crystals melting

[AIRDOG]

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Im facing a problem.... have made several extractions.... im using some gerber 50 ml containers to freeze precipitate.... and get nice crystals.... I pour excess naptha and quickly put the container back in the frezeer upside down to have naptha run down for 24+ hours... but i always experience the crystals melting afterwards when i put them infront of a fan... like naptha just dont drip and turn my crystals to goo... turning everything yellow and detroying my re-x attempts...

i have been using cyb max ion tek, but i hate to have my awesome xtals just melt to shit again and again even when im decanting all naptha and putting my containers upside down.... it really sucks big time...

what i can do to bring them to nice xtal consistency to store the product... getting kinda angry and desperate because its like naptha gets kinda not flowing and wont run down the gerber container and keeping attached to xtals... melting them when i ger them out of freezer even if i placed upside down so naph can run down....

this is killing my nerve.... will this never get solid or what..??? I had nice white crystals but it then turns to goo and it sucks im desperate... i dont want to evap to get goo... really

 

[AIRDOG]

they have turned out well... its just a funny taste i get while i vaporize it.... its kinda spicy... is that dmt taste or its from solvent???

How bigs the jars ? It doesn't look like there's enough there for a decent dose really ! Are you sure you've got quality bark !:?: [/quote]

yes!!! that is from something like 4th pull from a q21q21...

the jars still smell like solvent even tough the xtals are dry...

@explorer7 I dried them with a small fan blowing inside the jars

 

[desal]

they have turned out well... its just a funny taste i get while i vaporize it.... its kinda spicy... is that dmt taste or its from solvent???

airdog, i'm having the exact same problem!
this is my first ever extraction and everything worked perfectly till the drying part
here what mine look like now

@Earthwalker, i will never use jars again
@desal, going forward i'm following your tek, this looks sharp

@ airdog, so how did you get them dry?

all help welcomed
thank you nexians

just pulled two pyrex dishes out of the freezer, I have had them drying underneath a fan for the last hour or so. this time i did not use the previously mentioned pyrex w/ lids, instead I used two pyrex dishes which I have had for years, with saran wrap over the top to keep moisture out. (the lids are much easier to work with than saran wrap) After 18+ hours in the freezer, I cut a hole in the saran wrap, making sure to remove it slowly from the top of the dish, without letting any of the saran wrap sag down and touch the naphtha. It would not hurt anything if it did, but it would make a little naphtha mess for a moment.

After removing all the saran wrap from the top of the dish, I tilted the dish so the naphtha ran to one side/corner, and used the pipette/eyedropper to pull all the naphtha out and put into a second jar. There were some crystals free-floating in the dish. As I slowly reduced the level of solvent via pipette, I would every-so-often set the dish down flat, so that some of these crystals would land on glass or attach to other crystals, which reduced the amount of free-floating crystals I had to worry about. I did this a couple times, but not all of the crystals stuck, some were left free-floating. I could have recovered these now, by putting a coffee filter over the second jar, then pouring the solvent through it to catch the crystals, but that runs the risk of spilling solvent down the side of the dish, possibly losing crystals, and the coffee filters i use tend to get clogged easy and take forever to fully drain through. Plus, there were more crystals stuck to the glass than there were free-floating, so I just sucked up the remaining solvent, including any free floating crystals, and transferred them with the solvent. They will come out eventually, either through freeze precip or final evap.

When I could not pull off anymore naphtha, I picked up the dish, leaving the plastic wrap behind so it doesn't get in the way, and tilted the dish so any remaining solvent was pooled in one corner. There wasn't enough to suck up, but there was still some visible solvent there, so I put that corner of the dish over the jar, and tilted it quickly to let the last couple drops pour off. I say quickly, because if you do it too slow, then the solvent will drip down the outside of the pyrex dish instead of falling into the second jar. I then set the dishes face down in the freezer, on top of the plastic wrap, to drip while I went upstairs and got the fan/table ready. I don't think it is necessary to place them down on top of the plastic wrap, but I do it just to make sure that nothing important drips off. If I was using the dishes with lids, then the lid would replace the plastic wrap and catch anything that drips off. If using the lids, DO NOT tip the dish back over when you take the dish out of the freezer or any solvent on the lid will go back into the crystals.

With the solvent I had left over in the jar from both the dishes:

I separated into two more dishes, four total. I did this in an attempt to freeze precipitate out as much as I can before I re-use the solvent. I separated into four dishes so that there is less volume per dish, which will hopefully cause more DMT to fall out as it gets cold again, although this may not yield any more crystals than were already precipitated out of the larger volume, as I did not let it get warm first. I just separated into multiple dishes with lids (from the previous post) and put it right back where it was. I'll check it again tomorrow.

What I did with the dishes:

I placed them in between two books on the table, so they would stand up on their side, and then placed a fan on high blowing directly into them. They will condensate, so every 5 minutes or so, I flip them over to a new side and let the fan dry all the drops. With these particular dishes, they are "heavy" so I used textbooks and put some weighted objects on them to prevent the dish from sliding. (I used a railroad spike on one side and a tape measure on the other) For this picture, and for drying both at the same time, I have arranged the dishes to sit on top of each other, but when I originally was drying them, I just pulled one out of the freezer at a time and dried them separately.

