Cool Ideas about the Conscious Matrix

[sekretweapon]

Psyche quote - "Have you ever met a scientist? Been in a lab? If they're bullshitting us, they really are putting in a lot of money time and resources just to fuck with us.

My guess is that you are not a geologist or an archeologist, because lets face it. You don't trust "science". But cmon you had to use a computer to get to this website, and if someone didn't have an understanding of electrical currents, metallurgy, and other various disciplines then you wouldn't be here on this site. OF course it's very possible that aliens built the hyper advanced computer that you're using and brainwashed the people of the Dell corporation into selling it to you.

Sorry about I'm being a smartass here, but I do trust "science", it's brought us a greater understanding of this universe, enrished our lives, created better medicine, and taught us about our past."





I majored in Chemical Engineering.


I think I have watched every single astrophysics show that has been on the discovery channel and the science channel. I'm dorky like that.


Science taught me a fraction about the Universe.


DMT is the REAL teacher if you want to know about the Universe. Maybe you should try smoking some.


And if you Google the words "Plate Tectonics" you will understand that a continental shift is the only physical method that can place those pyramids can be underwater.

So whomever built the Pyramids of Yonaguni; did so a long, long, long, time ago.

Scientists do not bullshit us. However universities are controlled, the people who run the Universities only teach us a fraction of what has been discovered. There are forces that do not want us to know too much.

Because Knowledge is Power, and too much knowledge is too much power, so we only get the watered down Education.


FYI - weather it be organizations or individuals, people do lie constantly.

But like I said earlier,

The truth will come out.

 

[hixidom]

I think that Psychelectric's claim is that those are not really pyramids (Correct me if I'm wrong, Psychelectric). From what I saw, it seems entirely possible that those structures could've been created by earthquake or erosion or some combination of those two. It is, of course, also possible that the water level has simply risen since humans built such structures many millennia ago (which they seem to have done elsewhere)

Regardless, I think we should consider the possibility of the "scientific" (aka commonly accepted) cause of such structures, which is nature or ancient humans. The effect of this is not that our world seems more boring, but that our appreciation for the complexity of nature and determination of humans is increased. It could be that aliens created Mount Roraima, but is it THAT unlikely that, given many millions of years, such structures can form naturally? Given the evidence (my experience of nature vs. my lack of experience of aliens building things), I think nature is the more likely cause.

 

[Psychelectric]

I majored in Chemical Engineering.
I think I have watched every single astrophysics show that has been on the discovery channel and the science channel. I'm dorky like that.
Science taught me a fraction about the Universe.
DMT is the REAL teacher if you want to know about the Universe. Maybe you should try smoking some.

And if you Google the words "Plate Tectonics" you will understand that a continental shift is the only physical method that can place those pyramids can be underwater.
So whomever built the Pyramids of Yonaguni; did so a long, long, long, time ago.
Scientists do not bullshit us. However universities are controlled, the people who run the Universities only teach us a fraction of what has been discovered. There are forces that do not want us to know too much.

Because Knowledge is Power, and too much knowledge is too much power, so we only get the watered down Education.
FYI - weather it be organizations or individuals, people do lie constantly.

You're a chemical engineer? :surprised . That's even more depressing. However I don't care how dorky you are or into astrophysics, likewise TV shows are for entertainment, they don't constitute an education, unless you feel the TV educates you better than a "watered down university". That being said astrophysics has nothing to say about Yonaguni. That's an issue for archeologists and geologists to figure out. Maybe those are the 2 fields of science you don't trust. Either way Yonaguni is still a mystery, there are top minds trying to figure it out. I hope your evidence that it was built by space faring superhumans thousands of years ago wasn't generated from watching YouTube vids. What I'm trying to say is that I trust the people actually spending there time money and diving equipment studying it.

Also As far as DMT is the real teacher, maybe you should smoke some. That worries me a lot. First off I have smoked DMT, plenty of times, I have a few experience reports on here. DMT has taught me about myself. But certainly not given me revelations about the universe. (maybe I'm not smoking enough, lol).

