DMT First time - Only buzz?

[TheRawringDinosaur]

Hey, So I did a self extract (q21) it looks pretty good, all fluffy white.
I didn't have a mg scale but I read that 20-50mg is like the size of a BB.
I took a very small amount and put it in a 2-liter with a foil bottom- Nothing happened, I just got tiny buzz.
Then I tried that method again today, nothing. I went and got my pipe put down a layer of ash, then some dragon missile trypamine, I Vaped that and the same thing happened. So tonight I packed it the same way but with a Key bump or what looked like a lot and I only ended up with stronger buzz and a heady high feeling.

Am I just immune? Not enough spice? or it's not potent? I didn't let the flame touch the crystals, and I also got that great burnt plastic taste.
And held it til 20.

I take lamictal and I take Vyvanse/the days I werk. (interfere?)

..maybe I'll just have to try some boomers instead? I was pretty fucking excited about experiencing this extraterrestrial wonder-drug though :?

Any input?

Thanks
Peace

 

[Electric Kool-Aid]

Vape method has a lot to do with it. But also size. The size of a BB is too little. That is like maybe 5mg at the most.
But the best way to know is invest in a small mg scale from ebay or amazon. They are so cheap. Mine was $9! Free shipping.
Took about a week to arrive.

 

[anrchy]

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[3rdI]

Burnt plastic doesn't taste great. It does mean you burnt your DMT.

Do some research on smoking devices and technique.

 

[TheRawringDinosaur]

Alright I thought I was smoking a big amount :O but I'll just up it. Last time the walls were breathing a bit. And some parts of the music I had playing seemed to like jump out :d

But, Can you just vape the spice in a regular mj pipe without other leaf on top? Just melting it and inhaling slowly? Or how much leaf do you need to have on top? I just had a tiny layer cause I don't feel like smoke oregano uhh.

 

[Eliyahu]

i would recommend NOT upping your dose. I would work on your smoking technique first

would highly recommend getting a glass vapor genie or use what I use ...see below

 

[Eliyahu]

Please take some time to look at this thread...

am I immune?

 

[Electric Kool-Aid]

Alright I thought I was smoking a big amount :O but I'll just up it. Last time the walls were breathing a bit. And some parts of the music I had playing seemed to like jump out :d

But, Can you just vape the spice in a regular mj pipe without other leaf on top? Just melting it and inhaling slowly? Or how much leaf do you need to have on top? I just had a tiny layer cause I don't feel like smoke oregano uhh.

People put leaf on top because it lights the spice slowly. If you can pre-melt the spice on the leaf, then slowly heat the leaf it might work. The other thing is get some fresh mint leaves from the supermarket and dry it. They dry pretty quickly. Mint is supposed to be soothing on the throat. Another one is ash. People make a sandwich with ash.
Or... Make the machine!

 

[universecannon]

Don't use the crack pipe eliyahu posted. It's harsh and inefficient , especially if your not used to it already. There are way better devices out there, such as a vapor genie. Even a bowl or bong works good- but for those I would use changa. Changa overall is just more practical to use and a deeper experience

 

[Parshvik Chintan]

Changa overall is just more practical to use

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if you don't want the harmala experience, you can make enhanced herb and even sandwich that.

 

[Cosmic_Reality]

Please be careful, Id advise you to use a scale, they have some nice ones fir like $25 off of Amazon. You really want to make sure your dosages are measured correctly. It seams that by passing the scale leads to undesirable trips.

 

[murphythecat]

make infuse leaf with dmt. that way you know for sure how much you dose and you can be sure to not burn the dmt that way.

 

[TheRawringDinosaur]

That, was the most amazing thing ever. and I didn't even touch it. First off I totally roasted it wrong before. I just melted it and never vaped it. I couldn't tell before because it was such a small amount. This time I used like a good keybump (how much do you think that is? or at least from the experience I got?), I let the smoke build up and took a small drag, didn't feel too much. I waited like 20 seconds then inhaled the rest of it and 5 seconds later I exhaled because I forgot where I was and it was just amazing . I didn't have any 'potent visuals like colours or kaleidoscope patterns, but I was definitely floating in my consciousness. I won't say too much more, but I understand why you need to start off low, and how it's a totally new 'Experience which is about all you can really say.
But Now my question is, If that was a fair amount 15-20mg maybe(?) how safe is it, and how often can you attempt it again? I will probably try the same amount but just take it in one hit and hold it in :0
I really want to give it another go, I probably not twice in the same day but is it alright with this amount to do it?, or just one (day) after another? Will it dent/dull the experiences?

Muchas gracias

 

[anrchy]

Key bump? Not familiar with that terminology. Get a scale, from your experience you either smoked 10-15 mg or you only got that much and burnt the rest. Also if you had no visuals, you just got a very small glimpse of what's in store for you =)

Are you still using the foil bottle thing? If so and you are heating up the puddle without sucking you are definitely burning. No biggie just look at it this way, when air passes over it, it draws the vapor off the surface and vaporizes much better. If you sit there and cook it letting the vapor build that's bad.

I def recommend a different device as that's prolly the most wasteful and unhealthy ways to do it

Also Dmt has no tolerance build up. I dont recommend doing it everyday, but I have mostly dosed twice in a row almost every time I've done it.

 

[TheRawringDinosaur]

Also, every time you do a pull on the extraction, are you supposed to add more base to make the consistency right again before you do the pull? Mmmmmmmm ok thanks

 

[TheRawringDinosaur]

Awesome thanks. I just watched a vid on youtube and the guy made it convincing... he said it's like breakthrough in one hit from that for him.
Yea I just let it build up. You think that burns it??? and how is it more wasteful :/ ?

 

[The Observer]

Some evenings I've gone on 3 or 4 journeys, spaced 45 to an hour apart.....30mg each..........vap, GVG........

Nothing wrong with doing that IMHO..................

 

[anrchy]

Awesome thanks. I just watched a vid on youtube and the guy made it convincing... he said it's like breakthrough in one hit from that for him.
Yea I just let it build up. You think that burns it??? and how is it more wasteful :/ ?

It's kind of like holding a torch on your bowl of weed without sucking. Your burning the weed up and not getting anything, then once you start sucking your only gonna get smoke from the parts you haven't burnt.

When you pass air over the heated up dmt it lifts the vapors up and out. As doin as you see vapor start to come off you start sucking and you will see a lot more vapor coming out of the puddle than if you were sit there and boil it. The temp at which it starts to burn is not far from Vape temp you need to be more gentle with heat not rough.

There is no doubt about it, any nexian will agree with me. If you are holding heat under it until the vapors fill up your chamber at all you are burning mass amounts of spice.

Do you smoke weed? If you do, and you don't have the money for a gvg try placing a small pile of dmt onto a bed of MJ and then covering the dmt with more MJ. Don't torch it be gentle.

 

[TheRawringDinosaur]

Yea I live in a weed scarce area, oregano and that stuff is nastyyy. Also I tried that (not with much spice) but it didn't really work. How long does it take the start vaping it when it's in a pipe?