Does anyone add freebase DMT to Changa?

[FractalShaman]

SWIM is keen on making his first Changa concoction and was thinking a Changa mix of:
Acacia
Caapi (x10) enhanced leaf
Chaliponga
Harmala extract
Mimosa
Salvia (strongest extract SWIM can find)
Cannabis (SWIM just loves weed and reckons it will add to the taste and experience)

PLUS do folks add freebase DMT to their changa mix? If so how? Since SWIM heard that burning DMT with a flame kills the effect. If there is a way for SWIM to add freebas DMT to changa im sure SWIM would be VERY keen on doing so.

Any and All suggestions on this mix would be appreciated by SWIM.
Like….something SWIM would add(please only comment on adding for increasing experience NOT taste).

Or something SWIM doesn’t need or is duplicating with another ingredient (which SWIM suspects he may be doing)

Thanks for your time.8) x

 

[hyperspacing]

Lol u need to read the changa forum. Changa is maoi+ herbs+freebase dmt. It infuses into the herbs wich helps protect it from being destroyed.

 

[hyperspacing]

Read this thread CLICK HERE

Each plant effects the experience in its own way. Before making a blend with a lot offf diffrent ingredients try each one individually. Make small batches and test it out. A 1:1 ratio of plant:spice is optimum. I think you will find the more simple the blend the cleaner the experience.

Ps. Salvia extracts may be asking for an ass kicking. Plain salvia leaf is the way to go IMO.

 

[BananaForeskin]

Ps. Salvia extracts may be asking for an ass kicking. Plain salvia leaf is the way to go IMO.

This is a good point, as is the rest of hyperspacing's post. I would be a little scared to smoke that blend once the appropriate amount of freebase had been put into it... them's powerful magicks you be workin' with.

Although, to tell the truth, that would be a really ridiculous blend to smoke by itself (sans DMT). It wouldn't be changa, but it would be quite the smoking blend. Salvia extracts+weed alone can cause total chaos (and not necessarily good chaos).

If you decide to make it changa by enhancing it with some spice, you might also want to take out the mimosa and the acacia. Whatever they may add to a blend (besides negligible DMT content) is unknown (to my knowledge), and there's a fair chance they'd just be adding dead weight (and harsh smoke) to your blend, which needs no filler; will be better without filler.

 

[The_Shaman]

If what your asking is, does anyone add MORE spice to the mix once they already have a blend of changa (that has fused spiced with B. Caapi and other herbs), my answer is YES, Swim does.

Swim sprinkles a bit of magic in between layers of changa and uses the Vapor genie. so.. NO flame.

To Swim, It is just that much more beautiful a journey, it def kicks it up a notch ,.. so swim says

 

[SnozzleBerry]

If what your asking is, does anyone add MORE spice to the mix once they already have a blend of changa (that has fused spiced with B. Caapi and other herbs), my answer is YES, Swim does.

Swim sprinkles a bit of magic in between layers of changa and uses the Vapor genie. so.. NO flame.

To Swim, It is just that much more beautiful a journey, it def kicks it up a notch ,.. so swim says

Yea, I'll do this as well when I want to have a faster come up than changa by itself provides. I find that the slow comeup on changa can be one of the most disorienting things about it in that it can be hard to figure out what exactly is going on. Sometimes a little freebase spice sprinkled on top can help catapult you "out there" and then you wind up sort of "immediately" immersed in a changa experience.

 

[FractalShaman]

Ps. Salvia extracts may be asking for an ass kicking. Plain salvia leaf is the way to go IMO.

This is a good point, as is the rest of hyperspacing's post. I would be a little scared to smoke that blend once the appropriate amount of freebase had been put into it... them's powerful magicks you be workin' with.

Although, to tell the truth, that would be a really ridiculous blend to smoke by itself (sans DMT). It wouldn't be changa, but it would be quite the smoking blend. Salvia extracts+weed alone can cause total chaos (and not necessarily good chaos).

If you decide to make it changa by enhancing it with some spice, you might also want to take out the mimosa and the acacia. Whatever they may add to a blend (besides negligible DMT content) is unknown (to my knowledge), and there's a fair chance they'd just be adding dead weight (and harsh smoke) to your blend, which needs no filler; will be better without filler.

I did think a few of those ingredients would be redundant. Thanks. But SWIM will include the weed and Salvia. SWIM is rather hardcore(not trying to blow SWIMS trumpet) but SWIM has been in such a mundane mind state the last 18months that radical is definitely better for SWIM. Whatever the consequences may be :shock:

 

[FractalShaman]

If what your asking is, does anyone add MORE spice to the mix once they already have a blend of changa (that has fused spiced with B. Caapi and other herbs), my answer is YES, Swim does.

Swim sprinkles a bit of magic in between layers of changa and uses the Vapor genie. so.. NO flame.

