No, that's Cthulhu's cousin, Randy. Given the tentacle he's using, I wonder if he's kindly moving the biker to the clear bike lane there
Randy is nicer than I. I still should've tossed the guy on the scooter to the proper side of the street.
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Contained Road Rage: Driving Stories
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Randy is nicer than I. I still should've tossed the guy on the scooter to the proper side of the street.
Like I said, there are literally *hundreds* of miles of bike paths in the area that people can ride their bikes on to their heartās content. Yāall are projecting and making straw man arguments like @The Kraken said. You can take me and my thoughts and preferences completely out of the picture, and it will still be an ongoing, sketchy situation caused by people choosing to unnecessarily ride their bikes on narrow and curvy roads when there are countless other options in the area - namely, the aforementioned bike paths that are specifically built for recreational bike riding, and have plenty of scenic views, but none of the clout of biking on mountain roads.
Specifically, the road in question has signs saying not to pass bikes around curves, yet the whole road is one big curve, and people inevitably do it. At the end of the day, this road has no bike lanes or sidewalks and is there for cars to drive on.
As an aside, the cost of the dumb road bikes that people ride on it would be enough to feed an entire family for a year in some developing country - a sign of what was once a thriving center of art and music getting gentrified and taken over by tech companies, raising the cost of living, and causing people who donāt have an extra $5000 to spend on a bicycle (and matching tights) to move elsewhere.
Specifically, the road in question has signs saying not to pass bikes around curves, yet the whole road is one big curve, and people inevitably do it. At the end of the day, this road has no bike lanes or sidewalks and is there for cars to drive on.
As an aside, the cost of the dumb road bikes that people ride on it would be enough to feed an entire family for a year in some developing country - a sign of what was once a thriving center of art and music getting gentrified and taken over by tech companies, raising the cost of living, and causing people who donāt have an extra $5000 to spend on a bicycle (and matching tights) to move elsewhere.
Some people just prefer road biking over trail biking. But if it's tech bros we're talking about, you may yet persuade me to feed them to the local wildlife - just not for reasons of their choice of leisure transport.
Now, how much might we acheive if the price of the average gas guzzler were spent on the local economy or foreign aid instead? Surely a road bike costs peanuts by comparisonā¦
Now, how much might we acheive if the price of the average gas guzzler were spent on the local economy or foreign aid instead? Surely a road bike costs peanuts by comparisonā¦
This is somewhat moot isn't it. It's not us lil folk you need to share this with, but rather those that have implemented the current cultural state we find ourselves in, so governments and corporations.
You're still hung up on a joke that was to express frustration not advocate for anything in reality (I'm not actually a Kraken
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And yes, but the point is there are areas in which this is more dangerous for them and so they are making a choice to put themselves in harms way and impede the flow of traffic. People can vent their frustration about that without being admonished for it.
Othering of people riding bicycles is a specific bugbear of mine, it's certainly nothing personal and I still maintain the utmost respect for @ommani - to the extent that I'd like to challenge an anti-cycling mindset whenever it arises since it has the potential to endanger both me personally and those closest to me, however indirectly.This is somewhat moot isn't it. It's not us lil folk you need to share this with, but rather those that have implemented the current cultural state we find ourselves in, so governments and corporations.
You're still hung up on a joke that was to express frustration not advocate for anything in reality (I'm not actually a Kraken
Do we really need reminding again that even joking about imaginary violence goes against the Nexus attitude?
There is no shortage of roads with bike lanes that they can ride on - itās about the thrill/clout of riding on mountain roads, circumstances be damned.
Theyāre not just putting themselves in harms way, they are putting drivers in harms way for the reason that I have been reiterating like a broken record.
Theyāre not just putting themselves in harms way, they are putting drivers in harms way for the reason that I have been reiterating like a broken record.
How dare they! 
So, it's OK for them to ride a bike just as long as they don't get in your way? And you don't see the potential problem with that viewpoint? I get that it's a difficult shift of cognitive gears from a perspective of a hopelessly car-centric cultureā¦
One thing I'd like to clarify is just how suitable any of the bike paths might be for road bikes. Anything other than mirror-smooth asphalt is clearly unacceptable
So, it's OK for them to ride a bike just as long as they don't get in your way? And you don't see the potential problem with that viewpoint? I get that it's a difficult shift of cognitive gears from a perspective of a hopelessly car-centric cultureā¦
One thing I'd like to clarify is just how suitable any of the bike paths might be for road bikes. Anything other than mirror-smooth asphalt is clearly unacceptable
How dare they!
