DMT and suicide

[dragonrider]

I have to disagree regarding porn not being an issue - I'm talking from a purely individual physiological health perspective, and not the morality or ethics behind pornography.

The way that guy described his usage indicates he has a problem with it, an obsession even. Using it an unhealthy amount causes issues for men, that's well established, especially digital based pornography. There's something about screens I think that messes with us neurologically when engaging with that one handed hobby.

Anyway, the point was that that guy in the video is not someone you want to be taking life (or death) advice from. Someone else already raised their concerns about him in this thread, in that the guy is a narcissistic loon who's disappeared up his own cosmic cornhole. I mean honestly, just taking 5meo that many times is a huge flag on its own, let alone all the other crap he apparently talked about in the video.

I didn't watch that particular video.

The first few minutes of the first video was more than enough of that guy, for me.

I wanted to say that there's something about this guy that rubs me the wrong way, but apparently he does that to himself as well.

 

[Bill Cipher]

I believe that u don't help. And who are u to say if some people here are helping. They are. There are some pretty good and solid comments here. If u doesn't to read it, just don't come here.

I didn’t say they didn’t help. I said many people are trying to help. I meant it as they are doing their best to help. It might be a language problem if you understood it otherwise.

You don’t need to defend them because I didn’t criticize anyone who is trying to help you.

What I wrote was the fact that you are not answering certain questions that could improve the understanding of what you are dealing with. Knowing more about it could improve the efficiency of helping you.

Your reaction is also described in the book I linked.

Anonymous2 - I really think that you should respectfully back off. The OP has already indicated that your input isn't helpful or appreciated. Just excuse yourself from the conversation.

 

[dragonrider]

Clop, i'm sorry for some of the off-topic comments in this thread.

I think it is good that we're having this discussion and that you are sharing your thoughts with us. Don't let mine or other people's off-topic comments distract or discourage you to keep doing that.

Suicide is an irreversible decision. We, (because i am pretty sure i can say this on behalf of many other people here as well) would not want you to take such a drastic step, as long as you haven't realy explored all the other options. You don't want to spent the last seconds of your life regretting that you made the wrong choice.

 

[null24]

Hey clop, i feel pretty dumb, being one of those that didn't understand your OP. I was operating an the assumption that you had engaged with a psychedelic and it messed you up.

I was not familiar with leo gupta until yesterday, when the podcast linked here fell into my feed. There discussion is regarding the irresponsible nature of leo's practice and directly confronts some of the things that caused these thoughts.

Ugh, it makes me even angrier at these self-appointed, self-aggrandizing gurus that you got a head full of his (sorry, y'all) bullshit, and almost hurt yourself because of it. He needs to be held accountable, just like any number of fools in our midst.

The psychedelics community is failing miserably in the self-policing category if you ask me.

Take a listen, i can't speak to anything about the guys who are talking, but they seem pretty on point with this, although they clearly are very much bought into a Gaia-TV, new-age 'woke' version of psyychedelia, which is another matter entirely.

Psychedelics are quite the hip fad right now, and alot (all) of these concepts floating around, from ayahuasca being traditionally used for spiritual healing visionary sessions by anyone other than the medicine person themselves to the dangerously evolved weaponized hippie rainbow child rhetoric spewn out by people like this leo guy.

Oh man, i could rant forever. That you even have these questions is a huge failure of harm reduction in the community. For every idiot like leo, there should be a rational counterpoint. There aren't a lot of resources for those trying to learn about psyychedelics (save this forum and a couple others) free from someone's psuedo-religious views, or misinformation peddled by entertainers.

We obviously missed each other in chat, what was that, last weekend? It's Saturday now, I'll take you up on that offer put forth a few posts in just a bit here....

Be good to to, glad to see your still out there resisting.

EDIT: OOPS, here is that video podcast on leo

EDIT 2, plus this leo guy was not talking about n,n DMT. He is promoting a 30-day 5meo DMT thing, with increasing doses daily. That makes it exponentially worse.

 

[null24]

I tried sending you a PM couple times,clop, have you been able to access?