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MissDMT

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Hi all,

Wondering how can I remember my dmt trips in more details ??? I have so much happening when I breakthrough and at the time of the trip it looks so clear, every detail I can take in but as soon as I stop tripping I only remember parts of it and not clear.

Why is this?
 
Remembering is complex. Do you exercise regularly? Do you smoke weed regularly or while on DMT (also using any other drugs? ) do you meditate maybe?

Are you using DMT when you are fully conscious or after a good days work?
 
Yes I exercise regularly, I don't smoke weed and only other drug I do is ice.

I want to learn to meditate
 
The N-methyl-alpha-methyl-phenethylamine you admit to using is terrible on memory*, and so is sleep deprivation.

*N-methyl-alpha-methyl-phenethylamine is a dopamine releasing agent as well as a dopamine reuptake inhibitor, free floating dopamine in the synapse has potential to damage the neuron:
Through a wide number of animal studies, METH has been found to have neurotoxic effects on both the dopaminergic and serotonergic transmitter systems, with the potential of damaging nerve terminals and neuron cell bodies (Cho & Melega, 2002).
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Back to DMT, you must create models and metaphors which are "close enough", as these experiences do not translate well into the coding of human language. Store the models and metaphors as memory related to your experience.

Time helps most, play the memory over and over in your mind over the years, each time try to build a new linguistic model for the experiance you are trying to code into language and memory.

Being monkeys, when we encounter a translinguistic object, a kind of cognitive dissonance is set up in our hindbrain. We try to pour language over it and it sheds it like water off a duck's back. We try again and fail again, and this cognitive dissonance, this "wow" or "flutter" that is building off this object causes wonder, astonishment, and awe at the brink of terror. -terence McKenna
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-eg
 
"If you find it difficult to remember dreams, it can be helpful, throughout the
day and particularly before sleep, to generate a strong intention to remember
dreams. You can also record dreams in a notepad or with a tape recorder, as this
will reinforce the habit of treating your dreams as something valuable. The very
act of preparing the notebook or recorder at night serves to support the intention
to recall the dream upon waking. It is not difficult for anyone to remember
dreams once the intention to do so is generated and sustained, even over just a
few days."

This works with dreams..
Maybe it works here too, i will try it myself.. :)
 
Sakkadelic said:
"If you find it difficult to remember dreams, it can be helpful, throughout the
day and particularly before sleep, to generate a strong intention to remember
dreams. You can also record dreams in a notepad or with a tape recorder, as this
will reinforce the habit of treating your dreams as something valuable. The very
act of preparing the notebook or recorder at night serves to support the intention
to recall the dream upon waking. It is not difficult for anyone to remember
dreams once the intention to do so is generated and sustained, even over just a
few days."

This works with dreams..
Maybe it works here too, i will try it myself.. :)
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Interesting idea.

Does anybody know the reason why dreams fade from our memory so quickly?
...Specially as opposed to the memories formed in waking consciousness?

I was going to say, dreams translate quite well into language and thus should translate into memory quite efficiently, thus making the experience of remembering dreams a different feat then remembering the DMT experience...

...but then I began to recall the strange nature of our memory in regards to dreams.

Though if your recording these dreams on a tape or in a notebook, then is it really helping with memory?

...Or do the recordings/notes stimulate memory recall which you think may be potentially beneficial?

-eg
 
entheogenic-gnosis said:
Though if your recording these dreams on a tape or in a notebook, then is it really helping with memory?

...Or do the recordings/notes stimulate memory recall which you think may be potentially beneficial?

-eg
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If i understand you right then the second one, the idea is to ask your brain to recall the dreams(DMT experience), since the mechanism of forgetting/remembering is not easily controled by us(like heart beat) then a good way to achieve it is to ask your mind for it, this asking worked for me in so many cases like reducing nausea, stopping a purge, headaches... i believe in this strongly.

For me forgetting my dreams is very similar to forgetting my dmt experiences, dreams are harder to recall they are either their or not in case of dmt i can at any moment remember parts of the experience

I tried this method once and it worked very well from the first time, i tried it only once and it worked
 
Sakkadelic said:
entheogenic-gnosis said:
Though if your recording these dreams on a tape or in a notebook, then is it really helping with memory?

