DMT was ineffective on my Uncle

[Reynolds47]

I witnessed the strangest thing last night. My Uncle, cousin, and I sat together to smoke DMT for their first times. It was intended to be a very spiritual, educational experience and we were all quite excited for the experience.

My cousin had maybe 2 large inhalations then fell onto the floor, holding his face laughing and smiling, traveling through who knows what. I had my share and enjoyed my experience.

But my Uncle received no gifts from the molecule, nothing more than a body tingle. And this was after more than 6 inhalations of quantifiable size. He even held it in for as long as he could.

What might be the cause for this? I am so confused. Never have I seen that happen. Would his set be powerful enough to ruin the trip?

Your help in this will be much appreciated everybody. We really want to know, it was intended for a healing experience but ended going down the other road.

 

[Psyren]

has he used a psychedelic before?

 

[Reynolds47]

He has a strong history with LSD and just about everything else, but that was like 15 years ago. He smokes marijuana medicinally everyday, and shroomed not to long ago, but he wasn't even high when he tripped. Very strange.

 

[sidefx]

There is a similar post an older one like this.

In the spirit molecule studies they documented that 4% of patients were little to not effected by the DMT.

In my six years of partaking i have given DMT to one friend who had little effect, strange.
He smoked it in front of me perfect, as i instructed.

Also Terrence Mckenna had similar results, in his life time of studies.

In my friends case i put it down to the LACK of Psychedelic use in his family history, as there was none, even though he smoked weed regularly and had dabbled in a little mushrooms and LSD and speed.

But i do not know?

 

[Reynolds47]

Would it be possible to up the dose and have it work? or method of ingestion?

We were thinking injecting with a truly heroic dose to see if that will work. Any thoughts?

and thanks for your feedback

 

[sidefx]

I would try upping the dose, yes.
And maybe technique, i use a water bong every time the last six years all my mates do always works, well once it did not and i did not bother wasting more on him that day and do not see him any more.

Water bong pack bong with weed or i like mint leaves 'DRY' and place crystal on top and another sprinkle of leaves.
Smoke Slow and Not burning it hard, Slow rip it in one hit, close eyes and hold it in for as long as possible, at least 10 seconds, then blow out and see if your eyes are open or shut.
The closed eyes and laying down* helps breakthrough easily.


*****I WILL SAY THIS BEFORE OTHERS DO AND THIS GETS OUT OF HAND TRUST ME, INJECTING DMT IS VERY DANGEROUS, ONE SHOULD ONLY TRY THIS IF THEY HAVE A MEDICALLY TRAINED FRIEND AND THEY HAVE VERY PURE DMT, DMT IN THE SPIRIT MOLECULE WAS 99.8% PURE!!!

About injecting a heroic dose that was a joke wasn't it.
Do never go from standard dose to heroic dose with anything bro, at least you will have a very bad trip.

DANGER, DANGER WILL ROBINSON.
Serious though bro

CLICK SEARCH AND TYPE IN, Injecting DMT, INTO HEADERS

Check this topic about injecting DMT, lots of discussion. ok bro.


do you know someone that has though, i would be interested.

 

[gibran2]

What might be the cause for this? I am so confused. Never have I seen that happen. Would his set be powerful enough to ruin the trip?

Your help in this will be much appreciated everybody. We really want to know, it was intended for a healing experience but ended going down the other road.

You don’t mention the smoking device and technique used, but if you need more than one or two inhalations, you’re probably doing something wrong.

You also don’t mention the size of each dose in milligrams, so it’s hard to say what happened.

 

[cosmic butterfly]

it does say in the spirit molecule about 4% not affected,but than again im a little sceptical about it. I mean i cant imagine someone smoking 100mg properly and nothing happening. tolerance is another thing, i see big differences in many ppl. many times ive smoked with little to no affect as well as friends, but this has always due to dosage or more so flaws in technique. It can be hard to get it down in the beginning but you should try with him again. first thing relaxx, have him lay down, tensions can really hold a trip back so i like to meditate before launch, which always allows me to go deeper. as others said a good smoking device is essential, if u can get glass pipes like gvg, the machine.., if not a bong with the spice sandwiched in some herbs is good, up the dosage, as Terence once said take the third toke loooong and slowww, i recommend a good 10 seconds for each of the hits. chuppaaa
post back with results

 

[ntwhtyouknw]

I'm not sure if DMT would act the same as some other substances but I know my first time smoking weed and also with mushrrooms they produced no effect.(imagine my response to when they did work considering at this point I thought it was all hype.)