Furthermore on the topic of plate tectonics, I don't know enough about geology to engage in that discuss nor do I know about rock formations ect. Maybe while studying chemical bonds and benzene rings you had an epiphany about geology, or maybe DMT gave you classes in hyperspace, but my guess is that you don't have a formal education on geology or archeology. Though I think the problem here really is that you may be a smart person and in your arrogance you think that your own intuition can grasp many concepts without taking the time to actual study them. As that can be the case with lazy smart people. Vague understanding aren't real understandings.

Also you're not the only person who has had wild delusions while under the influence of hallucinatory drugs.
And also if you have been to college you would realize that it's the scientists (professors, usually doing research) typically doing the educating. What interest do they have in keeping the next generation in the dark? They don't. The "evil" goal of universities is not to keep people in the dark, it's to make money. Plain and simple. Yes knowledge is power but I for one believe that most people are good and that true educators live to spread their knowledge. You're right the truth will set us free, it's the scientists who are busting their ass trying to figure out the truth who are trying to free people from delusions and superstitions.

 

[Psychelectric]

I think that Psychelectric's claim is that those are not really pyramids (Correct me if I'm wrong, Psychelectric).

Yeah that sounds about right from what I've read, though I don't claim expertise.

Either way I don't want to get this thread off topic. ill try to post later, after more people have, with some of my viewpoints and philosophies on the Conscious Matrix idea. Peace

 

[Enoon]

I don't necessarily think that just because people aren't teaching about artefacts that don't fit the current theory of history, that there is a big conspiracy behind it. I mean we still teach gallileo's mechanics even though we know that really we have to use relativistic equations... or even if we find something that doesn't fit the current theory, it still might be valid to a certain degree. It doesn't always make sense to go into detail about all the things that don't fit, especially if you are teaching. Because in the end you'd have to say - actually we don't understand this and we don't really know...

Not everyone is ready to admit these things. And less are payed to do so. So they stick to the stories that are established, not due to some malicious intent, but simply because that's what is easiest to do...

Just my personal opinion...

 

[The Traveler]

And if you Google the words "Plate Tectonics" you will understand that a continental shift is the only physical method that can place those pyramids can be underwater.

If you claim something you have to support that claim. On this website we demand from its members to support their claims with logical reasoning and reliable sources. Also this looks a lot like a false dillema that you are presenting here.

So whomever built the Pyramids of Yonaguni; did so a long, long, long, time ago.

Logical reasoning and reliable sources please.

Scientists do not bullshit us. However universities are controlled, the people who run the Universities only teach us a fraction of what has been discovered. There are forces that do not want us to know too much.

Idem.

Because Knowledge is Power, and too much knowledge is too much power, so we only get the watered down Education.

Idem.


Also please read this thread:
No more Conspiracy Theory topics on the DMT-Nexus!


Kind regards,

The Traveler

 

[The Traveler]

Futhermore, I'm sure that you believe that these sort of people also built the pryamids of Egypt. As you strike me as the type who watches too much "Ancient Aliens" Sci Fi TV Shows and not enough time reading real books.

No ad hominem please, it brings down the level of the discussion.

On the DMT-Nexus we want constructive and respectful debates.


Kind regards,

The Traveler

 

[cubeananda]

 

[Psychelectric]

Futhermore, I'm sure that you believe that these sort of people also built the pryamids of Egypt. As you strike me as the type who watches too much "Ancient Aliens" Sci Fi TV Shows and not enough time reading real books.

No ad hominem please, it brings down the level of the discussion.

On the DMT-Nexus we want constructive and respectful debates.


Kind regards,

The Traveler

My apologies to sekretweapon and to others reading. I will admit that was a childish comment on my part, I let my frustrations get the better of me. Youre absolutely right, it contributes nothing to the discussion at hand.

 

[Psychelectric]

So now to contribute, .

WARNING this may be long.