...Or do the recordings/notes stimulate memory recall which you think may be potentially beneficial?

-eg
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If i understand you right then the second one, the idea is to ask your brain to recall the dreams(DMT experience), since the mechanism of forgetting/remembering is not easily controled by us(like heart beat) then a good way to achieve it is to ask your mind for it, this asking worked for me in so many cases like reducing nausea, stopping a purge, headaches... i believe in this strongly.

For me forgetting my dreams is very similar to forgetting my dmt experiences, dreams are harder to recall they are either their or not in case of dmt i can at any moment remember parts of the experience

I tried this method once and it worked very well from the first time, i tried it only once and it worked
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Ok, I think I understand now.

Again, interesting idea, it would be fascinating to see if this method of dream recall would be useful in recall of experiences like the DMT flash.

-eg
 
Uchu Sanango (Tabernaemontana Sananho) is known to be used both in dieta and as admixture to ayahuasca as a memory enhancer......

Perhaps you could take some before administering the spice, or if you're serious about this, mix it into a caapi brew and drink it before the spice.
 
maranello551 said:
Uchu Sanango (Tabernaemontana Sananho) is known to be used both in dieta and as admixture to ayahuasca as a memory enhancer......

Perhaps you could take some before administering the spice, or if you're serious about this, mix it into a caapi brew and drink it before the spice.
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Tabernaemontana sananho Ruiz & Pav.

Apparently added to ayahuasca (bark? root? Citation needed)

It is used as eyedrops by the Kaxinawa, using the juice (acqueous extraction? Squeezed 'resin'?) of the root and trunk scrapes, for the purpose of improving luck and concentration when hunting. Also when being stung by "tocandira" and stingray, topically applied. Also the latex from the bark is used for tooth ache, topically applied with some cloth, until the tooth falls out. (Ika Muru, 2014)

Much as T. rimulosa. The leaves, softened by fire, are applied to relieve rheumatic pains. In Pastaza, taken one week after delivery. "Pulp is used as a gargle for sore throat and colds". "Tikuna" mix the latex with water for eye wounds . "Jivaro" apply the bark juice to toothache. Considered sudorific, tonic, used for colds, obesity, rheumatism, syphilis. (Amazonian Ethnobotanical Dictionary)

Colombia: A mixture of latex and water can be used to cure eye wounds [375]. (Van Beek et al 1984)

Peru: In the upper part of the Amazon the plant has long been considereda panacea, the name sanango signifies a more or less all-purpose medicinal plant. In the Leticia area it is employed as a febrifuge, emetic, diuretic, calmative and for various minor ailments. A tepid decoction of the leaves and bark is used to wash wounds and afterwards powdered bark is put
over the wound; this is repeated three times a day for 10 days. A water extract of the root is drunk three times a day during 15 days against rheumatism and for wounds [ 375]. (Van Beek et al 1984)

Peru, Brazil: An infusion of the roots is used against rheumatic pains
[376]. (Van Beek et al 1984)


Alkaloid content: Coronaridine, Heyneanine, 3-Hydroxycoronaridine, Ibogamine and Voacangine (Van Beek et al 1984)
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Above it said citation was needed for the ayahuasca admixture piece, and I've begun doing some hobby research in this area, if you have a good source for this, if it's not too much trouble, could you provide it? I have been having a difficult time finding much, but perhaps I'm not searching efficiently enough...

This came up in this thread as well, Tabernaemontana Sananho (Uchu/Shiric Sanango) VS Tabernaemontana Undulata (Sananga) - FAQ - All your basic questions and answers - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus and even though this thread ( Tabernaemontana sananho / undulata / spp. Workspace - Collaborative Research Project - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus ) covers a ton of information, I don't recall seeing the ayahuasca admixture issue.

In this erowid report An Experience with Mimosa hostilis, Syrian Rue, and Voacanga africana is detailed, chemically this would be pretty clpse to mixing Tabernaemontana Sananho With ayahuasca...

