DMT vaporizer options

[reun]

Hi all!

I'm preparing for my first DMT extraction. I have just about everything I need, except for a vape cartridge. Sadly, they are illegal in Australia, but I may be able to source one soon.

This entire situation made me re-evaluate the entire ingestion process. My original plan was to combine freebase DMT with PG and use it in a vape cartridge, but I also wanted to consider some alternatives. Note that ideally I would like to have the option to smoke 2 forms of DMT: pure crystals (which I may mix with PG and/or VG if needed) and DMT fumarate salts, just in case I have trouble finding the right solvent in the future (I have one now, but sourcing it was very difficult).

From what I understand, dry herb vaporizers are generally not recommended, however, I've also seen reports from people saying that they've successfully used some vaporizers. I'd love to understand more about it. I have access to vaporizers listed here and I was wondering if any of them could be appropriate. Some examples:

• Arizer Extreme Q Desk Vaporizer (not sure about this one)
• XMAX V3 Pro Vaporizer (specifically lists dry herbs and concentrates)
• Arizer Air SE (has a ceramic heating element)

I suppose this choice should consider:

• Safety (e.g. handling the device as you lose cognitive abilities)
• Dosage (e.g. whiteout risks)
• Versatility (e.g. if I have a cartridge with a 1:2 mixture, then I'm sort of committed to that mix, but if I have freebase, then it's easier to work with)
• Handling multiple DMT forms (freebase and fumarate)
• Longevity (e.g. cartridges are not meant to be durable, but perhaps these vapes might)

Would love to hear your feedback!

Thank you

 

[Animistic]

I have the Geekvape legend 3 for sub ohm. I got it since Australia restricted vape products, you just need to register for the vape "pharmacies". Ridiculous but still got it fine. You can use tanks or emesh, you'd have to get emesh stuff from a certain Asian ebay, usually sold as different things like car parts etc.

I would get an RTA if going with juice, much easier to make good quality coils that last and are appropriate although tricky in Aus ATM but you can definitely find them on the above mentioned site.

 

[reun]

I have the Geekvape legend 3 for sub ohm. I got it since Australia restricted vape products, you just need to register for the vape "pharmacies". Ridiculous but still got it fine. You can use tanks or emesh, you'd have to get emesh stuff from a certain Asian ebay, usually sold as different things like car parts etc.

I would get an RTA if going with juice, much easier to make good quality coils that last and are appropriate although tricky in Aus ATM but you can definitely find them on the above mentioned site.

Thanks for sharing!

Apologies, I'm new to all of this, so I have a few questions based on your response.

1. I've found Geekvape Aegis Legend 3 here (Cheap Vapes AU), so it looks like I may be able to procure it. Would you recommend it? Is that a possible replacement for a vape cartridge + 510 thread battery combo? Also, I've looked into sub-ohm vaping and I don't really understand it, so if you think this part is important, I'd appreciate if you could expand on it!
2. Based on my limited research into vape pharmacies, I got the impression that if I had medical cannabis prescribed to me by a doctor, then I would be able to get pre-filled cartridges, but that's not what I'm after. I didn't think there was a way to circumnavigate this system, but if you've found one, I'd appreciate it if you could share

Thanks again

 

[Animistic]

Thanks for sharing!

Apologies, I'm new to all of this, so I have a few questions based on your response.

1. I've found Geekvape Aegis Legend 3 here (Cheap Vapes AU), so it looks like I may be able to procure it. Would you recommend it? Is that a possible replacement for a vape cartridge + 510 thread battery combo? Also, I've looked into sub-ohm vaping and I don't really understand it, so if you think this part is important, I'd appreciate if you could expand on it!
2. Based on my limited research into vape pharmacies, I got the impression that if I had medical cannabis prescribed to me by a doctor, then I would be able to get pre-filled cartridges, but that's not what I'm after. I didn't think there was a way to circumnavigate this system, but if you've found one, I'd appreciate it if you could share

Thanks again

Careful with websites like that. A lot of them are from before vapes became illegal so I would be careful giving money to them. I got it by signing up to a pharmacy shop and don't have any prescription for nic or THC vaping. You will not be able to source the RTA or RDA tanks on them though, that's where AliExpress comes in handy.

