Dmt while on peak of lsd

[Gratefulhead]

Hello fellow nexians, this is my first post! I have been reading the forum for some time but recently decided to make an account. Anyway my question is have any of you had experience with dmt while peaking on lsd? I recently acquired a gram of dmt and I have two tabs of some nice WoW blotter and was thinking about trying them out together next weekend if it feels right. I have a little bit of experience with dmt alone (two sub breakthrough) and lots of experience with lsd. I find that I have lots of anxiety if I am about to smoke sober but while tripping it just feels right. Any opinions are appreciated! :d

 

[DmnStr8]

I have experienced LSDMT on several occasions and always enjoyed it.

When I ingested the DMT I was surprised to find that I felt suddenly sober in mind like I had never taken LSD. It was just the DMT experience. The trip was no more weird or unusual than from DMT alone.

When I came out of the DMT trip I was instantly back to the LSD trip. The sensation was very odd and to be honest it felt great to me. I laughed and laughed. I felt glad that the experience was a good one. I felt glad that I had the courage to jump in and try it. I was able to recall much of what I had experienced.

I have repeated the same combo a few times since. I find that my pre-flight fears and jitters are next to non-existent for the combo now. Very relaxed and very fulfilling for me. I always feel great for days afterward.

All in all I recommend it. Some trepidation is certainly normal. A healthy respect for an odd journey is a good thing. Prepare and enjoy!

Please report back if you do indeed decide to try the combo!


P.S. I wrote down everything from the trip mentioned above in a notebook. If your interested I could certainly share that info.

 

[LysergicBliss]

DMT at the peak of an LSD experience is one of my favorite combos. IME, the effects are a little different than those of DMT alone.

I find that I don't go quite as deep into the DMT space as I would sober (or maybe the transition is just easier since I'm already on a psychedelic), but the effects last a bit longer and there is a bit more lucidness to the experience. Also I don't get the pre-trip anxiety I normally get when I smoke DMT sober.

The last time I did it I experienced complete ego death as my vision was enveloped in fractals until there was only beautiful white-ness left. It was very intense but also very blissful (and a tad bit scary). As I came back I could start seeing the room around me again, but it was covered with ancient hieroglyphs and beaded jewels which slowly faded away.

 

[Gone-and-Back]

LSDMT is one of my favorite combinations so far. If I have dmt while on lsd, it's getting smoked. End of story. It's that good.

It's a lot more mellow then the dmt experience on its own, as stated before. I feel no anxiety about the dmt if I'm already tripping on the acid. It's almost seamless, the transition from the lsd state into hyperspace. You also don't need as large of a dose of the dmt, probably because of the fact that your already half way there due to the acid.

I would recommend doing it on the peak, and also on the come down. When smoked on the come down, it will kick things back into high gear and gives the most euphoric and peaceful feeling I have ever experienced. It's almost equivalent to the feelings of bliss and happiness that hit on mescaline trips. It's beautiful.

Start small with the dmt addition, and build up as you go. You don't want to overshoot it the first time and be put off the combination for good after that. I'd say start with half your normal dmt dose and scale it up from there. You will always be able to take another larger dose once the initial one wears off.

 

[goldygreen22]

This is my first post as well, but I agree with all of you, it is definitely a smoother, more lucid breakthrough and experience. Do any of you think that they are meant to be used together, or in general dmt is designed to be used with another substance like lsd or psilocybin? Here is the difference between sober dmt use and lsd+dmt use from my perspective(while on the peak of lsd):
Sober dmt: After smoking, and breaking through on just dmt, I find that my external environment is almost always completely shut out. I go to another place, and only come back to my body and the physical world after the trip is over. Tl;dr: My eyes almost always stay closed.
Lsd and dmt combination: The same external shut-out does happen, and I can go somewhere else, but very often I am able to open my eyes and have the experience super-imposed on my physical environment. I won't go into detail regarding any of the things I actually see, I will say if you ask, but not only do I predominantly see things with eyes open, I am often able to physically interact with what I see.(entities, etc.) The trip seems to "go real".

To me, this difference isn't an end in itself. I feel like there is something more to be discovered while in this state of mind. Any thoughts?

 

[Gratefulhead]

Thanks for all the opinions everyone, I will be sure to write a report when I try it. It sounds pretty interesting from how goldygreen22 decribed it, I am excited to see for myself how it is for me.

Hopefully, I can break through this time. I haven't my other two times due to poor vaping technique. The first time I used the sandwich tech with 25mg but with long cut tobacco and it burned all wonky so it burned the spice plus the nicotine was very harsh from a bong. For the second time (45mg) I used my dab rig with a titanium nail which worked quite a bit better but I believe the nail was far too hot and burned the spice except this time it was very intense for about a minute then I came down most of the way. I recently purchased an enail (one of the electonic nails that you can set the temp for) so it is a guaranteed vaporization if I set it to the correct temp which I read is between 400 F - 475 F. I think I will go for around a 20mg dose does that seem reasonable or should I go lower?

If you wouldn't mind typing it up, I would love to hear your report of your experience DmnStr8, I always love reading trip reports.