In the beginning there was a big explosion where molecules and matter flew out at great speeds to plant the seeds of the universe. From this shower galaxies, nebulas and stars sprang up. One such star gained the orbit of several planets. The third planet down in it's infancy began to form what could be defined as life.It was a slow humble begining, with volcanos and thunderstorms. In the cradle of a great ocean protiens began to work together in units to form the first bacterial cells (abiogenisis). Compared to today's bacteria these beasts were quite primative, but they began to evolve. Eventually the bacteria started to work together and those single celled organisms began to work together to form the first multicelled organism, like a germ cell version of Voltron. Eventually these organisms became more and more complex as they aquired new traits to help them survive. Thus began the totemic evolution as we know it. From fish to amphibians to lizards to mammals to humans. All of the while this great tree of life splintered off in multitudes of other different directions to bring us birds, fungus, insects, trees, ect. ect. ect.

When humans came on the scene in the cradle of the world, Africa, they had mastered a skill that no other species had before. Intellegence. They were smart, so smart that they no longer needed thick pelts, or claws or fangs. In fact when they needed such things they made them from the resources of the earth. Instead of claws they had swords. Instead of humps on their backs they strung out animal bladders to make sacks to carry water. Then they began to work together to bring fruit from the earth in a great feat known as agriculture. They began farming, which turned those people from hunters and gatherers into a society. By this point human beings had spread across the planet. They developed different cultures based on the land around them. Those Native to North America wove tales about great coyote trickster spirits. Those in India told stories about cobras and monkeys. The Northman spun tales of wolves and ravens. As these cultures florished their languages became more complex and their religions became more than just campfire myths, they became a lifestyle. When these cultures started meeting with each other, some worked together, while others attempted to dominate and kill each other. This sort of primative behavior is going on know. It's a true egotistical ethnocentric behavior.

However beyond such war and domination, there is hope. With our modern technology we are able to communicate with and reach out to cultures we didn't previously understand, we swap recipies, trade music and ultimately share culture. In this we are realizing how close we really are to each other. Sure there are still those vicious egotistically ethnocentric people out there, but they are quickly becoming a minority under the weight of social media and communication technologies. Societies are becoming freer. Woman have more roles in society. African Americans are treated far better in the 2010s than they were in the 1950s. The world is getting better. It's slow, sometimes painfully, but it's still progress. We are connecting with each other. Essentially we are trying to build a Heaven on earth, with true peace.

I see this progression towards unity on our planet as a step closer to enlightenment on a macro scale, moving up in the evolution of our universe. Once we unify, not as a homogenous culture, but as a myriad of subniches like a fractal society we will start the goal of migrating from this planet and living in space. Because one day the sun will die, and we will ultimatly have to live among the stars. Surely when we begin to do this we will meet the other life that (statistically speaking), is probably out there in the universe. Then our culture clash will not happen with different states and groups on one planet, it will happen with many planets and many galaxies. This will happen until we spread our tendrils across infinity. Until we attempt to reach perfect harmony. Though when this happens, then we will be one with God. That's kind of the basic gist.

Futhermore, that is only going on on the 3-Dimensional universe. As we advance in our technology we could theoretically meet and bridge other 3-D universes. However all of this progression is forward. Meanwhile we will still be evolving.

In the future we will more than likely be like infantile cyborgs of sort. Infantile because of the constant domestication of ourselves (as wolves became dogs they deleloped a mindset that was more puppy like than wolf and we are undergoing a self domestication of sorts) and cyborgs because we will augment ourselves, such as today people with poor vision have contacts, though this will be greatly more evolved and exageratted then we can fathom at this point. Also as we advance ourselves we will create a sustainable planet. We will more than likely domesticate and diversify every species on this planet, (think domesticated bears for pets, like the progression from wolves to dogs, or something like that).

This evolution of our planet and our species I see as our progression towards enlightenment. We have to help people get past primitive instincts so that we can progress. Those that can not overcome their primative nature, will die. And thus evolution will continue.