So, it's OK for them to ride a bike just as long as they don't get in your way? And you don't see the potential problem with that viewpoint? I get that it's a difficult shift of cognitive gears from a perspective of a hopelessly car-centric cultureā¦
One thing I'd like to clarify is just how suitable any of the bike paths might be for road bikes. Anything other than mirror-smooth asphalt is clearly unacceptable
Weāre not talking about people commuting by bicycle, as has been made abundantly clear.
The bike trails are perfectly paved and go on for miles. Plenty of roads with bike lanes too, as Iāve already mentioned.
Your adherence to the straw man argument youāve been espousing indicates a level of concrete thinking typically associated with āspecialā individuals.
You are a very āspecialā moderator, arenāt you?
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This is getting out of hand.
The pro-cycle argument is heavily laced with good intentions.There is nothing to fault with the morality.
The anti-cycle argument was mostly just for fun I thought.
Just like traffic wardens/parking attendants, cyclists are widely considered fair game for comic ridicule. Many (not all) of them do seem to behave like bell ends on the roads.
Love this derail though. Not as valid as the first one perhaps, but much more fun.
The pro-cycle argument is heavily laced with good intentions.There is nothing to fault with the morality.
The anti-cycle argument was mostly just for fun I thought.
Just like traffic wardens/parking attendants, cyclists are widely considered fair game for comic ridicule. Many (not all) of them do seem to behave like bell ends on the roads.
Love this derail though. Not as valid as the first one perhaps, but much more fun.
It's interesting you want to talk down to him and insult his intelligence while strawmanning and missing the point yourself.
Again, leave it alone. Let's all move on.
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When searching the word "violence" on the Attitude Page, only one is found and it mentions serious violence and for the chat.
Stop throwing the book at him now.
@ommani Which to me sounds like a reasonable view point.
An analogy for why neither argument is wrong here. The human in a city can say love even mosquitoes. But not a human in the tropics. At some.point fuck the mosquitoes, die.
Now I'm not saying all cyclist must die, not yet, but I am saying our individual experiences of cyclist on the main roads, the ones built for 70mph steel boxes, may vary by a lot.
An analogy for why neither argument is wrong here. The human in a city can say love even mosquitoes. But not a human in the tropics. At some.point fuck the mosquitoes, die.
Now I'm not saying all cyclist must die, not yet, but I am saying our individual experiences of cyclist on the main roads, the ones built for 70mph steel boxes, may vary by a lot.
I deleted my human on human violence jokes. Left the cephalopod on human ones.
The issue with transportation is that in reality it's not about needs, bikes, cars, or whatever, but about a situation where truly "might is right". Car drivers get annoyed at bicycle drivers because they dare slow them down. And then those same bicycle drivers drive like animals on hiking paths, expecting people walking to get out of their way. It can be rationalized all one wants, but to me it's obvious that the cause is being inconvenienced by others in a situation where one could easily harm them. That frustration of having it very easy to harm someone daring to inconvenience you and yet not doing it leads to rumination, fantasies of violence, and other symptoms of repressed aggression.
That's what I was trying to illustrate with my little jokes, sorry if they were in poor taste.
That's what I was trying to illustrate with my little jokes, sorry if they were in poor taste.
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Uhm, joke's on you, I very much enjoy the trumpet and would relax even further if someone were to play it for me while I'm chilling on the sofa.
All that is to say, I think this is long past getting out of hand. Let's cool off a bit, take a sip of water, do some breathwork, look at some trees in real life, and remind ourselves that we're all in the same boat.
Uhm, joke's on you, I very much enjoy the trumpet and would relax even further if someone were to play it for me while I'm chilling on the sofa.
All that is to say, I think this is long past getting out of hand. Let's cool off a bit, take a sip of water, do some breathwork, look at some trees in real life, and remind ourselves that we're all in the same boat.
You don't get that an "innocent joke" actually interprets for me as a threat against my children? Do I have to spell it out in words of one syl-lab-le?
This particular issue is too important to me to let it slide - YOU all need to have a rethink.
This particular issue is too important to me to let it slide - YOU all need to have a rethink.
Um, nope - this is road bikes we're talking about and they wouldn't last five minutes on a hiking trail so leave it out with your whataboutism.
You clearly haven't heard my trumpet playing - if you had, you'd be advocating throwing me into the ravine with the mountain lions@Transform
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Uhm, joke's on you, I very much enjoy the trumpet and would relax even further if someone were to play it for me while I'm chilling on the sofa.
All that is to say, I think this is long past getting out of hand. Let's cool off a bit, take a sip of water, do some breathwork, look at some trees in real life, and remind ourselves that we're all in the same boat.
Hey, they say beauty is in the eye of the beholder...or in your case, perhaps in the ruptured eardrum of the poor beholderYou clearly haven't heard my trumpet playing - if you had, you'd be advocating throwing me into the ravine with the mountain lions