 

[DmnStr8]

Thanks for all the opinions everyone, I will be sure to write a report when I try it. It sounds pretty interesting from how goldygreen22 decribed it, I am excited to see for myself how it is for me.

Hopefully, I can break through this time. I haven't my other two times due to poor vaping technique. The first time I used the sandwich tech with 25mg but with long cut tobacco and it burned all wonky so it burned the spice plus the nicotine was very harsh from a bong. For the second time (45mg) I used my dab rig with a titanium nail which worked quite a bit better but I believe the nail was far too hot and burned the spice except this time it was very intense for about a minute then I came down most of the way. I recently purchased an enail (one of the electonic nails that you can set the temp for) so it is a guaranteed vaporization if I set it to the correct temp which I read is between 400 F - 475 F. I think I will go for around a 20mg dose does that seem reasonable or should I go lower?

If you wouldn't mind typing it up, I would love to hear your report of your experience DmnStr8, I always love reading trip reports.

Tobacco? Try some other smoking herbs or marijuana for the sandwich. Maybe make some enhanced herb. I recommend the GVG for vaping. 20mg sounds fine to start.

 

[endlessness]

My experience is quite different than most here.. I didn't like this combo to be honest.

I mean, sure it was beautiful and all, but I felt like the LSD acted as an anchor and didn't let me breakthrough.. It was a sort of magnetism holding the DMT trip so it couldn't expand consciousness or something.

I tried 3 times in different occasions, and the 3 were similar, so I decided to stop trying... But yeah , hopefully if you try it, it will be good for you

I much prefered mushrooms+dmt, for me that matched soooo perfectly an amazing synergy.

 

[Gratefulhead]

Thanks for the tip but I've learned my lesson with the tobacco, it was pretty rechid. It was all I had at the time to use so I figured it wouldn't be that bad. I have picked up some mullein also which seems like it will be more pleasant. I am going to get a gvg in the near future the enail is just what I have a the moment, I have read lots of reports of this method being very effective.

I have not tried shrooms yet but I would definitely like to, just have not been presented with the opportunity. When I do I will probably try dmt + shrooms too!

 

[Swarupa]

I like to vape some DMT a little later in the trip, once the visuals have dropped off and the path has been cleared... the thought doesn't even cross my mind during the peak! I've found that the DMT gradually takes over from the LSD making the come-up appear slowed down, although i haven't tried it myself, i'd imagine it wouldn't as easily overpower the LSD during the peak. I remember Nick Sands recommended the 10th hour which could make for a nice ending.

 

[DmnStr8]

If you wouldn't mind typing it up, I would love to hear your report of your experience DmnStr8, I always love reading trip reports.

I am not going to write a trip report but simply write verbatim what I wrote down after the trip. Keep in mind that I was on LSD when I wrote this. lol

Singularity? Universal singularity? Transcendence into this singularity? Everything is contained within this singularity at different vibrations and frequency.

I lose myself more and more. Machinery walls are alive. I see floral patterns and what looks like some sort of gate. The gate keeps getting closer and closer. When I arrive at the gate my eyes are forced open. I see myself get up and walk around. My eyes open and I am still sitting in the same place. I never moved. It is like my eyes open over and over but remain shut. I was between worlds. I see that gate again. Everything is distorted. Disorientated. I always feel somehow constrained to my body. Learning and remembering how to breathe again. Weird feeling. Feels like my brain has to adjust to gravity again.

I feel like I am close to being shown something. This is not the first time with this feeling. I think "SHOW ME!". I am open. This is when I lost myself. Feels like death. But I am not gone. Death of the ego? The impermanent self? I dunno??
There are no articulations. Stop trying to use language.

Love is no word for salvation. Look no longer to words for your meaning. You are much more than you can ever conceive. You are the machinery. You are the awareness. You are everything! Feels like I am being observed. No paranoia. Just a sense that I am not alone. I feel love and gratitude for what I am doing here. These words just fail. Such a strong feeling. It's something more. Something amazing! It's amazing!

Awareness=everything
You=awareness of everything

Prupose - To be - To exist - I AM

We all add to the uniqueness and ultimate awareness. We are important and invaluable. We created this together.

Existance is eternal. Awareness is eternal. We are eternal.

And at the very end I wrote in scribble. "F(*K I am tripping!" LMAO!

Make of it what you will. It's just the ramblings of myself after the first time using DMT on LSD. I should write things down more often. I found that when I was reading these words again that my memory jumped back into that space relatively easily. I could almost feel what I was feeling in the moment. I was awestruck, amazed, and confounded. Good times! LOL

 

[3rdI]

it can go either way.

smaolking at the peak is epic, if its a good journey, as when you come back you get to bask in the glory while still beautifully effected by the acid. however when the journey leaves you in a mess you have to deal with the aftermath while still pickled on acid.

i have had both happen to me, the latter made it kind of tricky to keep it together when the dmt experience was over. My meditation practise paid off like never before and without it i would have been in a much worse place.

this is when smoalking a full dose, if you just roll some magic up in a joint you will be fine.