 

[Volvox]

I also, (very recently actually) had an incident where I had been using the same dosage, method and substance but nothing happened one day, where the previous day it had sent me into space. This happened 2 out of 5 times actually on different days. I started to suspect something in my diet. Namely in my preferences of staying awake. Its not the caffeine I have found. But I have cut out red bull, ginseng and ginkgo for now. So far, haven't had another blank incidence were I have gotten no-buzz from a massive hit.

And I also have a very hi tolerances to the spice. It sucks. I have to take between 70-100 mg's to get a slight buzz. That is a rather uncomfortable amount to inhale.

 

[sidefx]

A friend who had taken Ayahuasca for fifteen years and also extracted DMT from many types of plants told me

that he would go out and take from a plant and it would have DMT content, and he then would go back later to that same plant and it would have nothing.

 

[Deliria_Oilbird]

ot but you have a really cool family!

 

[nen888]

I witnessed the strangest thing last night. My Uncle, cousin, and I sat together to smoke DMT for their first times. It was intended to be a very spiritual, educational experience and we were all quite excited for the experience.

My cousin had maybe 2 large inhalations then fell onto the floor, holding his face laughing and smiling, traveling through who knows what. I had my share and enjoyed my experience.

But my Uncle received no gifts from the molecule, nothing more than a body tingle. And this was after more than 6 inhalations of quantifiable size. He even held it in for as long as he could.

What might be the cause for this? I am so confused. Never have I seen that happen. Would his set be powerful enough to ruin the trip?

Your help in this will be much appreciated everybody. We really want to know, it was intended for a healing experience but ended going down the other road.

..sometimes people can resist it with mental energy, but it is known that a small percentage of people are barely affected by DMT..i've also known a salvia 'hard-head' who smoked pure salvinorin and got nothing..it may be due to certain enzymatic genes being slightly different..

also, how long and deeply the vapor is held in the lungs makes a big difference to level of effects..to be sure of strong effects, all of the dose needs to be smoked in 1 or 2 inhalations..this can take practice..

..perhaps it just wasn't the right time for him (or he subconsciously believed this) and he could try it again, knowing at least that nothing 'terrible' will happen..
.

 

[Reynolds47]

Thanks all!

He does drink a ton of energy drinks, so maybe that might have a small effect. The dose was only around 40-50mg, so that definitely will go up. He has body sensation, and he said he almost launched, so i suspect it is psychological.

I will try higher dose the next opportunity we have. He said he was calm, willing, and excited. In no way does he fear DMT, he yearns for it and welcomes it as a healing tool. Instead of traveling to an alternate world and experiencing ego-death, he was disappointed.

This will work, and thanks guys for the help. Ill make sure he doesnt have anything in his system at the time of consumption that could potentially dull the effects, have him lay down, ingest waaaay more out of a better device than a $4 crack pipe, and make sure his set and setting are ample for launch.

Ill report back in some time to tell of the success or failure.

 

[Reynolds47]

ot but you have a really cool family!

Why yes, yes I do haha. Love em all

 

[tele]

The dose was only around 40-50mg

Here you see how important vaporization technique is.
For me I can achieve breakthrough even with 19mg sometimes, taken in single inhalation from the glass vaporgenie.
It's possible even to have mild effects from 100mg with poor vaping device. So do research here on vaporization technique before you (possibly) dissapoint your uncle again(no offense).

 

[Psyren]

the first time i did lsd, dmt, psilocybin i felt it, i dont get it. You hear these stories of people doing stuff and getting no effect. I can kind of relate to cannabis but the first time i did that it was crap and i didnt know how to smoke.

 

[endlessness]

I bet its the smoking method, at least for the most part, though other factors mentioned before can also be related

FAQ - DMT Frequently Asked Questions and Troubleshooting Guide - DMT-Nexus Wiki

wiki.dmt-nexus.me

 

[sidefx]

First two or three times smoking Canaweed i had no effect.

First time i tried LSD was half a tab, No effect.

First time on mushrooms i entered hysterical laughing hard core laughing with my whole body for like a solid hour, tears and a red face it was awesome, ahahaaa.

Second time on LSD whole tab about 30 minutes hysterical laughing lol.

Dose counts a lot but i think there are a lot of factors we do not know for sure.