.
Wiktionary gives a bit more on its origin here. Looking at how our languages build, it is quite obvious that we are all one big Indo-European family.
That's why any conflict in the region saddens me very deeply. Money and influence play a bigger role than blood nowadays. I hope we will get through this madness.
An interesting etymology. Looking it up on Wiktionary, it seems like the PIE root is weyd-, which meant "to see", and is the PIE root of "wisdom" and "wit" as well. But also "idea" (through Greek) and "vision" (through Latin). Together with many, many more.
We are branches of the same tree and share a common root. People call me mad when I point it out to them. Humans are one big family
