downwardsfromzero
Boundary condition
You can cook it if you want, or you can let it soak for longer with the lye, which also helps to break down the plant material without the energy expenditure.
downwardsfromzero said:You can cook it if you want, or you can let it soak for longer with the lye, which also helps to break down the plant material without the energy expenditure.
I'd hope they'd be issued with a brain before being allowed into a kitchen, but I guess you never can tell.Voidmatrix said:downwardsfromzero said:You can cook it if you want, or you can let it soak for longer with the lye, which also helps to break down the plant material without the energy expenditure.
Do you think they would need more water as well?
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downwardsfromzero said:You can cook it if you want, or you can let it soak for longer with the lye, which also helps to break down the plant material without the energy expenditure.
Cheelin said:Question for veterans of this tek, particularly wrt to the minimum polymer discussion (which i see as another iteration of Max Ion), here: Minimum Polymer - A/B - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus
When collecting the pulls, Max Ion says to let first pull cool to room temp, then move to fridge and store there until all pulls have been collected. Since 6 pulls could take several hours, wouldn’t it be useful to keep the pulls at room temp or warmer until all pulls have been collected?
As I understand crystallization, the extraction solution is collected with above ambient heat to get closer to ‘super-saturation’ then cooled below ambient to reduce solubility, which aids crystallization. Is there any foreseeable problem delaying the slow cooling (to minimize polymerization, to avoid goo) and subsequent ‘super cooling’ (to force crystallization), until after all pulls have been collected?
Guess i’ll find out.
Here’s the first plan:
- Follow tek through basing
- Follow ronsonol dosing
- Store pulls, while collecting, in sous vide controlled 50c water bath
- No solvent evaporation
- Cool combined pulls to ambient
- Cool further till stable temp in fridge
- Finish in freezer per tek.
Cheelin said:Question for veterans of this tek, particularly wrt to the minimum polymer discussion (which i see as another iteration of Max Ion), here: Minimum Polymer - A/B - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus
When collecting the pulls, Max Ion says to let first pull cool to room temp, then move to fridge and store there until all pulls have been collected. Since 6 pulls could take several hours, wouldn’t it be useful to keep the pulls at room temp or warmer until all pulls have been collected?
As I understand crystallization, the extraction solution is collected with above ambient heat to get closer to ‘super-saturation’ then cooled below ambient to reduce solubility, which aids crystallization. Is there any foreseeable problem delaying the slow cooling (to minimize polymerization, to avoid goo) and subsequent ‘super cooling’ (to force crystallization), until after all pulls have been collected?
Guess i’ll find out.
Here’s the first plan:
- Follow tek through basing
- Follow ronsonol dosing
- Store pulls, while collecting, in sous vide controlled 50c water bath
- No solvent evaporation
- Cool combined pulls to ambient
- Cool further till stable temp in fridge
- Finish in freezer per tek.
Later 2/28: Started earlier w 50g mhrb powder and a 1 qt mason jar. After 3 freeze/thaw cycles, and a 19hr acid soak, I salinated and based per the tek. Heated ronsonol using jar-in-sieve setup in boiling water; cooled acid-powder to ambient; did six 50mL pulls, with four 20-sec bicycle peddle shakes over 45 mins per pull (heated solvent seemed a waste of time, given the volume differences, next time just gonna leave jar in 50C bath; 4 pulls in 45 minutes doesn’t fully clear after each shake, so I switched to three 6-7 minute rests then a long final rest for max solvent recovery per pull, still only recovered 230 of 300mL added). After each pull, pulled solvent was combined in a jar warming at 50C. No evaporation step. After all pulls, the crystal clear, but ever so slightly yellow-tinged solution was emptied into 9”x9” pyrex baking dish & covered w plastic wrap and then tin foil, allowed to reach ambient temp (~1hr), then put in 38F fridge (~1.5hrs). Moved to freezer and will leave in for 12-18 hrs. Update sometime tomorrow.
3/1: I let it crystallize for 24hrs; pics at 12, 18, 24 hrs are crappy, but clear enough to see not much change over those periods. Very white and sparkly results, a couple small patches of yellow oil (see “Dried” pic) which I attribute to contamination (imo: the slight yellow tinge mentioned above reaggregated, from a couple of miniscule drops of the black-red-yellow tar that had dissolved/dispersed in the pulled solvent). Notice this contamination in the “Scraped” pic.
Yield only 1%. My excuses: 1st DMT run ever/learning curve; not sure what typical yield is from the powder I have; fresh/unloaded solvent; perhaps the changes to tek reduced yield.
My focus with this run was to maximize white crystal quality, which I did for the most part. Future runs will work on completely eliminating contamination, using a better-suited container and better solvent removal. I’ll also focus on improving yields, and testing some ideas I have to improve the maceration, acidification, salination, and pulling processes.
This is a great tek, CYB; which along with ideas generated in Loveall et al’s Minimum Polymer thread/tek can improve crystallization quality and consistency. I hope we can also find ways to reduce elapsed time considerably.
Thanks All!
Cheelin said:I sincerely appreciate your response, particularly the change in tone.
I am very certain that this generous and helpful explanation will be useful to me and others in the future.
I admire simplicity, which I jokingly refer to as laziness. So, with all due respect, for now, I’ll stick with not sucking up visible drops of tar, and see how that goes, vs adding rework to achieve non-visible purity. It is a personal goal of mine to show others that high purity and reasonable yield can be achieved, with minimal effort, by non-chemists.
As you may have noticed, some of your contribution on Loveall’s Minimum Polymer thread has been incorporated into my work here, to avoid discoloration due to polymorphs. Thank you for that, as well.
fink said:As a curiosity, an idea of filtered water was to pour tap water through some coffee filters. Is that good enough?