Discussion on Visuals, Increasing them, Effects of MAOI, and other Spice Additives

[gibran2]

To add further confusion: harmine and harmaline sublingually slow down the experience but don’t effect the visuals, and THH (or whatever it is I’ve been taking that’s labeled THH ) intensifies the visuals but doesn’t seem to slow down the experience at all.

What do you mean when you say harmine slows down the experience? Also, does anyone know why it's so important to take the RIMA's sublingually? Why not orally? Thanks.

It literally slows down the experience – the rate at which things move and morph is slower. Sometimes straight spice can be very fast – everything moving about quickly; hard to focus on anything because of the rapid movement. Harmine, caapi copy, etc. slows it all down to a more comfortable pace.

 

[polytrip]

To add further confusion: harmine and harmaline sublingually slow down the experience but don’t effect the visuals, and THH (or whatever it is I’ve been taking that’s labeled THH ) intensifies the visuals but doesn’t seem to slow down the experience at all.

What do you mean when you say harmine slows down the experience? Also, does anyone know why it's so important to take the RIMA's sublingually? Why not orally? Thanks.

It literally slows down the experience – the rate at which things move and morph is slower. Sometimes straight spice can be very fast – everything moving about quickly; hard to focus on anything because of the rapid movement. Harmine, caapi copy, etc. slows it all down to a more comfortable pace.

Yeah, i find that the qualitative effect, harmala's have one visuals is clearly there, but the amount of visuals is relatively unchanged, even by realy large amounts of harmala's.

 

[Apoc]

Well, I finally did my experiment. I took a big dose of harmine + thh and tried smoking. I took enough harmine to get significant effects by itself. However, it didn't seem to affect the smoked trip at all. Maybe there was a longer come down, but the peak itself didn't seem any different, I don't think. Hard to say.... I'm not even "myself" when I'm in there, and comprehensive language to describe the experience is always difficult anyway, so ..... I don't know. It is possible that I required less vapor to get an effect. I'm not sure of that either. However, I am pretty sure that the trip did not last longer than no harmalas. That's what I was hoping for. I was hoping for a peak that would last like 20 minutes or something, but no, it was just as quick as always. I thought the maoi would keep the dmt acting in the brain longer, but I guess not.

The after effects did seem a bit different. The after effects kind of felt like ayahuasca, with a body load and I went through some heavy vertigo and disorientation for just a few minutes, but not nearly as long as ayahuasca. In conclusion, I probably won't bother with harmalas if I am smoking because they don't seem to affect the trip much.

 

[vovin]

Both with and without is the same but in a diffrent manner. The intensity is just as strong but the experience itself is very much diffrent. Usually what i do is I presmoke a bowl of caapi leaves and then load dmt laced caapi and smoke that. Extends the tip to double and there is also a considerable comming down period. There are also other variables such as nootropics that can considerably intensify the experience. One in particular adds another dimension to the other dimension.

There are many diffrent tactics other than other drugs however to increase a dmt experience.

 

[Pancho]

Hello.
Im using recently a "Passiflora" excract from alternative drugstore (homeopatic). It supose has a MAOI or someting... I hearded it once, and, at least in my land Chile, they say it helps sleeping and sometimes is receted for depresion.
Im taking all the diary dose at oce before going sleep. My motivation was increase dreaming caracteristics and my dreaming skills.
It worked, just amazing, and I feels diferences at day.
...BUT... At the moment of smoking I have noted decreased efects.
I just thought that it wsa because my old DMT. I have it since one year ago and It have lost its white and turned a little bit pink-orange, maybe a % oxidized.
But now I read it... It changed my mind.

I hope my xperience helps someone.