As far as memory enhancement, it's interesting, and I want to look into that as well, not just for enhancing memory of Entheogenic ventures, but on its own as a nootropic.

Voacanga agricana seeds contain: voacangine, voacamine, akuammidine, tabersonine, amataine, coronaridine, etc...

And have been used as an intoxicant, a stimulant, and there are even claims of psychedelic properties at high dose, though from browsing through the erowid experience vaults it appears that for the most part they are stimulant similar to caffeine in low and threshold dose, and that in higher doses it appears to induce psychedelic type features.

I've always wondered if Tabernaemontana spp. Or Voacanga africana seeds could be used to alleviate opioid withdrawal symptoms in the same manner is ibogaine...I've seen excerpts here and there suggesting that this may be the case:
18-methoxycoronaridine (18-MC), which seems to be effective in treating
addiction in rats, contains the same ester group which distinguishes
voacangine from ibogaine, so it is possible that voacangine may be
effective by itself for addiction treatment, but if it comprises only 20%
of voacanga PTA HCl, side effects from the large amount of other alkaloids
may be expected and seem to have been reported by those who tried large
amounts of the bark. https://www.anoniem.org/?http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/2010-January/043613.html
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So naturally all of these iboga alkaloid containing plants are a focus of some minor hobby research for the moment...

-eg
 
MissDMT said:
Hi all,

Wondering how can I remember my dmt trips in more details ??? I have so much happening when I breakthrough and at the time of the trip it looks so clear, every detail I can take in but as soon as I stop tripping I only remember parts of it and not clear.

Why is this?
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For me - music.

My deepest, most intense experiences with DMT have usually always been with some lighter music in the background. Not sure what type of music you're into, but for me I would usually put something on that's melodic [electronica], instrumental, or a combination of the two, and if there's any form of vocals I only like that aspect to be few and far between, preferably female vocals. [a female voice can be an incredibly powerful agent of Hyperspace]

I can usually remember pretty vividly many aspects of the experience that way. Picking the proper song can be a really intense ingredient for the DMT experience ,aside from being a sort of acoustical driving for the experience there's something music does for me that in terms of remembering.

For instance there's one song in particular that I played some years back with a very powerful experience I had, and to this day if I listen to that song I can recall bits and pieces in fairly reasonable detail.
 
Sakkadelic said:
"If you find it difficult to remember dreams, it can be helpful, throughout the
day and particularly before sleep, to generate a strong intention to remember
dreams. You can also record dreams in a notepad or with a tape recorder, as this
will reinforce the habit of treating your dreams as something valuable. The very
act of preparing the notebook or recorder at night serves to support the intention
to recall the dream upon waking. It is not difficult for anyone to remember
dreams once the intention to do so is generated and sustained, even over just a
few days."

This works with dreams..
Maybe it works here too, i will try it myself.. :)
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I dream every night, I always remember my dreams. I have always been like this, even when I was little I would constantly lucid dream.

Odd I don't remember dmt experience better
 
You can work on this by applying it to day to day life like affirmations, using phrases like "I have total recall", "I have perfect memory" ect.. and once this builds up eventually it will become a (Knowing). Study the Law of Attraction.

Healthy diet and lifestyle helps a lot and before going into the experience speak to self and substance that you will remember everything you need to remember when you come back.

Read other peoples trip reports, they help remind you of your own experience.
If you have LSD, that helped me remember my DMT trips so much better if not weed can help too or other psyches but for me personally LSD gives the clearest reward. Hope this helps
 
One(1) moar thing One(1) might want to look at is: using complex psychedelic scents as a metaphorical file-association-path-perma-RAM-memory. The moar matured, complex and deep the scent is, the moar storage power it has. Such as (aged) oudh (aloeswood)...etc.

Can try start with something loike majmua (gathering) its the scent of moist earth, khus root, pandanus and kadampa attars.

Careful with unattended open flame, incense, embers, charcoal...while tripping !

T.Harper said:
..smell is the most direct perceptual path that allows awareness into the deepest knowingness of the spacial bodies, encoding and decoding directly
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