I can not speak on the other planes of existence, such as 2-D, 4-D, 5-D and upwards of the great all everything 10-D, because it's impossible to fathom realms that as of now are only mathmatical concepts, with the exception of theories of interdimesional motion of subatomic paricles. Maybe some of our spirits and consciousness will ascend to these higher planes closer and closer to God, or the Godhead (also just so I am not biased, Vishnu, Allah, or whatever culturally tainted concept of God you happen to use).

In that regard lets face it, most culture wars are pointless semantics arguments. Whether you say, God, Jah, Vishnu, or the Godhead you are all talking about the same thing. Like wise when a psychologist says the Jungian shadow, a Native American speaks of the coyote trickster, a Northman talks of Loki or a Christian talks of the Devil you still are all talking about the same thing, the darker side of ourselves.

Doesn't God by any other name smell just as sweet. When we realize this, maybe we can find peace and we don't have to kill each other over individualized cultural expression.

We also have to ask ourselves, what is guiding us on this path?

Like cells are to our own body, are we merely the cells to a greater being, are our roadways, the veins of this planets, are our great cities (the meccas) like organs? From the most minute subatomic particles to the macro infinite of our universe, what role do ape men on one planet play?


Of course then again, it may all just be in your head or mine. :shock: :d :lol:

- Peace.

(There are many subfacets of this philosophy that I could discuss or go into more detail, but this is about as basic as I can make it)

 

[cubeananda]

Very nice adventure you pulled me through psy :lol:

I always find it very nice to hear ideas coming from a scale that is close to home and easily understandable.

My hope is to escape the inevitable movement of humans out away from our planet, and to bring my consciousness towards the sun, but of course people will keep happening and they no doubt will participate in a Star Wars of sorts.

Most likely beings that go to the higher dimensions will become medicloridians :roll:

And then The wars between tribes will eventually escalate/fractalate into the war between the dark side and the light. Sigh

I'm sure the souls of people like Alexander the great are just waiting for their time to go do something like be Anakin Skywalker

 

[Psychelectric]

Medicloridians :surprised , we need a better word then that :lol: . Likewise on the Star Wars analogy. Technically speaking if there really are infinite alternate realities that mirror our own in various ways, considering the principles of multiple dimensions ect, then there is a universe that has a galaxy far away with a Darth Vader and Princess Leia.

Maybe our inspiration for such fantasies is just a psychic connection to those realms? In fact maybe our philosophies and drives and passions in life guide our soul to such other dimensions. Such as if you were a huge Star Wars fan, when you died your soul would be closer to a reality that was in the Star Wars fantasy. In that way you sort of choose your own afterlife by the choices you made in this life. Same could apply in a karmic way for a soul winding up in a "heaven" or "hell" realm. Just a fun thought. Maybe I should start my own religion and call it Imagination, :?: :lol: .

 

[cubeananda]

I wake up every day and I imagine that I am the incarnation of the Brahman floating through a cosmic sea.

I distinctly remember being attracted to the energies of people like Mahavira and Buddha feeling kinda like what it feels like to eat Waffles with syrup when you're a kid.

Just so amazing.

Anyways I seem to recall a very intense and loving experience with a mountain just before I took a birth, and so I'm led to believe that my last memory before having to be narrowed down into a body was of Osho and a group of disciples gathering on a mountain.

I have a memory of experiencing Buddha's death, many leaves, in a forest.

But I couldn't claim to be him, it just seems that sentience is attracted to moments of high energy.

And It seems to me that we only live once, but pick up thoughts and desires ad information from the atmosphere which have been passed down through the ages.

Its probably possible to leave your own "Thought-tapes" floating around the atmosphere for someone else to pick up later down the line. If certain ideas are powerful enough, they will probably show up over and over again in isolated places throughout the world.

I really feel like Our existence is shaped by the fantasies of people 2 thousand years ago, and our future is probably shaped by our own fantasies and dreams.


One interesting thing is how Disney created a story about a Living Puppet, who has an external "conscience" in the form of what looks like a humanoid green bug (sounds like our commonly reported theme of the mantid species which seems to be able to read our thoughts)

I guess im kind of going on a tangent now, but I just like where this is going 8)