(Window was originally open)

I have not recrystallized yet.

First pull: there does appear some minor oil/goo in between the crystals, but not much.

Second pull:

Kinda white

Some goo from second pull:

Side by side:

 

[Winemaker]

they have turned out well... its just a funny taste i get while i vaporize it.... its kinda spicy... is that dmt taste or its from solvent???

airdog, i'm having the exact same problem!
this is my first ever extraction and everything worked perfectly till the drying part
here what mine look like now

@Earthwalker, i will never use jars again
@desal, going forward i'm following your tek, this looks sharp

@ airdog, so how did you get them dry?

all help welcomed
thank you nexians

just pulled two pyrex dishes out of the freezer, I have had them drying underneath a fan for the last hour or so. this time i did not use the previously mentioned pyrex w/ lids, instead I used two pyrex dishes which I have had for years, with saran wrap over the top to keep moisture out. (the lids are much easier to work with than saran wrap) After 18+ hours in the freezer, I cut a hole in the saran wrap, making sure to remove it slowly from the top of the dish, without letting any of the saran wrap sag down and touch the naphtha. It would not hurt anything if it did, but it would make a little naphtha mess for a moment.

After removing all the saran wrap from the top of the dish, I tilted the dish so the naphtha ran to one side/corner, and used the pipette/eyedropper to pull all the naphtha out and put into a second jar. There were some crystals free-floating in the dish. As I slowly reduced the level of solvent via pipette, I would every-so-often set the dish down flat, so that some of these crystals would land on glass or attach to other crystals, which reduced the amount of free-floating crystals I had to worry about. I did this a couple times, but not all of the crystals stuck, some were left free-floating. I could have recovered these now, by putting a coffee filter over the second jar, then pouring the solvent through it to catch the crystals, but that runs the risk of spilling solvent down the side of the dish, possibly losing crystals, and the coffee filters i use tend to get clogged easy and take forever to fully drain through. Plus, there were more crystals stuck to the glass than there were free-floating, so I just sucked up the remaining solvent, including any free floating crystals, and transferred them with the solvent. They will come out eventually, either through freeze precip or final evap.

When I could not pull off anymore naphtha, I picked up the dish, leaving the plastic wrap behind so it doesn't get in the way, and tilted the dish so any remaining solvent was pooled in one corner. There wasn't enough to suck up, but there was still some visible solvent there, so I put that corner of the dish over the jar, and tilted it quickly to let the last couple drops pour off. I say quickly, because if you do it too slow, then the solvent will drip down the outside of the pyrex dish instead of falling into the second jar. I then set the dishes face down in the freezer, on top of the plastic wrap, to drip while I went upstairs and got the fan/table ready. I don't think it is necessary to place them down on top of the plastic wrap, but I do it just to make sure that nothing important drips off. If I was using the dishes with lids, then the lid would replace the plastic wrap and catch anything that drips off. If using the lids, DO NOT tip the dish back over when you take the dish out of the freezer or any solvent on the lid will go back into the crystals.

With the solvent I had left over in the jar from both the dishes:

I separated into two more dishes, four total. I did this in an attempt to freeze precipitate out as much as I can before I re-use the solvent. I separated into four dishes so that there is less volume per dish, which will hopefully cause more DMT to fall out as it gets cold again, although this may not yield any more crystals than were already precipitated out of the larger volume, as I did not let it get warm first. I just separated into multiple dishes with lids (from the previous post) and put it right back where it was. I'll check it again tomorrow.

What I did with the dishes:

I placed them in between two books on the table, so they would stand up on their side, and then placed a fan on high blowing directly into them. They will condensate, so every 5 minutes or so, I flip them over to a new side and let the fan dry all the drops. With these particular dishes, they are "heavy" so I used textbooks and put some weighted objects on them to prevent the dish from sliding. (I used a railroad spike on one side and a tape measure on the other) For this picture, and for drying both at the same time, I have arranged the dishes to sit on top of each other, but when I originally was drying them, I just pulled one out of the freezer at a time and dried them separately.

(Window was originally open)

I have not recrystallized yet.

First pull: there does appear some minor oil/goo in between the crystals, but not much.

Second pull:

Kinda white

Some goo from second pull:

Side by side:

Desal.. What was the amount of your raw material? That looks like a lot of final product!

 

[desal]

75g mimosa, all that scraped up, 1.6g after recrystallizing one time I ended up with about 1gram of x-tals and some goo. Although, during my second re-x, i had a shotglass break, and I know i lost some product there.

 

[Winemaker]

Dang

Maybe because of the contrast in colours and the wide tray it looks like more than that, idk. Good job though. Nice stuff.

 

[Winemaker]

Desal's post about Pyrex dishes. Pretty much. SWIM's got one of those smaller round ones and yeah works really well for the freeze precip. A little hard to scrape though, unless you get thin, bendy razor blades.