To Swim, It is just that much more beautiful a journey, it def kicks it up a notch ,.. so swim says

I have noticed people raving about Vapour Genies, i think SWIM will invest in one. Even though it has no flame would it still burn such things as weed or salvia as effective as a bong would?

 

[SnozzleBerry]

If what your asking is, does anyone add MORE spice to the mix once they already have a blend of changa (that has fused spiced with B. Caapi and other herbs), my answer is YES, Swim does.

Swim sprinkles a bit of magic in between layers of changa and uses the Vapor genie. so.. NO flame.

To Swim, It is just that much more beautiful a journey, it def kicks it up a notch ,.. so swim says

I have noticed people raving about Vapour Genies, i think SWIM will invest in one. Even though it has no flame would it still burn such things as weed or salvia as effective as a bong would?

No, it doesn't burn anything, it vaporizes them and yes, it does so very effectively. I haven't done salvia, but from what I hear, the temp in the GVG will not be high enough to satisfactorily consume your product. From what I hear, a bong is still the best method for salvia. The GVG works amazing for weed, spice and other herbs though.

 

[gammagore]

Please report back if you do go ahead and make this mix with the salvia extract.

And no need to add the mimosa and acacia and very very carefull on how much salvia you add in there, plain leaves are good, but pls be carefull with the xtract.

 

[The_Shaman]

and just to clarify, you obviously use a lighter to light the genie just like any other pipe, however there is no direct contact with the flame to the bowl, your heating a ceramic (?) element instead that heats the bowl.
I believe You CAN burn your goods if you torch it hard and hold the lighter on too long and cook the crap out of the ceramic, but you would have to be a total dee duh deee to do such a thing.

 

[gammagore]

In strolls the dee duh deee

Ye ive combusted the leaf in the bowl before, and only with a bic lighter, never with the torch, maybe its just cos ive learnt how to use it. But ye, you gotta give it alot of flame. These days il still get the ceramic filter red hot, but back away big time after a second or 2.

Also to mention here, flint lighters will cause "soot"(hope I spelt it correct) to gather on the ceramic bit if you flame it. Also there is rare earth metal in there, I see on the VG site they advise against using a flint.

 

[The_Shaman]

Lol Gamma, obviously I too dee duh deed'd because how would I know about burning the goods otherwise

thanks for the info on the flint , I use em all the time, now I will upgrade and get a nice torch- thanks

 

[FractalShaman]

Wicked guys great info.....

I have a few things to do first but i will report back once i have done this hardcore mix.

ps I will push the limit as far as my mind will allow...CANT WAIT

Thanks for the time

 

[Bill Cipher]

ps I will push the limit as far as my mind will allow...CANT WAIT

Slow your roll, soldier. We don't give extra points for hubris or for blowing gaskets.

 

[FractalShaman]

Trust me friend it not for points.

I live in a world of pretentiousness and im sick of the people who are in my life……ITS NOW OR NEVER FOR ME

But thats good advice.

Thanks 8)

 

[hyperspacing]

Just remember too far in this world just means you won't remember it and you'll come to your senses scared out of your mind. (Hopefully you havent soiled yourself at this point)

But hey if you got plenty of extra clean underwear go for it.

 

[electrolunchbox]

I live in a world of pretentiousness and im sick of the people who are in my life……ITS NOW OR NEVER FOR ME

But thats good advice.

Thanks 8)

I'm sorry friend I think your crazy I would almost never somke Salvia ever again. I never likes the feeling of being bent over my self over and over again.
also if your so sick of every one in your life just alpha jack out of here! Jimi hendrix did it and they called it an overdose ha!

 

[d*l*b]

I live in a world of pretentiousness and im sick of the people who are in my life……ITS NOW OR NEVER FOR ME

So what do you hope to achieve with changa? Will it change the pretentiousness you see or magically delete those around you?

 

[FractalShaman]

In response to D*L*B

No. You see life is showing me A lot. A wise man once said that in order to make progress a person may not know what to do, but can know exactly what NOT to do to aid his progress. When these people are around its has served as a reminder for the last 5years of HOW NOT TO BE.

Totally devoid of self

Ignorant and self obsessed

Extremely materialistic without the means of acquiring the wealth they desire

Happy Trying to be big fish in a fucking goldfish bowl(not even a pond)

Etc etc

Im not advocating that any substance will “fix” any issues or problems that I have. However I do believe by glimpsing what is out there it can help bring balance to the parts of me that relates to all the negative traits I mentioned above(and the rest). Plus I can sense that our world is plagued with inconsistencies throughout and we are being guided down a path for the agenda of others(sorry for conspiracy mongering) but its true.

I think 99% of people on this site can relate to that last point, so I want to take the next step in my conscious development rather than continue to subscribe to a world that replaces truth with lies and love with hate.

Im not explaining myself to the fullest but I hope you get where im coming from a bit more. And if not, that’s ok to.

Thanks for your time. 8)