Id recommend perhaps trying the legend or solo V5. Honestly I don't think it's necessary to go with legend, 2 batteries vs one with solo. More likely for issues to arise. Hmmmm I haven't tried using it with my carts. You would maybe be able to, just need to get the settings correct so you're vaping at the right wattage for the cart. It definitely has a 510 screw.

 

[windyshaman]

See my post about Pulsar Proshift - might find it useful. At this point on my DMT journey - I fully admit that my setup might not be perfect, but my relationship with DMT has evolved to a level - where it doesn't really matter. Besides, I've got 2x of these Pulsars... fully-loaded - that's a sh@t load of spice to handle, yet alone when I'm throwing some harmalas into the mix.

But If I had to pick one out of your list, I'd probably give either of the portables a shot. Both seem to have a decent enough, adjustable - temperature range.

 

[reun]

Careful with websites like that. A lot of them are from before vapes became illegal so I would be careful giving money to them. I got it by signing up to a pharmacy shop and don't have any prescription for nic or THC vaping. You will not be able to source the RTA or RDA tanks on them though, that's where AliExpress comes in handy.

Id recommend perhaps trying the legend or solo V5. Honestly I don't think it's necessary to go with legend, 2 batteries vs one with solo. More likely for issues to arise. Hmmmm I haven't tried using it with my carts. You would maybe be able to, just need to get the settings correct so you're vaping at the right wattage for the cart. It definitely has a 510 screw.

From what I understand, there are some shops that still have stock from the times vapes were legal and they are selling it even when they are not supposed to. But I believe as a buyer, the worst thing that can happen is that you just won't get what you order, but you won't get into any legal trouble for this.

I just looked into the pharmacy situation, and it looks like there are pharmacies that do supply vaping goods without a prescription. As someone who has never smoked, I'm not even sure what to ask them! Would I just tell them that I'm trying to quit smoking and I want to try nicotine vapes? What could they sell to me? A vape battery with a pre-loaded cartridge? I don't need pre-loaded cartridges though. Would they sell empty cartridges to me? If so, what would I tell them to get those cartridges? About AliExpress: I understand it would be arriving from overseas, but would it not get seized at the border? If not, then I might as well skip the pharmacy altogether and get everything from AliExpress. Somehow this entire situation is still not making a lot of sense in my head :/

 

[Animistic]

I just looked into the pharmacy situation, and it looks like there are pharmacies that do supply vaping goods without a prescription. As someone who has never smoked, I'm not even sure what to ask them! Would I just tell them that I'm trying to quit smoking and I want to try nicotine vapes? What could they sell to me? A vape battery with a pre-loaded cartridge? I don't need pre-loaded cartridges though. Would they sell empty cartridges to me? If so, what would I tell them to get those cartridges? About AliExpress: I understand it would be arriving from overseas, but would it not get seized at the border? If not, then I might as well skip the pharmacy altogether and get everything from AliExpress. Somehow this entire situation is still not making a lot of sense in my head :/

I didn't need to say anything from memory. I just bought the vape that came with a tank and that's it. I already had pg and VG here though.

I'd say a disassembled RTA/RDA is less likely to raise alarms than a whole vape and I don't want to outright advocate for importing contraband. It's a PITA, the other solution is to get some next time you go overseas and come back into the country with them, no questions asked. Such hypocrisy.

 

[truth bum]

I tried the Arizer Extreme Q but it did not work well for me at all. I played with all the variables but could not get it to work properly.

 

[windyshaman]

I tried the Arizer Extreme Q but it did not work well for me at all. I played with all the variables but could not get it to work properly.

I've tried a desktop Arizer at one point as well, never manged to get anything worthwhile from it and I've really tried. Straight, bagging, different temperatures, different layering setups - never got to a point where it was comparable to my portable dry herbs setup.