DMT as first ever trip experience

[jamie]

I dunno where you are getting your mushrooms, but 7 grams of any decent mushrooms and I will be on the ground completely absorbed in visions of spirits and entities. Ive taken mushrooms prob 200+ times in all kinds of situations, and it basicaly requires the same set and setting as ayahuasca. Ive drank ayahuasca many many times as well and its not like its way more visionary than mushrooms. I have brocken through with mushrooms at high doses to the same spaces DMT takes me to, and visited other planets.

DMT is also actaully good in groups of people if you have the right people to smoke with. Of course any of these entheogens is going to be useful in groups if you have the right people and setting, Ive done ceremonies with mushrooms with up to 20 people at least...and yeah, mushrooms for me go WAYYYY beyond anything LSD threw at me..mushrooms are basically oral DMT, LSD is a lygeric, totally diff things.

 

[Ayawasqero]

Hello,

So heres my dilemma: I've been extremely interested in exploring the hallucinogenic realm for a few years now. When I was younger, I tried mushrooms a few times, but never really got anything out of them. At most, all I experienced was a slight "breathing" when looking at trees, grass, ect. After my failed 3rd attempt, I just kind of gave up. It was a few years ago that i had heard about DMT, and have since done as much reading and research as possible. I consider myself pretty knowledgeable when it comes to what to expect from things like LSD, mushrooms, and DMT. But again, I've never really had a "psychedelic" experience. My ultimate goal this summer was to finally have one of those experiences. I especially wanted to get a few mushroom trips under my belt before I made the huge leap to DMT. And considering the scarcity of DMT, I figured this would be a more likely situation.

Oddly enough, the mushrooms have been difficult to find lately, but SWIM has procured some spice. Now, from everything I've read, DMT is beyond anything you will experience on LSD or mushrooms. Even seasoned explorers have raved about how much more intense a DMT trip is compared to other substances. I'm very aware of what I might be in store for, but I'm just wondering if this a very foolish idea on my part. I consider myself to be fairly comfortable with who I am, and also consider myself pretty mentally solid.

I've been trying to find some trip reports of people who have smoked DMT as their first hallucinogenic experience. Needless to say, I haven't found any yet.

I feel that I am as prepared as I can possibly be. The thought of doing DMT made me nervous in the beginning, seeing as how I have little to no experience in this realm. But since the opportunity presented itself, I feel like i'm as ready as I'll ever be.

Am I making a huge mistake? Does anyone have any reference material for this sort of situation? Advice?

A lot of different approaches. I advocate the ,THC theory´. That is to say, wo/man - as the DMT is the most democratic of the drugs, intoxicatig both women and men - must smoke his way up to the DMT over the marijuana, the 1st psychoactive precursor for smokable DMT. Am I right?

 

[Fakkz]

DMT was my first "drug". The first couple of attempts were failures (no scales, cherry lungs and terrible technique), and even when I got all that sorted I didn't breakthrough for about two dozen journeys, no matter the dose.

I was very nervous the first time, as I had been doing a bit of research (this was before I found the nexus unfortunately, it has made everything so much easier) but still didn't really know what to expect. All I really got was a bit of bodyload, a bit unsettled and the feeling that "something" was gonna happen. Not much did.

I say DMT is a fine place to start, if you have done a bit of research. Really low doses (under 20mg) I won't recommend, for me they are a waste. No visuals, not much going on mentally, but you still get the bodyload. They can make me very uncomfortable, like something is not quite "right", somethings missing. If you want to start low, go for 20-25mg. This should give full on visuals and euphoria, but leave your ego intact and keep you rooted in reality.

A full dose of 40-50mg is like nothing else. My first breakthrough I could not have been more astonished if a UFO had crashed into my neighbors house, and I am being 100% serious.

 

[buk]

I dont personally think you can really compare the two things, shrooms and acid are more of a drug and have quite an entertainment element to them. spice is something else and I think you'll have your own opinion of what that is fairly soon. Mushrooms could prepare you for spice however, it might make it slightly easier to comprehend. I dont think you would have any problems with spice go for it!

I respectfully disagree. High doses of mushroom can give you breakthroughs very similar in nature to DMT. LSD can not, but it is an incredible tool for self-development. All three are drugs with potential to be used as well as abused.

Yeah I guess your right, I have only been very deep on a high dose of mushrooms once, years ago but I couldnt remember very much of it and I have only smoked spice a couple of times, I'm only really judging it on a medium shroom dose. Also I didnt really mean about abuse just that shrooms has a certain entertainment value to it not necessarily in a bad way its just a part of it for me. I see spice in a very different way, maybe its just me though

 

[roots08]

Tried 15mg last night. No effects effects except a slight body buzz. Gonna have to find some more and just go for the full 30-40mg dose. No more messing around :twisted:

 

[mumbles]

DMT is in my opinion much more confronting than mushrooms. You dont have 30mins to adjust to your new mindset, if smoked you have approx 15 seconds. A low dose mushrooms with a good group and setting will make DMT use a lot easier. You just need to get comfortable and confident and mushrooms are great teachers as long as you measure out a dose and don't just guess because guessing leads to problems.

 

[obliguhl]

Tried 15mg last night. No effects effects except a slight body buzz. Gonna have to find some more and just go for the full 30-40mg dose. No more messing around :twisted:

how did you smoke it and are you sure you got all in? a slight body buzz is not much if you vaporized everything in one hit.

 

[roots08]

It's very possible I did not vaporize it all correctly. I used the light bulb vape method, seeing as how I didnt have a spoon pipe or anything resembling a dmt pipe. Nor can I really afford to purchase such equipment at this time. Loaded up the bulb with the 15mg and held the lighter underneath to heat it up. I was careful to keep the flame away from the bulb so as not to burn the spice, used a circular motion to distribute the heat equally. I think I could have been more careful during the heating. I noticed that once it started warming up, it got hot real quick and the dmt started popping, spraying the spice all over the sides of the bulb. I realize this probably isn't the most effective way to vaporize the dmt, so next time i'll probably load up 40-50mg so as to at least get a 30-40mg dose. Seems like a waste, but I just can't afford a proper vape and/or dmt pipe. Any other advice using the light bulb method?

 

[gammagore]

roots08, check this link FAQ - DMT Frequently Asked Questions and Troubleshooting Guide - DMT-Nexus Wiki

 

[roots08]

DAMNIT!! Wish I would have read that before I decided to use the light bulb method. Well I guess I'll just have to throw down on a decent pipe if i'm going to get this to work properly.

Thanks to all of you for your advice over the past few days! I'll let you know how the next session goes and HOPEFULLY i'll get it right next time!